Best Tau Independent Character abuse?

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**buo-ong**

Ravajaxe wrote:
Coyote81 wrote:

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Shadowsun does not allow this unit to infilirate. They could outflank. Or better yet deepstrike. With no scatter due to Farsight.(if hes' your warlord)

+1

I frequently seen combos of the like on the thread (and elsewhere). Sure, Shadowsun grants her abilities like shrouded, stealth... and infiltrate to the squad she joins, which is powerful. But these combos forget the fact that, by pretending to infiltrate the squad, one violates the deployment sequence. How things should be done :
show your army roster, you don't have actual units at this moment,
deploy units without infiltrate in your zone, associated with an IC if you want,
declare some units are in reserve, associated with an IC if you want,
deploy units with infiltrate ability.

So units without infiltrate cannot be be granted this special ability by the IC, because you can't have them waiting for the IC to give them infiltrate. They must be deployed normally or put in reserve.
When in reserve, the unit can be joined by the IC, so benefits from outflanking, but no more.

Counter-example : sergeant Harker has infiltrate, this ability can be used by his veteran IG squad. However, he is part of his squad, not an independent character, so it works.

It is only ICs without infiltrate that not allowed join Infiltrators during deployment phase. If ICs with Infiltrate joins a unit of not Infiltrators during deployment phase it is fully allowed, and also gives them infiltrating ability.

Infiltrate USR confers at least one model with this USR affect infiltrate deployment, and only IC without infiltrate cannot join a unit of infiltrate during deployment.

EDIT : I am wrong. sorry for that.

**Ravajaxe**

I can't see any element in the rulebook to support the assymetry you you are talking about.
BRB talks at p.39 about IC being able to join units in reserve (or on the table, obviously), never before the deployment.

So when deploy any unit without infiltrate, they are on the table right from the start, they can't wait for the IC to join them, except for both being put in your zone, as per normal.

**Iranna**

How about Farsight-Bomb with an attached Librarian from Codex: Space Marines and the Gate of Infinity psychic power?

...

They never scatter.

Iranna.

**buo-ong**

Ravajaxe wrote:
I can't see any element in the rulebook to support the assymetry you you are talking about.
BRB talks at p.39 about IC being able to join units in reserve (or on the table, obviously), never before the deployment.

So when deploy any unit without infiltrate, they are on the table right from the start, they can't wait for the IC to join them, except for both being put in your zone, as per normal.

If you say IC can never join a unit before deployment, I have a question.(No offense)

[Page 92 Kayvaan Shrike, See, But Remain Unseen.
Replace this entry with the following:
“See, But Remain Unseen: Shrike (and any models in a unit
chosen from Codex: Space Marines that he has joined before
deployment) benefit from the Infiltrate specialrule).]

This is C:SM errata, and Shrike have to join a unit BEFORE deployment to give a unit infiltrate.
BRB says IC can join a unit at a time of being deployed or being in reserve, then how Shrike can give a unit infiltrate?
Just his special rule does not work on 6th edtion?

**Ravajaxe**

buo-ong wrote:
Ravajaxe wrote:
I can't see any element in the rulebook to support the assymetry you you are talking about.
BRB talks at p.39 about IC being able to join units in reserve (or on the table, obviously), never before the deployment.

So when deploy any unit without infiltrate, they are on the table right from the start, they can't wait for the IC to join them, except for both being put in your zone, as per normal.

If you say IC can never join a unit before deployment, I have a question.(No offense)

No problem, I have not seen your edit, was typing.