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Seeing as pointless bickering got the other thread closed, let's try to do better this time!

I've been going through the ME series again, trying to go through the best paragon run I possibly can. I accomplished nearly everything in ME1 to my satisfaction, although I still feel kind of rushed during ME2. It could just be the way the story goes though, apparently I shouldn't feel rushed to get an "Everyone survives" ending?

 Melissia wrote:
Seeing as pointless bickering got the other thread closed, let's try to do better this time!

I've been going through the ME series again, trying to go through the best paragon run I possibly can. I accomplished nearly everything in ME1 to my satisfaction, although I still feel kind of rushed during ME2. It could just be the way the story goes though, apparently I shouldn't feel rushed to get an "Everyone survives" ending?

Take your time. Do every quest.

And in gods name DO NOT DO the Reaper IFF mission UNTIL THE VERY LAST CHANCE YOU GET.

The Reaper IFF mission upon completion starts a hidden timer. To avoid that timer, simply save that mission last.


Otherwise its easy to assure everyone lives, just slow down and think about your decisions.





Here is a question. Has anyone tried the Citadel DLC with Wrex dead already? Im curious on the results (as this would effect if I pick it up or not)

I can't bring myself to kill Wrex.

I just can't.

He's too likable.

Sorry for my part in the thread being locked, it wasn't my intention and I should have stepped away or taken it to PM

If you are looking to get the best possible ending then don't rush to get through the main campaign. Do side quests and speak to your team often so you can get their loyalty missions, also scan planets for resources .

Some other hints off the top of my head;


I found this site useful for my playthrough - http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_Wiki

You do not actually need a high Renegade or high Paragon for Zaeed. Going from ME1 to ME2 is usually enough.

Or at least, it was enough when I just started my replay yesterday.

Can someone explain how charactersr in Mass Effect 3's multiplayer are unlocked? I'm still working my way through ME2 at the moment, but in the mean time, I'm curious about how quickly in terms of game hours played that I'll be able to play, for example, an Asari Huntress, or the N7 ninja class whose name I forgot.

Uhh, hard to say, as it's all a matter of luck. You buy packs, and either you get a class or you don't.
It depends on the "quality" of the class too, though, as the various packs have different chances to give you cards of the various quality levels - so if the character you want has a low quality level, you'd get the corresponding card faster by purchasing the cheap packs (simply because you can get more cards that way, thus having a higher chance).

Me, I had the usual P&P dice luck and unlocked just about anything but the Asari I wanted to play, providing me with a good amount of simmering frustration as to why multiplayer customisation was so heavily dependent on luck even where it comes to the look of your character.
Think I finally managed to get her after about two months or so.

On the plus side, some of the other characters are genuine fun as well, and maybe I would've never played them if I hadn't been "forced" to. Started with the Human Infiltrator, and later on the Geth Engineer. Quite enjoyable.

Good luck!

[edit] Dayuuuum, looks like BioWare churned out a ton of new stuff since the time I stopped playing. May actually have to take another look at it. I've been curious regarding the various new DLC that came out over the past couple months anyways...
Not really too hot on some of the new classes (*lore nerd alert*), but still ... maybe it's time to dust off ye olde M-8 Avenger and the Asari Commando bodyglove again.

 Melissia wrote:
I can't bring myself to kill Wrex.

I just can't.

He's too likable.

I HATED him and all the Krogans.

Im a huge Turian fan. I respect honor and treat war in an almost art like fashion like the Turians treat it. The Krogans fight just for the sake of fighting. In my first completion (ME1 -ME3) I saved Wrex in the first game but sense I sided against the Krogans in 3 I [Bailey] killed him. In my current completion run I just let Ashley kill him on Vermire because I find that scene hilarious.

Oh I wasn't talking about Krogans. Just Wrex.

 Lynata wrote:
Uhh, hard to say, as it's all a matter of luck. You buy packs, and either you get a class or you don't.
It depends on the "quality" of the class too, though, as the various packs have different chances to give you cards of the various quality levels - so if the character you want has a low quality level, you'd get the corresponding card faster by purchasing the cheap packs (simply because you can get more cards that way, thus having a higher chance).

Me, I had the usual P&P dice luck and unlocked just about anything but the Asari I wanted to play, providing me with a good amount of simmering frustration as to why multiplayer customisation was so heavily dependent on luck even where it comes to the look of your character.
Think I finally managed to get her after about two months or so.

On the plus side, some of the other characters are genuine fun as well, and maybe I would've never played them if I hadn't been "forced" to. Started with the Human Infiltrator, and later on the Geth Engineer. Quite enjoyable.

Good luck!

[edit] Dayuuuum, looks like BioWare churned out a ton of new stuff since the time I stopped playing. May actually have to take another look at it. I've been curious regarding the various new DLC that came out over the past couple months anyways...
Not really too hot on some of the new classes (*lore nerd alert*), but still ... maybe it's time to dust off ye olde M-8 Avenger and the Asari Commando bodyglove again.

Just as a comment:

The "Awakened" kit is far more lore friendly than the Alliance Infiltration Unit or the Volus kits on the frontline.

Can't say more without spoiling the "Leviathan" DLC.

Kanluwen wrote:The "Awakened" kit is far more lore friendly than the Alliance Infiltration Unit or the Volus kits on the frontline.

Right on the money. Those two are the ones that really bother me.

Kanluwen wrote:Can't say more without spoiling the "Leviathan" DLC.

I think I already spoilered myself when looking at one of the other classes... Damn you, ME wiki!

Oh well. I'm most interested in the Omega DLC, anyways, because Aria. And I guess it's about time that I take a look at the Extended Cut as well.

Omega DLC is horrible. Really, really horrible. 90% filler combat.

Leviathan is decent.

Still super disappointed about the ending. Not the actual ending, but the way to it. Bioware had the chance to go for some really cool cutscenes. Ye know, big war, people dying, pew pew pew in space, showing the armies you gathered.

And most of all, the ending looks like it's been written by a 14 year old. I mean...wow. Deus Ex Machina and carefully explaining the story by a character you never even had the slightest emotional relation to? Meh.

Great game overall, 8/10. Ending ruins the score.

Oh, and don't play Vanguard, it's broken as hell...god mod at about 35-50% of the game, even at highest difficulty.

I used to find the Vanguard terrible in my 'hard' run on ME2.

Infiltrator, always infiltrator.

 Melissia wrote:
I can't bring myself to kill Wrex.

I just can't.

He's too likable.

If you have enough paragon or renegade and you say the right things, you can talk Wrex down. You can even manage to talk Saren into killing himself.

 Mr Nobody wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
I can't bring myself to kill Wrex.

I just can't.

He's too likable.

If you have enough paragon or renegade and you say the right things, you can talk him down. You can even manage to talk Saren into killing himself.

"Killing".

 Melissia wrote:
I can't bring myself to kill Wrex.

I just can't.

He's too likable.

Then don't. It's not like you need to for a Paragon run. Quite the opposite actually. Finding his family's armour will help a lot.


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 Melissia wrote:
Can someone explain how charactersr in Mass Effect 3's multiplayer are unlocked? I'm still working my way through ME2 at the moment, but in the mean time, I'm curious about how quickly in terms of game hours played that I'll be able to play, for example, an Asari Huntress, or the N7 ninja class whose name I forgot.

N7 Shadow. I got one of those. Judging by what I see from Kanluwen, you need approximately 10 bazillion hours to get everything.

Thats not what he said. He says when given the choice he let Wrex live.

I choosed to kill Wrex, I was like maxed Paragon at the time, I just made sure I didnt pick the best response so I could kill him.


Its nearly impossible to let Wrex die unless you mean to do it.

ME1 always leaves me feeling unaccomplished because even when I replayed before ME3 dropped, taking a fresh Shep to the ready line for ME3 with a class I hadn't tried before, I took my time, explored a lot and I still feel like I didn't see, find or do even 50% of the game.

ME2 is a little more linear, and while it's nice to be able to take care of business, and you should feel a bit rushed because you're on a "timer" story wise, I do feel ME2 is a bit more narrow... but thank god the inventory system changed, so. many. useless. pairs. of. trousers.

ME3... brilliant game over all, the combat was smooth, the character interaction, between NPCs even when Shep was just shutting up were very natural and in most cases hilarious, 10/10 game till the last 20 minutes.

I love the mass effect series. Im really looking forward to running through the citadel DLC this weekend, I cant do it currently because my xbox is at my gfs house and I cannot get EA to connect no matter how hard I try.

I also could not bring myself to kill Wrex, really I cant bring myself to let anyone die, even the annoying characters.

Ya, so hating the new DLC so far. In a section where they want you to be stealthy so they take away all your weapons and give you some crappy stealth pistol. Unfortunately ME and stealth don't work together. I'm a soldier so all my powers are gun based. Hopefully this will section will end soon.


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Alright done with that part, thank God for Wrex.

I don't get the dislike for the stealth bit... Pretty much that's cause I just ignored all the stealthiness and just shot the bad guys in the head 2 or 3 times then moved on.

 Lynata wrote:
Uhh, hard to say, as it's all a matter of luck. You buy packs, and either you get a class or you don't.
It depends on the "quality" of the class too, though, as the various packs have different chances to give you cards of the various quality levels - so if the character you want has a low quality level, you'd get the corresponding card faster by purchasing the cheap packs (simply because you can get more cards that way, thus having a higher chance).

[edit] Dayuuuum, looks like BioWare churned out a ton of new stuff since the time I stopped playing. May actually have to take another look at it. I've been curious regarding the various new DLC that came out over the past couple months anyways...
Not really too hot on some of the new classes (*lore nerd alert*), but still ... maybe it's time to dust off ye olde M-8 Avenger and the Asari Commando bodyglove again.

Yeah, I know what you mean about Mass Effect and its lore breaking multiplayer. The final DLC was pretty much taken from random suggestions on the BioWare site.

The way the character & weapon packs work is to use in game currency to gamble on which pack you want in the hope of getting something useful. And if that fails the EA have kindly provided you with the option of spending real money with a chance to get something useful

 Sigvatr wrote:
Omega DLC is horrible. Really, really horrible. 90% filler combat.

Leviathan is decent.

Still super disappointed about the ending. Not the actual ending, but the way to it. Bioware had the chance to go for some really cool cutscenes. Ye know, big war, people dying, pew pew pew in space, showing the armies you gathered.

And most of all, the ending looks like it's been written by a 14 year old. I mean...wow. Deus Ex Machina and carefully explaining the story by a character you never even had the slightest emotional relation to? Meh.

Great game overall, 8/10. Ending ruins the score.

The ending was horrible, some of it makes sense if you really sit down and think about it (but part of me cynically wonders if the next Mass Effect game will help explain the ending). BioWare really dropped the ball for the ending cutscenes. Throughout the game you fight on planets all over the galaxy yet none of these planets is given any meaningful time in the cut scenes. I thought that Omaga was perhaps one of the worst DLCs released, it did very little for me and I felt that (without spoiling it) there were parts that the player should have had more input over through their choices throughout the missions.


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Rotgut wrote:
.I also could not bring myself to kill Wrex, really I cant bring myself to let anyone die, even the annoying characters.

Really? I couldn't stand and killed him on every playthough.

I think Omega really did depend on you reading the Mass Effect: Invasion comic beforehand, much like the Shadowbroker dlc in ME2 did, though Omega explained less.

For the ending comments now, are people basing their discussions nowadays on the extended cut ending, or the original?

I know some folk who have completed the game for the first time since the Extended Cut came out and have just shrugged and said, "what's the big deal? The ending was fine."

 Compel wrote:
For the ending comments now, are people basing their discussions nowadays on the extended cut ending, or the original?

For me, the extended cut

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Ya, so hating the new DLC so far. In a section where they want you to be stealthy so they take away all your weapons and give you some crappy stealth pistol. Unfortunately ME and stealth don't work together. I'm a soldier so all my powers are gun based. Hopefully this will section will end soon.

That sounds... less than fun.

The least they could do is make the stealth pistol kill on a headshot...

On normal difficulty, it's 1 shot to take the shields down, 1 shot to kill. You have at least 5 shots in the clip, 45 odd shots total ammo at once.

I really did not find it to be difficult to do without using any powers.

Now, perhaps on Insanity difficulty, it becomes a helluva lot worse but then... what is that difficulty's name?

Oh in case there is anyone like me. If Wrex was murdered like the dog he is, James Vega replaces him. Thats fine by me sense I actually like Vega.


Im debating it. I dont like the price but something tells me they did a good job with the characters.

 Ouze wrote:

 KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Ya, so hating the new DLC so far. In a section where they want you to be stealthy so they take away all your weapons and give you some crappy stealth pistol. Unfortunately ME and stealth don't work together. I'm a soldier so all my powers are gun based. Hopefully this will section will end soon.

That sounds... less than fun.

To give you an idea, the M-11 "Suppressor" pistol?

It has a 200% headshot damage multiplier.

 Galdos wrote:
Oh in case there is anyone like me. If Wrex was murdered like the dog he is, James Vega replaces him. Thats fine by me sense I actually like Vega.


Im debating it. I dont like the price but something tells me they did a good job with the characters.

Vega? How can one like Vega? I mean, seriously. He's a 14 year old in a body that's bursting with steroides. Tiny, tiny balls. He's worse than "I whine a lot!" Kaiden. And seriously, Kaiden...why would I let a woman die? A woman I can have sex with *and* a woman that gets hot in ME3? That's just irrational!