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Made in pl
Numberless Necron Warrior




Cracow

I would play wraithwing like this e.g. for 1850 pts game:

hq
2 D.lord+sw+mss
troops
4x5 warriors + Night scythe
fa
6xwraiths
2x5 wraiths + 2 whip coils
hs
3 A.Barge

squad of wraiths with lords are good weapon against av13+ warscythe on lord and S6 rending on wraiths.
I think 2 d.lords are important here, he incredibily boosts your squads. Zandrekh and immortals are very good, but in this type of list i would bet on speed, and they are mainly standing 355 pts, but i have to admit that 1xdoom scythe is quite nice idea, but there is also a problem its 175 points and have limited usefulness due to only 45o line of sight vertically and horizontally so with 6th ed rules that you can kill only models in your los it means its hard to kill and probably you wont use this toy too often and effectively

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I haven't read the whole thread, but I will say this. Based on the OP's first posting original list, it's pretty good. Almost that exact same list took 3rd place in a regional tournament in my area (out of a field of 36, I think).

The only problem a Wraithwing list has is against an anti-infantry leafblower list. So, IG/Dark Eldar/Dark Angel Dakka Banner/Necron Tesla Spam/GK Bolter Spam.

Other than that, it's very effective.

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Thank you for all of your answers. I guess I'll go with that list. No?

HQ

Necron Destroyer Lord, Spemtineral Weave, Mindshackle Scarabs 160
Necron Destroyer Lord, Spemtineral Weave, Mindshackle Scarabs 160

Troops

5 Warriors 65
5 Warriors 65
5 Warriors 65
5 Warriors 65

Fast Attack

5 Wraiths.3 whips 205
5 Wraiths.2 whips 195
5 Wraiths.2 whips 195

Heavy Support

Annihilation Barge 90
Annihilation Barge 90
Annihilation Barge 90

Transport

Night Scythe (Troop 1) 100
Night Scythe (Troop 2) 100
Night Scythe (Troop 3) 100
Night Scythe (Troop 4) 100

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Made in pl
Numberless Necron Warrior




Cracow

Maybe I'll ask here rather than create new topic, I have to reduce my 1850 list to 1700, what should I remove from my list? I have to remove 1 wraith beacause I lost one and temporarily dont have 16 of them, but 15. So its 35 pts less, what should I drop now? 1 5-man warrior squad with ns? or rather one d.lord?

my 1850 list i want to reduce once again:
me wrote:hq
2 D.lord+sw+mss
troops
4x5 warriors + Night scythe
fa
6xwraiths
2x5 wraiths + 2 whip coils
hs
3 A.Barge


and Fenrisulfr32 only drawback that before flyers arrive you dont have so much on table, my list have 3x wraiths and 3 barges rather than 2xwraihs and 2xbarge, I will do it like this: drop one night scythe to have one 5-man warriors on foot to keep well-hidden objective in your deployment zone, then drop 2 warriors from 6-man squads and 2 whip coils you can fit 4 wraihs and create another squad, I used to play 3-4 whip coils but the truth is that sometimes its hard to get all of them into base contact especially when you have to keep them in back of your squad to net let die of shooting, 2 wc in squad is enough, better to have more wraiths then less wraiths with wc, its useful wargear, but better to have more bodies to survive anti-infantry dakka list

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You know - I hear a lot about Whip Coils but in practice my Wraiths never really get that far upfield most of the time to where it is effective.

Most people I play against know how brutal they are and will throw their full force at them at any chance given. Usually only 2-3 will be surviving at the end of my enemies first turn unless I've held them way back as a counter assault unit - and in that case I'd rather just take a few more bodies with guns somewhere else. That 30 points could be a ResOrb for you DLord or a Tachyon Arrow for a hopeful STR 10 AP 1 attack. That would be two extra scarab bases if you already had a group going as well.

I dunno. Play with the whip coils and see how they do for you - I get their effectiveness but with the way I use my Wraiths and how they are viewed in my local area - it's just been a points dump constantly for me.

 
   
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Fenrisulfr32 wrote:

HQ

Necron Destroyer Lord, Spemtineral Weave, Mindshackle Scarabs 160
Zandrekh 185
Stormtek 25
Stormtek 25


Troops

10 Immortals 170
5 Warriors 65
5 Warriors 65
5 Warriors 65

Fast Attack

5 Wraiths, 2 Whip Coil 195
6 Wraiths, 3 Whip Coil 240

Heavy Support

Annihilation Barge 90
Annihilation Barge 90
Doom Scythe 175

Transport

Night Scythe (Troop 2) 100
Night Scythe (Troop 3) 100
Night Scythe (Troop 4) 100
Aye, not bad.
I'd maybe suggest one thing:
So you've got three units of 5 Warriors in Nightscythes, but only two Storm-teks. No problem, but you might be able to do something with that odd unit out.
Maybe try ditching their Nightscythe (have them be your backfield objective holders). Then you could try replacing one of your Annihilation Barges with a second Doomscythe (reason being, a single Doomscythe is a bullet magnet. If you've got two, even if the first one gets taken out, the second one will be able to remove whatever killed the first one, hopefully able to continue the rest of the game without fear of retribution... plus, Doomscythes are great for both mech and TEQ alike).

If you were to do this, you would have 15 points left... maybe throw another Warrior into the backfield objective holder's unit?

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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord





Fenrisulfr32 wrote:And what about this one?
Spoiler:

HQ

Necron Destroyer Lord, Spemtineral Weave, Mindshackle Scarabs 160
Zandrekh 185
Stormtek 25
Stormtek 25


Troops

10 Immortals 170
5 Warriors 65
5 Warriors 65
5 Warriors 65

Fast Attack

5 Wraiths, 2 Whip Coil 195
6 Wraiths, 3 Whip Coil 240

Heavy Support

Annihilation Barge 90
Annihilation Barge 90
Doom Scythe 175

Transport

Night Scythe (Troop 2) 100
Night Scythe (Troop 3) 100
Night Scythe (Troop 4) 100

In ordrer to get 10 immortals for zandrekh to join I had to remove 1 Stormtek, the additionals warriors in each night scythe, 1 wraith and 1 whip coil. In comparison with the first list I lose 7 wraiths (though I win 5 whip coil) 1 N.Destroyer (but I win Zandrekh + 2 Stormtek) and I lose one Annihilation Barge (but win 1 Doom Scythe. What do you guys think? This list is exactly 1850

P.S : My list doesn't HAVE to be a Wraithwing, if they are any better lists I'd be happy to see them

I think this is the best list you've posted, as it's good at pretty much everything.

Horde armies? Lots of Tesla.
Mech? Lots of Tesla and rending.
AV13+? Doom Scythe, Stormteks and Tank Hunters
Deathstars? Nothing will survive a turn of this army's concentrated efforts (Death Ray, lots of Tesla wounds, then Wraiths as sweepers)
Objectives? The slowest-moving units in this army are the Wraiths. The freakin' Jump Infantry units are the least mobile!

EDIT: If you ever decide to bump this up to 1999 pts, I would consider adding in 1x Despairtek w/ VoD and 5x Deathmarks (145 pts).

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Made in pl
Numberless Necron Warrior




Cracow

And armies with lots of anti-infantry dakka? Its a problem. They are able to wipe out lot of wraiths before the rest of army will arrive.

Not sure if you need 10 immortals, in most games they gonna just stay on your backfield with 24" range not going to do to much

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 azazel the cat wrote:
Fenrisulfr32 wrote:And what about this one?
Spoiler:

HQ

Necron Destroyer Lord, Spemtineral Weave, Mindshackle Scarabs 160
Zandrekh 185
Stormtek 25
Stormtek 25


Troops

10 Immortals 170
5 Warriors 65
5 Warriors 65
5 Warriors 65

Fast Attack

5 Wraiths, 2 Whip Coil 195
6 Wraiths, 3 Whip Coil 240

Heavy Support

Annihilation Barge 90
Annihilation Barge 90
Doom Scythe 175

Transport

Night Scythe (Troop 2) 100
Night Scythe (Troop 3) 100
Night Scythe (Troop 4) 100

In ordrer to get 10 immortals for zandrekh to join I had to remove 1 Stormtek, the additionals warriors in each night scythe, 1 wraith and 1 whip coil. In comparison with the first list I lose 7 wraiths (though I win 5 whip coil) 1 N.Destroyer (but I win Zandrekh + 2 Stormtek) and I lose one Annihilation Barge (but win 1 Doom Scythe. What do you guys think? This list is exactly 1850

P.S : My list doesn't HAVE to be a Wraithwing, if they are any better lists I'd be happy to see them

I think this is the best list you've posted, as it's good at pretty much everything.

Horde armies? Lots of Tesla.
Mech? Lots of Tesla and rending.
AV13+? Doom Scythe, Stormteks and Tank Hunters
Deathstars? Nothing will survive a turn of this army's concentrated efforts (Death Ray, lots of Tesla wounds, then Wraiths as sweepers)
Objectives? The slowest-moving units in this army are the Wraiths. The freakin' Jump Infantry units are the least mobile!

EDIT: If you ever decide to bump this up to 1999 pts, I would consider adding in 1x Despairtek w/ VoD and 5x Deathmarks (145 pts).


I agree. This is the all around best list.


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SwistakCZC wrote:And armies with lots of anti-infantry dakka? Its a problem. They are able to wipe out lot of wraiths before the rest of army will arrive.

Not sure if you need 10 immortals, in most games they gonna just stay on your backfield with 24" range not going to do to much

Got an example?
   
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Numberless Necron Warrior




Cracow

my first thoughts enemies i encoutered lately with enormous amount of anti-infantry shooting: ba pred-raz spam, ravendakkawing, 45 lootas +battlewagons

but now after some reflection, those armies are able to destroy much, but then when flyers go on board and those armies have much problem with that due to small amount of AA shooting

now one question which list you consider to be better

mine (the most typical as you can probably imagine in necron army):
 SwistakCZC wrote:

hq
2 D.lord+sw+mss
troops
4x5 warriors + Night scythe
fa
6xwraiths
2x5 wraiths + 2 whip coils
hs
3 A.Barge


or made by Fenrisulfr32
Fenrisulfr32 wrote:

HQ

Necron Destroyer Lord, Spemtineral Weave, Mindshackle Scarabs 160
Zandrekh 185
Stormtek 25
Stormtek 25


Troops

10 Immortals 170
5 Warriors 65
5 Warriors 65
5 Warriors 65

Fast Attack

5 Wraiths, 2 Whip Coil 195
6 Wraiths, 3 Whip Coil 240

Heavy Support

Annihilation Barge 90
Annihilation Barge 90
Doom Scythe 175

Transport

Night Scythe (Troop 2) 100
Night Scythe (Troop 3) 100
Night Scythe (Troop 4) 100

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