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Here ya go Alph

Deciding something as important as box contents in the comments isn't the most helpful for people... I followed the comments very closely during the campaign, and from what I remembered, the bend was in.

We didn't get the rock pile, either - it's just a bummer that this wasn't announced at all.

Almost every single update regarding rolling fields has the creek bend (and the rock pile to boot).

Update showing just those two tiles:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1084069684/tablescapes-by-secret-weapon-miniatures/posts/682999

Update showing 4 painted tiles including those two, which never specifically says it's the display board configuration... but given that it matches the concept art above exactly in terms of tiles, why would backers think the display board would look any different from this?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1084069684/tablescapes-by-secret-weapon-miniatures/posts/759019



It's just a massive failure in communication, particularly since it doesn't even match the art on the box. I guess they're not planning on selling display boards in stores? Because putting art similar to that of the campaign and the above pic on the box cover, and then different contents inside... doesn't seem like a good idea at all.

I appreciate your passing on the message Cyp, and would love for Justin to come here to give any further explanation, but that's some really poor communication and resulting in at least two of us (who happen to be frequent posters on here - who knows how many others felt the same) being unpleasantly surprised by the display board contents upon opening the box...

Yeah, I probably would have gone for eithr the urban ruins or the temple if I'd known we were going to get the much more generic board of the generic setting.

Oh well. Not super happy that I paid in advance for over a year for a meh display board that I'm probably not going to use due to my worries about it being able to hold my army.

It not matching the art on the box or being announced it would be different from the updates is pretty crappy too.

On the plus side the neat little plague holder thing that slips on is pretty cool.

It sounds to me like Justin seriously slipped up on the communications front. I hope that he resolves this to the satisfaction of his investors, or I'll be more than a little disappointed with his company.

Yeah, I was just thinking of that Ketara, but I'm not sure how it could be rectified - the possibility of swapping tiles at a convention, perhaps? As shipping seems to make it untenable otherwise...

I'm not going to burn down the house, it's just a bummer and was a surprise - and actually much more of a surprise now that I realize that the different tiles (which, as Hulk said, are more generic than expected) were included on purpose, rather than by mistake, and that the change was never announced despite it differing from the contents on the main page of the Kickstarter.

I'm only here briefly to answer questions about box contents before I have to disappear again to get orders shipped, and keep things moving.

@RiTides -- much discussion about the Display Board contents took place, and the contents are based on community feedback. It was pointed out to me by many that the rock feature left too little room for models, and that the straight creeks would be more useful to anyone that expanded their tile sets beyond Display Board contents.

Box contents for every theme are on the BACK of the box. The front of the box is identical for every theme group, and is simply a representative sample of tiles from that theme as selected by the graphic artist.

@ Hulksmash -- The Display Board is not meant for army transport, and never was. Will it work? Maybe. The Display Board is fairly sturdy and the joints are fairly strong. I wouldn't recommend it, but it's probably doable.

I'll aim to do some lurking, but with so much going on I haven't had time to keep up with all of the forums -- not even my favorite thread on Dakka

 misterjustin wrote:
and that the straight creeks would be more useful to anyone that expanded their tile sets beyond Display Board contents.

Again, I'm not going to burn the house down - but that seems like a very poor reason to go with a straight creek over the more interesting (for a display board - which is what we purchased) creek bend.

People who wanted to expand sets were, I thought, mostly purchasing 8-tile sets. 4 tiles is an odd number to expand by - you could make a 6x4' table a 7x4', or a 4x4' into a 5x4'... I just don't see it. I guess you mean as alternate pieces, but again, that's not the best metric to choose based on and clearly you didn't hear from all your backers, as the first two of us here to post that we received the rolling fields display boards would have preferred the creek bend. I imagine it is true of many people, and you would have gotten better / more representative feedback by putting out an update regarding this.

So, I disagree with your decision and process here, and I will still support your company, but I hope you improve on this in the future!

8 tile sets are a Kickstarter exclusive item, and are not available for purchase outside of the campaign. I have no plans to make them available in the near future either.

All of the set content decisions were made with community feedback -- with the lone exception of the Scrap Yard and Forgotten City 16 tile sets which got 1/ea of the 16 unique tiles.

That makes sense, but I think you might get more representative community feedback in the future by actually putting out an update regarding these decisions. As an obvious example, posters following the comments after a campaign closes are the most devoted fans - therefore, they're likely to have invested more, and have more use for certain tiles added to larger sets, rather than people who simply backed for only a display board.

Personally, I just took the contents for granted... obviously a mistake here, since they changed after the fact, and were never put out as an update.

Again, I'll still support your company, but I hope the honest and hopefully constructive feedback (which is from Hulksmash as well, and I'm sure there will be others) is helpful to you for the future.

 Cyporiean wrote:
Here ya go Alph

Thanks Cyporiean - much appreciated!

I'm interested in seeing people paint there's up.

I wasn't that interested in this theme during the campaign, but now that I've shifted my gaming focus, this one might come in very handy indeed!

Oh, absolutely the feedback is useful!

The contents were listed at some point, as I did that before the pledge manager closed, but I'll be buggered if I can find the right update at this point. There are so many now that it defies finding.

But no decision about the product was made in a vacuum, even if some details were left out of announcements.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:
Here ya go Alph

Thanks Cyporiean - much appreciated!

I'm interested in seeing people paint there's up.

I wasn't that interested in this theme during the campaign, but now that I've shifted my gaming focus, this one might come in very handy indeed!

I just need to buy some more green and brown spray paint, and then I'll be getting it and the forgotten city boards painted.

@Misterjustin

While I'm mildly annoyed at the contents being different that what I expected I'm honestly more annoyed that the display board was never intended to be able to move armies around an event like the only other hard plastic display board out there (Battlefoam X-Board). This actually compounds the blandness. If it's designed solely for display than it's the most bland display possible.

Also I'd contend that people that are talking about needing enough room for models are the ones likely to be thinking of this as something that should be able to move stuff around a hall on. Which is wasn't designed for....

Like RiTides said. I'm not burning down the house or over the top pissed or anything. Just disappointed. And actually more disappointed since it was never mentioned that it wouldn't be designed for moving stuff around.

@ Hulksmash -- neither was it ever claimed that you COULD move models around on it. Honestly it never occurred to me because for all of the events I do I've never seen anyone pick up their display and just walk off with it.

I'm sure it happens, since you clearly do it, but I've never seen it happen so it wasn't even a thought for me.

As I said though, there's a fair chance it WILL support models in transit. I haven't tested it, and don't have time at the moment, so I can't say for sure. If nothing else a bit of poster board under it would likely solve any problems though.

Any word yet on when Mantic will start shipping?

Pending

Mantic sent some questions this morning - and it turns out that the data export for UK/EU backers includes characters (like a ü or è) that the mail merge didn't like, so we have to get that sorted.

We're working to get them an updated mailing list, ASAP. I will work with them to get started on what CAN ship, and then worry about the rest. Stay tuned - and expect a proper KS update when I have news.

What's the probability that I'll get my Forgotten City 6x4 set by Thursday? I'm in Davie (South Florida). I'm scared I'm going to miss Armies on Parade by like a day.

Email me with your name and email address -- because I have no idea who you are, and so can't say whether or not you've shipped

224 US orders have left the building now....

 misterjustin wrote:
Email me with your name and email address -- because I have no idea who you are, and so can't say whether or not you've shipped

224 US orders have left the building now....

How many are left?

I sure hope the Canadian ones start shipping soon! *swoon*

I havnt seen anything pop up on my fedex tracker. I'm sure hoping my change of address went through smoothly.

Looks like I'm slated for Monday. Trying to decide if I'm going to go out to the old place to pick it up, or try to get them to route it to the new one. I have the keys until the end of the month, and I'll need to be there to turn them in at some point next week anyway....

 darefsky wrote:
I havnt seen anything pop up on my fedex tracker.

Same here. I just signed up for the Fedex tracker, could that result in the tracking number not showing? If not, then my pledge likely hasn't shipped yet.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

 darefsky wrote:
I havnt seen anything pop up on my fedex tracker.

Same here. I just signed up for the Fedex tracker, could that result in the tracking number not showing? If not, then my pledge likely hasn't shipped yet.

It took a few hours for it to show up for me, might not trigger till the next time it's scanned?

Cyporiean, that very well could be, and would make sense if the system refreshes with each scan. I don't use Fedex enough to really know the ins and outs of their system.

I'm refreshing mine about 5 times a day. Still nothing. :(

Are there going to be any more painting tutorials for the other sets? We got one for the urban tile set, but I thought they were doing one for each theme.

There will be other tutorials - the last is nearly finished - but it takes me time to edit and format each one, and I haven't had that time.

Got my Wargamer Rolling fields in today!!! Apologies for the massive pics!