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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 23:04:33
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Plastictrees
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Have Mantic typically let people add to their pledge after the KS is over? If so do they generally use Paypal?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 23:10:28
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Fixture of Dakka
CL VI Store in at the Cyber Center of Excellence
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To be fair I was hoping before that, the Marauders just made it more important.
But but but but they're being redone and if you don't like the new ones they'll be redone again!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 23:25:20
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Really liking Nastanza, hopefully we'll some more cool looking female characters like her before this campaigns over. Also glad they changed the Asterian Cypher fluff from cyborgs/dead Asterians to semi autonomouss AI with uplinked
controllers, I wonder if this means there will be some sort of "buffing" uplink drone added at some point.
All in all great update, also sorry to spam a previous question but isn't there surppost to be a larger Cypher coming in a future update?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 23:57:41
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I want to drop some cash on this thing. I'm looking at Strike Team as it appears to be the sweet spot in this KS. Also want to add on some mats to get up to 6x4 and maybe some terrain.
Since I don't feel like farming 88 pages or 20k comments, can anyone tell me about the "9 scenery sprues" ?
As in; How many buildings is that, does anyone know how much surface that covers? Will 9 sprues be enough for 2x2, 2x4, etc...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 00:02:21
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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If you check out update 50 I think your looking at the $50 level setup. Which is about enough for a 2x2
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http://thelaughterofthedamned.blogspot.co.uk/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 00:04:22
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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And Scarlet Squig posted some images of what could be made out of certain amount of sprues
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 00:17:47
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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edlowe wrote:If you check out update 50 I think your looking at the $50 level setup. Which is about enough for a 2x2
Alright, not too shabby.
So basically from what they are posting on the front page, 3 sprues = 1 Battlezone, so 9 sprues would be 3 Battlezones.
Meaning not enough terrain for a 6x4 or even a sparse 4x4.
To the math lab!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 00:20:05
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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Not sure if theyve updated the front page fully but the battlezones now come with four sprues. You currently get one and a half battlezones at strike.
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http://thelaughterofthedamned.blogspot.co.uk/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 01:24:57
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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They have updated the front page, it says clearly 4 building sprues + 1 connector sprue in each battlezone.
So, Strike Team currently contains this: http://i.imgur.com/knLecTH.png
.. minus the L shaped building at the bottom, but + a bunch of scatter terrain from the accessory sprue which isn't included in that pic. Roughly speaking. (back pedants, back I say! *waves firey stick*)
They want to add some more terrain sprues to Strike Team before this is over though, depends on if they get the funding or not. Hopefully we'll see a couple more sprues added so we can make 2x battlezones + 1 accessory sprue total.
@plastictrees: Yes, and yes. Best to front the money during the campaign if possible though, so that it contributes towards the total.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 05:59:10
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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I like the new figure they juts added.
Honestly, the KoW sculpts - botht he quality and the way they're really dragging out showing them off are making me very dubious about this KS, not to mention the Orks that were being rebuilt over the weekend.. week's almost over now.
Seeing the KoW ogres go from "BOGOF" to "16.5% off" also makes me dubious about the end value here as well. I simply don't have the money I had this timelast year top throw at KS, nor do I trust Mantic as much as I did at this time last year after seeing the way they handled scukpts in KoW/DB.
I'm not going to be dropping my Strike Team pledge at this stage - if I do it'll be in the last hours to a few bucks, rather than out completely and won't really impact the KS since it'll be during the final flood. By the same token though, since I'm neither sure about the KS nor a "Mantic Fanatic", I won't be adding anything like the dorfs and elves, etc to my pledge until those last hours (or the post- KS PM) - both for reasons of personal cash available and also that it would be much more dodgy to upgrade to double or triple strike team + potential add-ons, only to drop all of that at the Nth hour... Automatically Appended Next Post: judgedoug wrote:Earth Dragon wrote:Well, Robotech finally finished. That craptastic looking yet nostalgic game wasn't doing this one any favors. Hopefully retention won't be as much an issue moving forward.
Especially when you compare the Hydrocephalic Orx Marauders and Enforcer Captain Grumpypants to the beautiful mecha designs of Shoji Kawamori... sorry, Deadzone looks like a turd. Didn't stop me from supporting both, and still no reason to attack another KS (why? because it was super successful?)
Yeah, I don't understand this attack. Robotech offered a ton of beautiful looking mecha at a sweet price. Most easily used as, say, Robots in 40k as well - as well as the obvious Battletech uses.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 06:03:57
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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Azazelx wrote:Seeing the KoW ogres go from "BOGOF" to "16.5% off" also makes me dubious about the end value here as well.
Wait, what? When did that happen?
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Imagine the feeling when you position your tanks, engines idling, landing gear deployed for a low profile, with firing solutions along a key bottleneck. Then some fether lands a dreadnought behind them in a giant heat shielded coke can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 06:25:49
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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scarletsquig wrote:Here are the June/July releases for Kings of War, with retail prices:
MGE KWH11-1 Ogre Warriors (6) ~ JUL PreOrder $29.99
MGE KWH12-1 Ogre Shooters (6) ~ JUL PreOrder $29.99
The Ogres in the Kickstarter are $25 for 3 + Buy One, Get One Free - which makes $25 = 6 Ogres. Compared to retail now being $29.99. (before retail discounts)
Worth mentioning since some people keep going on about things like Mantic's Kickstarters offering "70% off RRP". Some stuff might work out just as cheap from retailers, so I'm wanting to watch my purchases very carefully.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 07:57:06
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
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Azazelx wrote: scarletsquig wrote:Here are the June/July releases for Kings of War, with retail prices:
MGE KWH11-1 Ogre Warriors (6) ~ JUL PreOrder $29.99
MGE KWH12-1 Ogre Shooters (6) ~ JUL PreOrder $29.99
The Ogres in the Kickstarter are $25 for 3 + Buy One, Get One Free - which makes $25 = 6 Ogres. Compared to retail now being $29.99. (before retail discounts)
Worth mentioning since some people keep going on about things like Mantic's Kickstarters offering "70% off RRP". Some stuff might work out just as cheap from retailers, so I'm wanting to watch my purchases very carefully.
Nice cherry pick. You don't have to be a douche about it.
The 70% is referring to the pledge packages not the add-ons. You re better then that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 09:03:12
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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I believe the best thing this kickstarter does is helping mantic flesh out or rewrite their background
So far the enforcers have been dislodged from the idiotic "GW space marine" background they had (still waiting to see how well they have been) and Asterians were firmly dislodged from "GW eldar" background, both can be only good things.
mantic must understand that while they share glancing similarities with GW, in the form of a fantasy setting gone science fiction, in their background they should go on their own pure background and avoid any similarities with GWs archaic background.
mantic is in the privileged position of having a clean slate, practically all warpath's background is generated now and in Dreadball, the few snippets that existed before can easily be altered now and have their universe influenced by modern sci fi.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 11:53:04
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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^^ I agree.
really love this updated render, some menacing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 13:57:14
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Are those cameras? Will they have some sort of flying base? Rules, maybe?
On a side note, does anyone know just how big is a Teraton? The scale shot on the Rebs picture makes it look HUGE, but on the pictures from dreadball they didnt look that large... never seen any side by side comparasion shots, though...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 14:15:06
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Mantic have said that female Teratons are 3x the size of the males
so it's possible the Dreadball ones shown so far are male, and the one here in Deadzone is female
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 14:21:44
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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That makes kinda sense because the scale is all over the place when comparing the in scale concept art in the mercs starter and the ones in the artwork or the dreadball models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 14:36:05
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Dakka Veteran
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Can't do a proper post for the update so I'll let someone else do it, but the new Marauders are looking pretty fantastic. There's still a bit of humor in them, and they definitely have an ape-ish appearance, but they're pretty spot on. Got excited looking at what they had to offer, which was nice... it's been awhile since they had an update that put a big grin on my face like that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 14:36:51
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Basecoated Black
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 14:37:03
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Faction Focus: The Marauders
Update #52 · May 23, 2013 · comment
In this update we explore the Marauders, showing you all of the sculpts we have so far, including a little Rebs teaser at the end - here we go!
The Marauders, as they became known after the Mandrake Rebellion, are a terror of the shipping lanes, known for attacking cargo haulers and pillaging spaceports. They see a Deadzone as an opportunity too great to pass up, even if they have to fight their way through a fleet blockade to reach one.
Marauder Ripper Suits
The Gorsch Corporation shot to fame when its Heavy Load Exo-Suit was adapted for combat use by Marauder units. With the addition of dense armour plating and support-level weaponry, the Exo-Suits became a common sight on battlefields across the galaxy. Although the Marauders no longer work for the Corporation, there are rumours that Gorsch still provides them with suit upgrades – for a price, of course.
Marauder Sniper
Although Goblins are as much a part of Marauder fleets as any of the other greenskins are, their lack of obvious battlefield potential often goes against then. However, their keen eyes and penchant for stealth leads many of them to become marksmen, carrying long-ranged rifles that let them stay out of harm’s way while sowing chaos in the enemy’s ranks.
Marauder Commandos
Right then – Commandos!
The work in progress Commando sculpts that found their way onto the interwebs simply did not match up to the bar set by the Enforcers, Rebs and Plague. With your feedback in mind, we’ve gone over the figures, tweaking the models and photographing them properly for you to see.
We want to know what you think of the improvements before we approve the figures so please do leave your feedback in the comments!!
The Orx were not always mercenaries and brigands. For a good time their considerable martial skill was put to good use by the Corporation; they were equipped and trained to act as shock troops by decree of the Council itself. Within the regime the Corporation secretly introduced the Green Watch Enhancement Programme, training the biggest of the Orx as elite Commandos. This need breed of soldier was faster, stronger and more intelligent than regular Grunts, trained in the art of subterfuge and sabotage.
Even after the rebellion the brutal elitist regime still exists within Marauder Society, the Dreadnaught-Class starship Supremacy, stolen in a legendary raid by General Gruik’s “Lucky Fives,” housing the Green Watch Training Academy. It is here where the Commandos learn their trade.
The Commandos are bigger, elite troops rather than regular Grunts and have been sculpted with the design of the Marauder Warlord and DreadBall Marauder Guard in mind.
Marauder Mawbeast Bombers
Mawbeasts are a common sight in Marauder camps. Bred to be intimidating and obedient and enhanced with mechanical “upgrades”, they are used primary as guard-dogs, but occasionally they find a place on the battlefield. In fact, it’s a surprisingly common occurrence for an enterprising Goblin to strap a Mawbeast with explosives and drive it towards the enemy. If the teeth don’t get ‘em, they say, the big bang will.
AND FINALLY
The Marauders aren’t the only sculpts we have to show you today… just check this beauty out:
Let us know what you think in the comments!
Looking a lot better...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 14:38:59
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Thermo-Optical Spekter
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Aww I was in the process of posting that.... Yes looking quite better and tapped to a nice old vibe in them, I still do not like the right one I would rather have a 1 rifle version of him, still a good salvage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 14:41:29
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Tough Traitorous Guardsman
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Wow I'm really impressed with the Orx.
I've never found sci fi orks that appealing but I could see myself getting into these.
And that rebel sculpt looks awesome too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 14:54:35
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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Well crap, now I want the Strike Team so I can get at dem orx.
Funny how just lowering the double-gun arms and a few other minor tweaks takes them from looking like GW cartoons to the badass marauders from Warpath proper.
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Imagine the feeling when you position your tanks, engines idling, landing gear deployed for a low profile, with firing solutions along a key bottleneck. Then some fether lands a dreadnought behind them in a giant heat shielded coke can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 14:55:04
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Those orxs look really good!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 14:55:38
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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I feel a lot better about the Strike Team level pledge now!
Though I admit, I'm still confused on whether or not I have to pay additional shipping for the "Expanded Universe" $50 bundle that includes Forge Fathers and Asterians.
I'm thinking that I don't...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 14:56:54
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Rippers are 'ok' as models but do not match the scale or proportions of the original concept art. Poses still need work, and the 'guns aiming' pose promised by concept art with actual sketches describing poses never materialized.
Goblin sniper = Great. Amazing what a nice simple model with a simple pose produces.
All 3 of the mauraders are trash, and not at all changed, so all the "we are fixing them and resculpting them" were boldface lies just like they did before. They have not changed at all from the greens seen before and the poses are terrible and not at all realistic. (like the knobby knee enforcers before they became 3D and had their legs fixed)Also: proportion issues from their concept art and previous orx lines.
Mawbeasts are silly fun... neither good or bad, just are.
Now I am afraid to buy A bunch of rippers as add-ons because I might get some BoGo or buy them for 10$ only to find out at retail they are less than that. So I will probably wait for retail for ripper suits and if I pay a few dollars more, so be it but better than paying extra for the honor of Kickstarting.
Welp, they closed the book on possibly getting a Maurauder force. The Orx are too terrible and throw away to make the package worth getting for the goblins and rippers.
Edit: LOL, inconsistent sculpting and design is now a 'feature'. If they can't get artists to follow a single vision, then just say so.
The Commandos are bigger, elite troops rather than regular Grunts and have been sculpted with the design of the Marauder Warlord and DreadBall Marauder Guard in mind.
How terrible. So apparently Orx in the mantic universe, when they grow into leadership, have hands which become twice the size of their head and lose the ability to stand or walk normally while regular Orx have regular reasonable 28mm proportions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 15:03:17
Subject: Re:Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Brigadier General
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I agree. The Female commander has a "Reaper" look, and I mean that in a good way. I've got some of the Reaper Chronoscope Bones figures on the way and I think that at least 4 or 5 of them will fit in nicely with my rebels.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 15:06:17
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Marauder pictures are still bad. Too small to really see what they did. Feels kinda like they are trying to hide them.
I can even swallow the bigger as they get older fluff, but the posing is the biggest issue.
Rebs leader is good, but I think her head is too big.
~Eric
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 15:12:01
Subject: Mantic Deadzone Kickstarter - $550k goal: Battlezone: Ruins.
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Funny you mention reaper. I was thinking that the sci-fi reaper minis would fit in this game great. Automatically Appended Next Post: How are those pictures too small?
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