Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Would somebody be so kind as to help me what rules would be included when fighting in the warp with daemons against space marines?

Fluff would say that the marines would either be torn to shreds or driven insane by the unreality of the warp.

But knowing GW the marines will no doubt exit the warp with better stats and a new special rules 'warp strider' - a 2+ DTW as well as a new Land Raider variant for use in the warp.

What about Night Fighting (to represent the wispy, cloudy, hazy, blazing light, and pitch darkness of the warp), and Difficult Terrain for all movement, but excluding Daemons.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
All models (besides Daemons) get a 6+ Cover Save.

All non-Chaos units must take leadership tests at the start of each player turn, all that fail immediately fall back. Possibly add in take the leadership test on a 3d6, and if failed fall back and take wounds equal to the amount failed by. If passed, however, the unit gains FNP until next turn.

 xSPYXEx wrote:
All non-Chaos units must take leadership tests at the start of each player turn, all that fail immediately fall back. Possibly add in take the leadership test on a 3d6, and if failed fall back and take wounds equal to the amount failed by. If passed, however, the unit gains FNP until next turn.

And on a Ld Roll of

The model closest to an enemy daemon becomes a chaos spawn under the control of the chaos player!

In Blood Reaver (by Aaron Dembski-Bowden) we see what happens to people who fight in the warp without the benefit of a Geller field. (Spoilers: they die horribly.) If you're talking about some kind of stable part of the Warp (like a Warp engulfed planet or somesuch) then you might want to give psykers some kind of boost, to represent their exposure to the raw stuff of their craft. Just a thought.

if you give em a boost, make it so that any roll of doubles aside from 1's they suffer a PotW to show the dangers of chaos influence

If you have a Chapter of Marines trying to "pull a Draigo", diving head-first into the Warp, you have 1000 Marines now wishing for the merciful release of death, a death that will be denied them for the millennia that daemons in the Warp (which can be, you know, planet-sized) have to toy with them.

Two suggestions from me. One simple, one not quite so simple...

1) Roll twice on the Daemons Warp Storm table every turn, instead of once.

2) Scatter every objective and every piece of terrain D6" every player turn (a hit means the piece stays where it is). Treat models that are smashed into/crushed/whatever by the incoming terrain as taking an automatic wound or glancing hit with armour/invulnerable saves allowed, then place surviving models where they were on top of the terrain (in other words, lift 'em up and scooch the terrain piece under them).

If you wanted a "realistic" version of fighting in the warp, it would be something along the lines of

At the start of every phase, every non-daemon unit must pass a leadership test on 9 dice, those that fail are driven mad and are removed as a casualty.



But for a game where you are fighting on the edges of a warp storm, for instance, perhaps you could have double warp storm results per turn, and the terrein scatters 2d6 a turn in a random direction every movement phase before moving, stopping just before hitting unit's like drop pods. Would give a crazy, shifting warpscape feel to it

I would think the hallucination physic powers would be funny within the warp. otherwise MORE RANDOM TABLES!

 Evileyes wrote:
At the start of every phase, every non-daemon unit must pass a leadership test on 9 dice, those that fail are driven mad and are removed as a casualty.

Good thing you didn't say morale test. Then it would've been half a chance, as a double-1 always passes.

 Super Ready wrote:
Two suggestions from me. One simple, one not quite so simple...

1) Roll twice on the Daemons Warp Storm table every turn, instead of once.

2) Scatter every objective and every piece of terrain D6" every player turn (a hit means the piece stays where it is). Treat models that are smashed into/crushed/whatever by the incoming terrain as taking an automatic wound or glancing hit with armour/invulnerable saves allowed, then place surviving models where they were on top of the terrain (in other words, lift 'em up and scooch the terrain piece under them).

I LOVE IT!

My two cents: Make periodic Ld tests with pinning effects. Cumulative fail could bring madness and random behaviour leading to changing sides, representing madness overcoming until finally falling to chaos. Passing Ld tests should have positive effects like temporary Ld boosts, representing determination but still having the chance to finally be overcome by warp...