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Made in ca
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Okay so this is a 2 part question:

I was playing a game the other day against SM using GK, I was using the vindicare assassin shooting at a predator using a turbo pen round. I rolled all low numbers but the combined sum was like 14-15 meaning it was a penetrating hit. My opponent argued that it didnt do any damage because each dice was its own "penetrating hit" not the sum of them. For example if i rolled a 1, 5, 4, and 3 against armor 13 I would say I inflicted a penetratin hit (1+5+4+3+ character strength of 3 would be 16) what he's saying is i didnt do any damage since each dice is seperate (1+3, 5+3, 4+3 and 3+3 ) since none of the dice came close to 13 it did nothing. In this case who is right?

Also if im right, is this how the melta special rule works or is it different?
   
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander




New Zealand

Melta rolls 2D6 and adds strength value to get the final penetration result if the range is 6" or less. Sorry not too sure about Vindicare but it sounds like your friend is wrong to me.

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Loyal Necron Lychguard






Your friend was wrong.
   
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The Hive Mind





You're right and Meltas work the same.

With his interpretation the Turbo Penetrator round is literally useless.

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Longtime Dakkanaut



Aizuwakamatsu, Fukushima, Japan

You are right (although it's weapon strength of 3 not character strength).

EDIT: Not quite useless. With Rending it could potentially penetrate AV11 up to 4 times. But practically useless, as it would rely on Rending to penetrate anything.

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Made in ca
Grisly Ghost Ark Driver





Your friend is completely wrong: you are supposed to add up the penetration dice for the turbo-penetrator round not treat them seperately. Same for melta if you are within range of the effect as listed in it's USR.

So you should have blown that predator to kingdom come. (or at least rolled on the penetrating hit table with a +2)
   
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

rigeld2 wrote:
You're right and Meltas work the same.

With his interpretation the Turbo Penetrator round is literally useless.

Well not literally useless. He could still pen an AV 10-11 vehicle and glance AV 12 (Due to rending)

But his interpretation was incorrect, as they are not separate shots so they are not separate armor pen rolls. It is all one armor pen roll.

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And on top of that each 6 you get adds another d3 to the total so the Vindi can have the highest total armor pen roll in game (not that it matters).

So how you work it out during the game? Did you pen him?

01001000 01101001 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 01110010 01100101 00101110  
   
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It wouldnt be very 'turbo" if all it could do for pen roll was get 4 9s.
   
Made in ca
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Thanks guys for the information, and to answer your question Mythra, we decided to count it individually for the time being (until we can get a clear answer) he didnt last long as the entire 1500pt SM army decided he was a much bigger threat than the much larger advancing GK army so we didn't have to deal with that one ever again lol
   
 
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