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So, shiny new codex and awesome independent characters to abuse. But what is the best way to get your opponent to ragequit? Some thoughts:

1) Support commander + any unit. Who cares about weapons when you can make the rest of your unit twin-linked, ignore cover, hit and run, fleet, and choice of furious charge/tank hunters/counter-attack? Ideal candidates for the unit: broadsides, full Farsight squads, something nasty out of C:SM (don't forget you're battle brothers!).

2) Shadowsun + any unit. Stealth, shrouded, re-roll 1s to hit, infiltrate/outflank, and a pair of BS 5 18" melta shots. Don't you hate it when your terminator death star gets shot to death because they don't have a 2++? Tired of having your nice expensive XV9s and Riptides have awesome toughness but no 2++? Disappointed that your bike command squad only has a 5++ instead of the 2++ that it really deserves? Well, Shadowsun will fix that pesky problem!

3) Commander + drone controller + marker drone blob. Codex:Markerlight armies really benefit from markerlights, but pathfinders are so unreliable. Why not fix that problem and make your drone blob all BS 5? With that many markerlight hits you can pretty much pick one unit a turn and make it disappear.

Anyone else got any fun ideas?

Anuva command fish, not only good defense, but a bigger aura.

I'm liking the precision of the skilled hunter warlord trait.
Fusion blaster to the face, no look out sir for you!

 BoomWolf wrote:
Anuva command fish, not only good defense, but a bigger aura.

Devilfish in new codex can't carry anything bulky ior fatter, and the space pope is very bulky (although if you are talking about some forgewrold model I don't no about, my apologies)


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Commander Farsight+All Those Things You Used To Not Be Able To Take With Him


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Darkstrider+pathfinders with the special drones and railrifles is almost unassaultable and makes the railrifles instakill marines.


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Shadowsun+anything you want to infiltrate and give stealth+shrouded to

I am a bit biased, but farsight all the way, make a pimpin suit team and drop in the enemy lines with no scatter, thats pretty much asking for a melta assault.

khuffy wrote:
I am a bit biased, but farsight all the way, make a pimpin suit team and drop in the enemy lines with no scatter, thats pretty much asking for a melta assault.

Isn't suicide melta a bit silly for a warlord? Even with JSJ he can't get that far away, and is asking to be chased down for a free victory point.

3d6 thrust move is not easy to catch, especially with a team going with her watching her back.

Though in cities of death she is really a monster.

khuffy wrote:
I am a bit biased, but farsight all the way, make a pimpin suit team and drop in the enemy lines with no scatter, thats pretty much asking for a melta assault.

can you attach a 2nd commander to his squad for those nice signature systems items. Think about it this way if you play Apoc and need to remove that Titan, Farsight can do that for you.

If Cadre Fireblade's Volley Fire rule applies to Longshot Pulse Rifles, then he would be funny to troll with in a full sniper squad. That squad would have 6 MLs at BS 5 and 9 two-shot sniper rifles at BS 5. Makes perfect use of this static ability. All with stealth! (two of the MLs come from ML drones for the fireblade).

 BlueRift wrote:
If Cadre Fireblade's Volley Fire rule applies to Longshot Pulse Rifles, then he would be funny to troll with in a full sniper squad. That squad would have 6 MLs at BS 5 and 9 two-shot sniper rifles at BS 5. Makes perfect use of this static ability. All with stealth! (two of the MLs come from ML drones for the fireblade).

no go unfortunately, Broadsides are the only units that can take missile drones. FAQ came out today :(

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3130063a_Tau_Empire_v1.0_APRIL13.pdf

valace2 wrote:

 BlueRift wrote:
If Cadre Fireblade's Volley Fire rule applies to Longshot Pulse Rifles, then he would be funny to troll with in a full sniper squad. That squad would have 6 MLs at BS 5 and 9 two-shot sniper rifles at BS 5. Makes perfect use of this static ability. All with stealth! (two of the MLs come from ML drones for the fireblade).

no go unfortunately, Broadsides are the only units that can take missile drones. FAQ came out today :(

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3130063a_Tau_Empire_v1.0_APRIL13.pdf

There are no missile drones in my post above. Thanks for the info though.

valace2 wrote:

 BlueRift wrote:
If Cadre Fireblade's Volley Fire rule applies to Longshot Pulse Rifles, then he would be funny to troll with in a full sniper squad. That squad would have 6 MLs at BS 5 and 9 two-shot sniper rifles at BS 5. Makes perfect use of this static ability. All with stealth! (two of the MLs come from ML drones for the fireblade).

no go unfortunately, Broadsides are the only units that can take missile drones. FAQ came out today :(

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m3130063a_Tau_Empire_v1.0_APRIL13.pdf

He's talking about Markerlight Drones, instead of Missile Pod Drones.

Yes my bad.

 BoomWolf wrote:
3d6 thrust move is not easy to catch.

Though in cities of death she is really a monster.

3d6. I always forget Farsight gets 3d6. I'm sure in any sort of densely packed terrain, any unit with JSJ is horrible. As are indirect weapons.

Also people keep calling shadowsun farsight for some reason.

 BoomWolf wrote:
Also people keep calling shadowsun farsight for some reason.

Lack of the codex? That's my excuse.

I am not sure if this would be at all worth it, but:

1. Commander with TL BC and a drone controller + 2 gun drones. Add to a squad of 8 drones.

2. Deep strike 18" away and unload 24 TL BS5 shots.

Then again the amount of shots per point is pretty abysmal, so i don't think this could be called abuse by any stretch.

Just a cadre Fireblade and 12 fw would do the trick with little markerlight support.

Space Pope behind Aegis?

"Everyone go to ground!" "Now everyone get back up and shoot them in the face!"

 Mannahnin wrote:
Space Pope behind Aegis?

"Everyone go to ground!" "Now everyone get back up and shoot them in the face!"

Ooh, is Space Pope worth taking now?

 Flashman wrote:

 Mannahnin wrote:
Space Pope behind Aegis?

"Everyone go to ground!" "Now everyone get back up and shoot them in the face!"

Ooh, is Space Pope worth taking now?

I think he is well worth his 100 points. He brings two buffs to all units within 12", one of which being +1 shot to all Pulse weapons at half range, this includes Long Shot Pulse Rifles!

He's immune to AP1 too!

In regards to my post I actually meant farsight, but what I truly mean is to take plasma with the melta and target locks, and give one suit all the buffs (rerolls, ignore cover, tank hunter etc.) And honestly you don't scatter so just deploy in a corner where you are safe/obscured, and if a group of termies or tac marines assaulted, overwatch I believe results in about 2 dead termies, 3 marines, and farsight in combat can kill 2-3 terminators, hardly something to snort at. Also as I said earlier location, just choose an enemy corner where everything isn't crowded, plus with ignore cover you will just tear through defense lines, and enemies in cover, Only thing this would suck against is hordes (flamers or burst cannons anyone?)

I'm sure at some point, someone will threaten a blob of tau ground troops with a squad of fire dragons.

On that day, the tau player will move Aun'va to the front of his unit.

And there will be much rejoicing.

I think people are missing the point of this thread. I don't care about the obvious things like "put a fireblade in with fire warriors and get extra shots", I want ideas for independent character abuse. You know, the things that get you called WAAC TFG and win games when your opponent ragequits. The goal is to take all those nice USRs on Tau ICs and apply them to units they weren't supposed to be given to. If it isn't at least as frustrating to your opponent as a terminator death star where every model has a 2++ save* then it doesn't belong in this thread.


*Thank you Shadowsun.

Im too tired to post ANYTHING motely intelligent.

Lumipon wrote:
Well there is the question whether yu can join an IC with the riptide, as it can already form a unit.

Shadowsun, a single c&c drone and a riptide would make it a toughness 6 unit with ludicrous saves and the ability to buff nerby units.

And to have Shadowsun there would mean 3d6 jumps for the whole lot.

Yup, I raised the Riptide question as it occurred to me it's a damn good way to protect an Ethereal. Shadowsun would work too, BUT would work out pretty damn expensive considering she's pretty short-ranged and the Riptide loses its firepower in assault.

It's not exactly a TFG abuse, but... the combination of Ethereal and Fireblade allows a Firewarrior unit to put out 4 shots each a turn up close if they stand still. That unit isn't getting assaulted by anything any time soon.

Shadowsun + Command link drone joined to a squad of 8 marker drones.

So if I am reading this right, all the marker drones would shoot at her BS5, and her command link drone would let you reroll 1s from the markerdrone squad, so basically autohit x8 marker lights that have stealth, shrouded and a 3D6 thrust move to relocate every turn?

then second HQ of farsight + max bodyguards with TLPR (or TLFB if you want to get closer), dancing around the board after shadowsun and melting faces.

Take farsight and shadowsun. Infiltrate shadowsun+whatever squad you want to infiltrate. Drop farsight's deathsquad down nearby the infiltrated shadowsun. Have shadowsun join farsight and give his whole crisis bomb shrouded+stealth.

 Mecha_buddha wrote:
So if I am reading this right, all the marker drones would shoot at her BS5

Unless I'm missing something Shadowsun doesn't have a drone controller and her drones are stuck with BS 2 unless you also include a commander with drone controller in the unit.

 Mecha_buddha wrote:
Shadowsun + Command link drone joined to a squad of 8 marker drones.

So if I am reading this right, all the marker drones would shoot at her BS5, and her command link drone would let you reroll 1s from the markerdrone squad, so basically autohit x8 marker lights that have stealth, shrouded and a 3D6 thrust move to relocate every turn?

then second HQ of farsight + max bodyguards with TLPR (or TLFB if you want to get closer), dancing around the board after shadowsun and melting faces.

Shadowsun does not have a drone controller, go figure, so no BS5 drones for her.


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Darkstrider + Pos. Relay = mass of firewarriors walking on from opponents boardedge.

 Super Ready wrote:

Lumipon wrote:
Well there is the question whether yu can join an IC with the riptide, as it can already form a unit.

Shadowsun, a single c&c drone and a riptide would make it a toughness 6 unit with ludicrous saves and the ability to buff nerby units.

And to have Shadowsun there would mean 3d6 jumps for the whole lot.

Yup, I raised the Riptide question as it occurred to me it's a damn good way to protect an Ethereal. Shadowsun would work too, BUT would work out pretty damn expensive considering she's pretty short-ranged and the Riptide loses its firepower in assault.

It's not exactly a TFG abuse, but... the combination of Ethereal and Fireblade allows a Firewarrior unit to put out 4 shots each a turn up close if they stand still. That unit isn't getting assaulted by anything any time soon.

You could outflank a Riptide using this setup. And let the Riptide reroll one to hit to help avoid gets hot rolls.