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drazz wrote:
That's a big bear to carry a Troll, especially if its Borka.

I just hope that does not mean Brun lost Lug.

It's a Borka Bearer (groan all you want!)

Would be cute if the Keg Bearer got a cub to ride behind it.

 AgeOfEgos wrote:

drazz wrote:
That's a big bear to carry a Troll, especially if its Borka.

I just hope that does not mean Brun lost Lug.

It's a Borka Bearer (groan all you want!)

Would be cute if the Keg Bearer got a cub to ride behind it.

I'd buy the hell out of that.

 plastictrees wrote:
I like to think that it's a new bear every single battle that Borka drunkenly steals....from a bear store? I'm not super clear on how Troll society works.

He just leaves apples out every night, just in case. If there is a battle the next day, he suddenly mounts the unsuspecting bear and rides him to it.

Images of the upcoming lesser warlocks and Imperatus











Oooh, the Circle lesser looks amazing, and the Skorne lesser has a wonderful dynamic look. I think that circle model in particular will be a brilliant painting piece, just lots of very nice detail. The Legion model (just a solo apparently - legion already have a lesser warlock) looks nice, but probably not as standout as the other two.

The Trollbloods caster... weapons look awesome, pose has potential, but the arm being under the huge chin makes him look a bit awkward - a little like he's strangling himself. Probably could be corrected with a little green stuff, and a few millimeters change for the arm angle.

Those new lessers certainly look nice!

I agree with the weird Trollblood pose needing some tweaking. Hopefully that all isn't cast as one piece.

The Skorne lesser is fantastic! I'm really loving the look of it (and the sword!)

As for the Troll lesser, I think it looks pretty standard. They just have big chins and big arms, hence the look.

That Skorne lesser is pretty great looking. The Circle on is nice, though perhaps a little busy. Which is odd, usually I find Skorne to be the faction more overwhelming to the eye. Probably just the combo of paint, light, glass case and photo.

Troll one looks ok. The legion solo looks a little static to me, but not bad. Imperatus is pretty cool looking, even though I normally don't like the Retribution aesthetic.

The Skorne lesser is probably one of the best models I've seen from Privateer Press. The motion, simplicity and proportions look very good (other than the big honkin sword but a know).

Word is that the troll lesser lock has Hotshot as a spell. That should be a good time with all those spitty troll lights! I wouldn't be surprised to see the slag troll one shotting Cryx arc nodes.

I would love to see that as the new standard in Skorne sculpting. Excellent pose and nicely sculpted.

The Circle girl looks good but I think the rather dark paint scheme doesn't do her any favours.

For those of you with Warroom, many of the new models in the Hordes book are now there. Such as Rotterhorn, Moonhound, etc.

Una will make you a sad panda if you play Circle :(

 Wehrkind wrote:
Una will make you a sad panda if you play Circle :(

Not sure why. The griffins are pretty neat, and she makes them a hell of a lot more focus efficient (not to mention lets them fully take advantage of flight).

Tyrant Zaadesh and a bunch of Reptile Hounds will be hilarious though.

Geez that Legion solo is one heck of a fighty solo for 3 pts

 Laughing Man wrote:

 Wehrkind wrote:
Una will make you a sad panda if you play Circle :(

Not sure why. The griffins are pretty neat, and she makes them a hell of a lot more focus efficient (not to mention lets them fully take advantage of flight).

Tyrant Zaadesh and a bunch of Reptile Hounds will be hilarious though.

The Rotterhorn looks to be good, and she will make him cheaper, but that is still 1 point more expensive than using him on your warlock. Dogpile is pretty cool, but perhaps redundant with Black Clads and Lanyssa. A Razorwing gets no benefit from her other than a points decrease. And Scarsfell... gains nothing again.

As a 2 point boostable Dogpile and shooting bot, she isn't too bad. She just doesn't make griffons much better. Lots of us were hoping she would give her battlegroup sprint, or something to let them survive a bit so we are not throwing a 5 point model at 2-3 infantry then getting it blendered. Really though, any battlegroup spell that wasn't Watcher would have been nicer.


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Wow, just noticed, new argus and rotterhorn are very aggressively priced at 4 points each. Very nice.


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Wait, she is boosting Dogpile off Fury 4... that is terrible, I was mistaken.

 Wehrkind wrote:

 Laughing Man wrote:

 Wehrkind wrote:
Una will make you a sad panda if you play Circle :(

Not sure why. The griffins are pretty neat, and she makes them a hell of a lot more focus efficient (not to mention lets them fully take advantage of flight).

Tyrant Zaadesh and a bunch of Reptile Hounds will be hilarious though.

The Rotterhorn looks to be good, and she will make him cheaper, but that is still 1 point more expensive than using him on your warlock. Dogpile is pretty cool, but perhaps redundant with Black Clads and Lanyssa. A Razorwing gets no benefit from her other than a points decrease. And Scarsfell... gains nothing again.

As a 2 point boostable Dogpile and shooting bot, she isn't too bad. She just doesn't make griffons much better. Lots of us were hoping she would give her battlegroup sprint, or something to let them survive a bit so we are not throwing a 5 point model at 2-3 infantry then getting it blendered. Really though, any battlegroup spell that wasn't Watcher would have been nicer.


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Wow, just noticed, new argus and rotterhorn are very aggressively priced at 4 points each. Very nice.


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Wait, she is boosting Dogpile off Fury 4... that is terrible, I was mistaken.

She's 5 points with a rotterhorn, and that's double or triple casting it's animus a turn. Even if you only manage to get one good charge/shot out of the pair, they've probably paid for themselves, especially when you consider the Rotterhorns anti-infantry blast thingy. She'll probably want 2 beasts to keep up her fury, but honestly, you could just take the pair and cut for an extra a turn if needed, because she'll probably die in a single shot anyway, her def and a transfer is her defense mechanism.

Turns out she is 6 with Rotterhorn (unless she costs two herself?) I was incorrectly assuming she was 2 points; it seems all the lessers are 3 points, then she gives the 4 point Rotterhorn (!) a discount of 1. 6 points for the two is probably pretty good, spamming the animus and getting a random sneaky shot to snipe a UA or solo. Just feeling REALLY one dimensional at the moment.

Another update on Una; turns out her ranged weapon ignores the firing into melee penalty, and has three shots per turn (not ROF 3, so she doesn't need to spend fury for the last two attacks). Dogpile is deeply useless on her, because when is she going to be further forward than her battlegroup, and blow 3/4's of her fury on one spell that's far from guaranteed to hit? And I can't see myself using the other two griffons on her, since the Scarsfell is just generally useless and the Razorwing will shoot out her control area after one trample. But I can very easily see myself taking her and two Rotterhorns as a 9pt-package. Multiple uses of a great animus, a good boostable gun, and an auto-hitting special action to clear light and medium infantry is excellent.

With anti-Stealth and Mark Target, the Moonhound really gives Circle some ranged game at long last.

Where's the three shots per turn coming from ? I'm not seeing it on her card in warroom.

Apparently Warroom is flawed. Moony also has an animus.

A) Holy Crap your'e right next door.

B) Yes it was flawed its been updated with moonies animus which makes it surprising they wouldn't have fixed Una as well. I'd love for it to be the case just looking for some sort of quality confirmation.

Sorry, I would have been more loquacious but my cat was pinning down my right hand, and typing was rough going

Apparently Warroom is still trying to get its big boy pants on right, instead of both legs in one hole etc. but the models are available at Adepticon so people are slowly reporting back from there. Proper confirmations from pictures of cards etc should be hitting the 'nets here in a bit, as the PP store opened today from what I understand, but there is a lot of gaming and drinking to do before they get posted

You play over at Huzzah?

Occasionally on the weekends, get off to late for Tuesday nights.

Ahh cool. I might start frequenting there a bit more once the semester ends. I go up to Rockville periodically, but that is a hell of a commute :(

I'm curious as to how well the war beast units will work with these guys


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Also, the troll is disgustingly good against colossals. 24 damage a turn at range 10 for 3 points is just wrong.

 Surtur wrote:
I'm curious as to how well the war beast units will work with these guys


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Also, the troll is disgustingly good against colossals. 24 damage a turn at range 10 for 3 points is just wrong.

The molten metal spell does only 6 damage to Colossals - it only hits one Grid. This has been confirmed by infernals.

Still, 12 damage to a heavy from a 3pt solo at range isn't bad, though it will mean he becomes paste next turn without transfers. Team him up with a Slag troll (8pts total), upkeep hotshot, cast Molten Metal once, and they'll nearly be able to cripple a heavy at range with ease, and still have a fury for transfer. Not bad. If you put him with two lights (he could defintiely rock a slag/Pyre combo, or 2 slags), you'd definitely have to invest some effort in keeping him safe, however - I think he'd really like Janissas wall to hide behind, or a solid unit of some sort.

 Maddermax wrote:

 Surtur wrote:
I'm curious as to how well the war beast units will work with these guys


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Also, the troll is disgustingly good against colossals. 24 damage a turn at range 10 for 3 points is just wrong.

The molten metal spell does only 6 damage to Colossals - it only hits one Grid. This has been confirmed by infernals.

Still, 12 damage to a heavy from a 3pt solo at range isn't bad, though it will mean he becomes paste next turn without transfers. Team him up with a Slag troll (8pts total), upkeep hotshot, cast Molten Metal once, and they'll nearly be able to cripple a heavy at range with ease, and still have a fury for transfer. Not bad. If you put him with two lights (he could defintiely rock a slag/Pyre combo, or 2 slags), you'd definitely have to invest some effort in keeping him safe, however - I think he'd really like Janissas wall to hide behind, or a solid unit of some sort.

Thank god because that is not at all what the spell implies.

Jerram wrote:
Where's the three shots per turn coming from ? I'm not seeing it on her card in warroom.

Source was from Muse on Minis. We'll see if it pans out.

Yeah the Molten Metal spell has been errated. However, think on this;

Horgol
--Slag
--Slag

That's a 13 (?) point module. Let's go all in on a Stormwall!

Two Molten Metals (12 damage)
4 boosted damage shots from the two slags (32 damage)

That's 44 damage from those three models against a Stormwall. That's not too shabby.

The problem I see with this guy is keeping him alive. If you run a slag, you'll want to spend all his Fury (Boost hit, Buy, Boost hit). That doesn't leave Horgol a transfer target. If you run him double Slag, while cute, it is 13 points--which is problematic.

I've built a few lists with eGrim and him running a Slag and it would be ok. It fits for my eGrim, as he's my Cryx drop--and most Cryx casters don't enjoy seeing a Slag. Of course, he loses Mage Sight when eGrim isn't running him--but them's the breaks. He's ok but I don't really see him making most lists.

I am pretty sure it has been corrected/clarified that Hogol gives a 1 point discount on his critters too, though I don't have a hard source to reference. His little beast star is going to be hell on wheels against jacks in either case.

 Wehrkind wrote:
His little beast star is going to be hell on wheels against jacks in either case.

Yeah, that was my thought, though when I went to have a little look on the Trollblood PP forum, they were flipping out about him being way too cornercase. Ah well, I'm pretty sure he'll have a place in a few different builds, especially with a fair few colossals around these days.