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There were terran wolves before Fenris thing so NO...And only Magnus said that theory about colonists (which was a THEORY. not a fact)..
Also SW who fail the test, become Wulfen, not regular rhino siezed wolves...
Also even if that theory is true, SW ride the colonists who mutated long time ago and not their battle brothers...but since this comment is from @Void (SW lover) it is fully ignored, printed and used for the toilet paper...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
You know, I've noticed something incredibly hypocritical about the Space Wolves. They revile the Thousand Sons for the flesh-change, and yet...what's so different between the flesh-change and the curse of the wulfen? Or for that matter, riding giant wolves that used to be Human?
"In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same"
Genetic flaw is a genetic flaw...Flesh change is postponed by Magnus and Tzeench contract while SW suffer their curse....I don't see your point @Valerian...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
DarthMarko wrote: There were terran wolves before Fenris thing so NO...And only Magnus said that theory about colonists (which was a THEORY. not a fact)..
Also SW who fail the test, become Wulfen, not regular rhino siezed wolves...
Also even if that theory is true, SW ride the colonists who mutated long time ago and not their battle brothers...but since this comment is from @Void (SW lover) it is fully ignored, printed and used for the toilet paper...
Even the Wolves admit the wolves are not natural my good sir.
The Space Wolves are big hairy man, who ride on top of bigger, hairier men.
DarthMarko wrote: There were terran wolves before Fenris thing so NO...And only Magnus said that theory about colonists (which was a THEORY. not a fact)..
Also SW who fail the test, become Wulfen, not regular rhino siezed wolves...
Also even if that theory is true, SW ride the colonists who mutated long time ago and not their battle brothers...but since this comment is from @Void (SW lover) it is fully ignored, printed and used for the toilet paper...
Even the Wolves admit the wolves are not natural my good sir.
The Space Wolves are big hairy man, who ride on top of bigger, hairier men.
ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
I thought it was meant to be a metaphor, as in there were no 'wolves' as in truly cunning creatures on Fenris until the space wolves came along. It's supposed to make the space wolves sound like they are the true wolves of Fenris etc. At least that's what I get from it.
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Jihadnik wrote: I thought it was meant to be a metaphor, as in there were no 'wolves' as in truly cunning creatures on Fenris until the space wolves came along. It's supposed to make the space wolves sound like they are the true wolves of Fenris etc. At least that's what I get from it.
This is one of the theories, I guess GW will never explain that...
But there are "Wolves" on Fenris then, they only carry Bolters and kick the TS from time to time:-)
ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
Beaviz81 wrote: I don't buy it either. I mean wolves who once were men? It's too far a stretch even for 40k.
Are you serious?
I mean, you have more trouble believing something as basic as werewolves in a fictional universe, than you do, say, hundred meter tall walking cathedrals that raze cities, or zealot battle nuns who stop lascannon fire with their faith, or nipple-armour wearing space vampires, or anything Draigo does?
Ragnar Blackmane also uses Magnus as target-practice with his spear. A much more humiliating fate than even Empy had planned for him.
Magnus materializes on Fenris. "Mohahaha I'm back time to-...Oh-oh." Magnus sees Ragnar Blackmane with a spear. "Die demon!" Then Ragnar tosses the spear hitting Magnus squarely in the eye.
Beaviz81 wrote: I don't buy it either. I mean wolves who once were men? It's too far a stretch even for 40k.
Are you serious?
I mean, you have more trouble believing something as basic as werewolves in a fictional universe, than you do, say, hundred meter tall walking cathedrals that raze cities, or zealot battle nuns who stop lascannon fire with their faith, or nipple-armour wearing space vampires, or anything Draigo does?
Or Orks.
I mean.
Come on, lol.
That's how incredible your claim is Void. I'm basically thinking you are high on somethink to come up with this.
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If you have nothing nice to say then say frakking nothing.
^ "AAAAA, not the eye again" + later he was pummeled by Bjorn and Co...
Jokes aside, he is a smart guy, but that was his theory amongst many....
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
Without having ever read that wolves quote in context, for me it always sounded to me like a reference to the "space doggies" thing. I mean, even if you don't diss the space wolves as the emperor's dogs, they are more something like the shepherd's dogs of humanity.
Man, I liked the space viking theme much more. I blame White Wolf for it. But at least git of fenris don't sparkle in the sun.
DarthMarko wrote: Genetic flaw is a genetic flaw...Flesh change is postponed by Magnus and Tzeench contract while SW suffer their curse....I don't see your point @Valerian...
Beaviz81 wrote: That's how incredible your claim is Void. I'm basically thinking you are high on somethink to come up with this.
So I take it you have not read A Thousand Sons or Prospero Burns?
Also, the Space Wolf novels suck.
You seriously think humans mutated into wolves on Fenris? That's a stretch even for 40k. You should see reason there (I mean do you know how genetically impossible this is, we can't even get children with chimps, much less wolves).
If you have nothing nice to say then say frakking nothing.
DarthMarko wrote: Genetic flaw is a genetic flaw...Flesh change is postponed by Magnus and Tzeench contract while SW suffer their curse....I don't see your point @Valerian...
Beaviz81 wrote: That's how incredible your claim is Void. I'm basically thinking you are high on somethink to come up with this.
So I take it you have not read A Thousand Sons or Prospero Burns?
Also, the Space Wolf novels suck.
You seriously think humans mutated into wolves on Fenris? That's a stretch even for 40k. You should see reason there (I mean do you know how genetically impossible this is, we can't even get children with chimps, much less wolves).
His biggest counter argument is SW novels suck (because they kick Magnus so hard every time)...So I suggest you end your discussion there, in a civil manner...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
His biggest counter argument is SW novels suck (because they kick Magnus so hard every time)...So I suggest you end your discussion there, in a civil manner...
I hate to say this, but Space Wolves really do suck. Or rather, the Vikings in SPAAACE!!! theme sucks. Its worse than ultrasmurfs, space egyptians, or Khornate Knights.
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"In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same"
It was a throwaway comment the author never backed up and probably used it because it sounded cool and mysterious...
If it means anything it probably meant that the wolves on Fenris are altered in some fashion.
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His biggest counter argument is SW novels suck (because they kick Magnus so hard every time)...So I suggest you end your discussion there, in a civil manner...
I hate to say this, but Space Wolves really do suck. Or rather, the Vikings in SPAAACE!!! theme sucks. Its worse than ultrasmurfs, space egyptians, or Khornate Knights.
I see you change your mind often..so cheers
ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
His biggest counter argument is SW novels suck (because they kick Magnus so hard every time)...So I suggest you end your discussion there, in a civil manner...
I hate to say this, but Space Wolves really do suck. Or rather, the Vikings in SPAAACE!!! theme sucks. Its worse than ultrasmurfs, space egyptians, or Khornate Knights.
I see you change your mind often..so cheers
You misunderstand. Vikings in SPAAACE!!! suck. Apart from that...the Space Wolves are fine.
"In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same"
Beaviz81 wrote: That's how incredible your claim is Void. I'm basically thinking you are high on somethink to come up with this.
So I take it you have not read A Thousand Sons or Prospero Burns?
Also, the Space Wolf novels suck.
You seriously think humans mutated into wolves on Fenris? That's a stretch even for 40k. You should see reason there (I mean do you know how genetically impossible this is, we can't even get children with chimps, much less wolves).
They are referring to the Canis Helix which turns Aspirants of the SWs into Wulfen if they are not able to control the change they are undergoing. The assumption is now that those Wulfen do not just stay at the state of a half-wolf-half-men-being we saw in the 13th Company but rather slowly transform into full wolves and as the Aspirants are abandoned on some random point on Fenris and have to find back to the Fang, those Wulfen are the actual source of all the wolves on Fenris.
Playing mostly Necromunda and Battletech, Malifaux is awesome too!
His biggest counter argument is SW novels suck (because they kick Magnus so hard every time)...So I suggest you end your discussion there, in a civil manner...
I hate to say this, but Space Wolves really do suck. Or rather, the Vikings in SPAAACE!!! theme sucks. Its worse than ultrasmurfs, space egyptians, or Khornate Knights.
I see you change your mind often..so cheers
You misunderstand. Vikings in SPAAACE!!! suck. Apart from that...the Space Wolves are fine.
Friend - Vamps, Romans, Egyptians and Egyptian terminators, Mission Impossible marines,Batmans, gladiators,hooligans, gay poets,space nuns are ok ?
Beaviz81 wrote: That's how incredible your claim is Void. I'm basically thinking you are high on somethink to come up with this.
So I take it you have not read A Thousand Sons or Prospero Burns?
Also, the Space Wolf novels suck.
You seriously think humans mutated into wolves on Fenris? That's a stretch even for 40k. You should see reason there (I mean do you know how genetically impossible this is, we can't even get children with chimps, much less wolves).
They are referring to the Canis Helix which turns Aspirants of the SWs into Wulfen if they are not able to control the change they are undergoing. The assumption is now that those Wulfen do not just stay at the state of a half-wolf-half-men-being we saw in the 13th Company but rather slowly transform into full wolves and as the Aspirants are abandoned on some random point on Fenris and have to find back to the Fang, those Wulfen are the actual source of all the wolves on Fenris.
Could you point me to the canix helix stages ? I mean the source from which you made that assumption...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
Okay. That is even more worrisome than the mere thought that the Wulfen becomes wolves. Because that means that half of the Wulfen changes gender. Or the Wulfen rapes human females to produce wolves. Both are equally squicky for me.
If you have nothing nice to say then say frakking nothing.
His biggest counter argument is SW novels suck (because they kick Magnus so hard every time)...So I suggest you end your discussion there, in a civil manner...
I hate to say this, but Space Wolves really do suck. Or rather, the Vikings in SPAAACE!!! theme sucks. Its worse than ultrasmurfs, space egyptians, or Khornate Knights.
I see you change your mind often..so cheers
You misunderstand. Vikings in SPAAACE!!! suck. Apart from that...the Space Wolves are fine.
Friend - Vamps, Romans, Egyptians and Egyptian terminators, Mission Impossible marines,Batmans, gladiators,hooligans, gay poets,space nuns are ok ?
Blood Angels, Thousand Sons, and the Raven Guard don't overdo it. You don't see Magnus or his Sons walking around with wigs and false beards, do you? Or Sanguinius and the Blood Angels sleeping in coffins (except during initiation) or wearing capes with exaggerated collars. Night Lords are a bit over the top though, and the World Eaters are even worse along with the Emperor's Children.
And I hate anything related to the Ecclesiarchy. Space Wolves/Khornate Knights blowing up Ecclesiarchy ships and killing bolter bitches are definitely things I can stand behind.
Beaviz81 wrote: Okay. That is even more worrisome than the mere thought that the Wulfen becomes wolves. Because that means that half of the Wulfen changes gender. Or the Wulfen rapes human females to produce wolves. Both are equally squicky for me.
Ugh. Did you have to be so explicit?
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"In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same"
Beaviz81 wrote: Okay. That is even more worrisome than the mere thought that the Wulfen becomes wolves. Because that means that half of the Wulfen changes gender. Or the Wulfen rapes human females to produce wolves. Both are equally squicky for me.
Yep, ignore the whole reproduction process...Russ was found by a giant Fenrisian she-wolf IIRC...Also Wulfen who can't be tamed are put down IIRC...or not....hell now my mind is blown...
BA don't overdo it ? Sleeping in coffins, drinking blood and don't forget the nipple armor?
TS? OMG?
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
Beaviz81 wrote: Okay. That is even more worrisome than the mere thought that the Wulfen becomes wolves. Because that means that half of the Wulfen changes gender. Or the Wulfen rapes human females to produce wolves. Both are equally squicky for me.
Yep, ignore the whole reproduction process...Russ was found by a giant Fenrisian she-wolf IIRC...Also Wulfen who can't be tamed are put down IIRC...or not....hell now my mind is blown...
That's called cherry-picking
"In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same"
DarthMarko wrote: Could you point me to the canix helix stages ? I mean the source from which you made that assumption...
There is no source for this, if there were one there would be no discussion as the case would be clear. It's just implied by Magnus and Sindermann that it works that way and as the SWs in Prospero Burns stated them self that they are the only wolves on Fenris, where did the Thunderwolves they ride today come from?
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purplefood wrote: It was a throwaway comment the author never backed up and probably used it because it sounded cool and mysterious...
If it means anything it probably meant that the wolves on Fenris are altered in some fashion.
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
DarthMarko wrote: Could you point me to the canix helix stages ? I mean the source from which you made that assumption...
There is no source for this, if there were one there would be no discussion as the case would be clear. It's just implied by Magnus and Sindermann that it works that way and as the SWs in Prospero Burns stated them self that they are the only wolves on Fenris, where did the Thunderwolves they ride today come from?
That's the point of the thread...GW give you teasers (like the missing legions and the OP's), so we can make assumptions (which are full of holes)....
Like I said, there are a few theories and every one is full of holes....no offense
purplefood wrote: It was a throwaway comment the author never backed up and probably used it because it sounded cool and mysterious...
If it means anything it probably meant that the wolves on Fenris are altered in some fashion.
Simple and awesome answer.../thread
@PredaKhaine I always wanted to know, how do you have a EU flag in your sig?
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
4th company
The Screaming Beagles of Helicia V
Hive Fleet Jumanji
" -KingCracker
