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HeadRipper wrote:
Can you use your firewarrior shas'ui markerlights before anything else fires with the target lock he also gets, meaning you can effectively have a "markerlight" phase before you shoot anything

This is an easy one: NO.

Re-read the rules on the shooting phase. You nominate a unit to shoot, and then do all the shooting from that unit. Once ALL the shooting from that unit is done, you move onto the next unit. The 'ui markerlight shot happens simultaneously with all the other shots from his unit.


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 BlueRift wrote:
Volley Fire:
Does Volley Fire also provide an additional shot for Longshot Pulse Rifles?

There's like a 90% chance that it doesn't, but I'd like to be sure.

Where are you getting that 90% from?

Volley Fire affects all PULSE weapons.
Is the LongShot pulse rifle a pulse weapon? YES.
Does volley fire give an extra shot to the Long shot pulse rifle? CLEARLY YES.


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 Jadenim wrote:
Can they confirm that if Kroot upgrade to sniper rounds they get to choose which profile to use; the normal rifle or the sniper? The note in the summary section suggests this is the case but its not 100% explicit to me.

Read it again. How could it be any more explicit?! weapons marked with an * may choose which profile to use when firing.
Of course they can use both. This is why the upgrade is worded as them taking sniper rounds for their rifles, not replacing their kroot rifles with sniper rifles.

 Cheesedoodler wrote:

 BlueRift wrote:
Volley Fire:
Does Volley Fire also provide an additional shot for Longshot Pulse Rifles?

There's like a 90% chance that it doesn't, but I'd like to be sure.

Where are you getting that 90% from?

Volley Fire affects all PULSE weapons.
Is the LongShot pulse rifle a pulse weapon? YES.
Does volley fire give an extra shot to the Long shot pulse rifle? CLEARLY YES.

Here's where reading the rules helps. Volley Fire doesn't affect all Pulse Weapons, it affects only Pulse Rifles and Pulse Carbines. So the answer is clearly No, it doesn't affect Longshot Pulse Rifles, in the same way First Rank Fire, Second Rank Fire! doesn't affect Hotshot Lasguns.

Now the Ethereal's Storm of Fire on the other hand, that does affect all Pulse Weapons, excluding the Pulse bomb. So that will affect Longshot Pulse Rifles.

Chrysis wrote:

 Cheesedoodler wrote:

 BlueRift wrote:
Volley Fire:
Does Volley Fire also provide an additional shot for Longshot Pulse Rifles?

There's like a 90% chance that it doesn't, but I'd like to be sure.

Where are you getting that 90% from?

Volley Fire affects all PULSE weapons.
Is the LongShot pulse rifle a pulse weapon? YES.
Does volley fire give an extra shot to the Long shot pulse rifle? CLEARLY YES.

Here's where reading the rules helps. Volley Fire doesn't affect all Pulse Weapons, it affects only Pulse Rifles and Pulse Carbines. So the answer is clearly No, it doesn't affect Longshot Pulse Rifles, in the same way First Rank Fire, Second Rank Fire! doesn't affect Hotshot Lasguns.

Now the Ethereal's Storm of Fire on the other hand, that does affect all Pulse Weapons, excluding the Pulse bomb. So that will affect Longshot Pulse Rifles.

You've got me there. I was mixing the wording of the two rules.

Q: Does the Stealth Suit Shas'vre's markerlight/target lock upgrade also work on a fusion blaster upgrade?

Since fusion blaster is a "one model may" upgrade, I'd like to load him out with the markerlight/target lock, a fusion blaster and an advanced targeting system to either infiltrate and hit armor or snipe special weapons.

 Space Ghost wrote:
Q: Does the Stealth Suit Shas'vre's markerlight/target lock upgrade also work on a fusion blaster upgrade?

Yes, the only thing that gets replaced in any of that is the burst cannon. There's nothing ambiguous here.

Question regarding Vectored Retro-thrusters (VRT):

Can a unit of more than one model with VRT use the Hit and Run special rules to leave CC?

Per TE Codex:

A model with VRT has both Fleet and Hit and Run Special Rules.

Per 6th Ed Rulebook:

A unit that contains at least one model with this special rule that is locked in combat can choose to leave close combat
at the end of any Assault phase. If the unit wishes to do so, it must take an Initiative test.

Seems to me that by RAW the unit can attempt to leave CC. However, verification of this would be useful, since this equipment used to only apply to Monat (single suit units) in the old codex and you could only purchase one per army.

You asked and answered your own question.

How does a Model with Velocity tracker/Counter fire Defense system and Drone controller work When dealing with drones and Snapshots? Do the Drones fire at Ballistic skill 1 or do they continue to use the Drone controller's ballistic skill which is either unaffected or bs 2?

You can purchase a 2 man bodyguard team to go with your force Commander. Does this now prevent him from being able to join other units as an independent character, such as a drone unit?

hokieseas wrote:
You can purchase a 2 man bodyguard team to go with your force Commander. Does this now prevent him from being able to join other units as an independent character, such as a drone unit?

There is no requirement to have the IC join his bodyguard unit.

Literally every codex since the latter half of 4th edition has been this way.

So yes, if the IC joins his bodyguard he cannot join another unit at the same time (as he has already joined one).

hokieseas wrote:
You can purchase a 2 man bodyguard team to go with your force Commander. Does this now prevent him from being able to join other units as an independent character, such as a drone unit?

Bodyguards are now a completely separate unit to the commander. A bodyguard squad is simply a 1-2 man Crisis team.
You can take the bodyguard squad and a commander, but not join them together, in which case your commander is free to act as any independent character normally would.
If you deploy them with the commander in the bodyguard's unit, he has joined their unit and thus cannot join another unit without first leaving his bodyguards.


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Question:
Recon Drones don't explicitly have the supporting fire special rule. Do they inherit it from their Pathfinder unit?

Question:
The Tau Warlord Traits table says 'When generating Warlord Traits, a Commander or Ethereal may either roll on one of the Warlord Traits tables in the Warhammer 40,000 rule book, or roll on the table presented on the right".
Can Cadre Fireblades and Darkstrider take warlord traits from the table in the Tau book?

Trasvi wrote:

Question:
The Tau Warlord Traits table says 'When generating Warlord Traits, a Commander or Ethereal may either roll on one of the Warlord Traits tables in the Warhammer 40,000 rule book, or roll on the table presented on the right".
Can Cadre Fireblades and Darkstrider take warlord traits from the table in the Tau book?

Answered in the FAQ with replace this sentence with "When generating A Tau warlord's trait, you may either roll on the table here or on the Tables in the warhammer 40k rulebook."

Doh.

Ok another one brought up in a tactics thread. I think it is pretty pedantic, but oh well...

The multi-tracker allows you to 'fire an extra weapon each shooting phase.'
Does this ability also apply when Overwatching, or does it only apply to literally your own shooting phase?

Given literally every shooting attack is defined as occuring in the shooting phase, eithe they all work or they dont.

If a model has a twin linked weapon, and is In a unit with a command and control node, does the model get to Reroll to hit twice?

Basic rule is you may never reroll a reroll. So No.

Can seekers fired from Broadsides be fired at a separate target from the one the broadsides are targeting. The rule says they must fire at the same unit as the vehicle. Since you always have to fire at the same target with all weapons, this clause is either worthless or means broadside seekers can shoot another target.

I believe that might be a holdover from last edition: Previously seekers would be 'called in' by any unit against a target which has been marked, and had essentially nothing to do with the vehicle carrying the missile.
Now, it serves to show that you can't pick any random unit with a markerlight hit and launch a seeker at it: it's only from the carrying vehicle (or broadside) and only at the target they're already shooting.
Perhaps a bit redundant, but also useful to people who are used to the old rules.

GW has never made clarifications to older codex rules before. That is why this is so odd. Im inclined to believe that we are to ignore that sentence altogether, but until an FAQ says that, it is confusing

Interesting one popped up in one of my games today; the Ethereal's Storm of Fire power states that it can only be used once per turn, but is this player turn or game turn? I.e can you use it in your shooting phase and then also for over watch in your opponents assault phase? (If it's player turn based)

 Jadenim wrote:
Interesting one popped up in one of my games today; the Ethereal's Storm of Fire power states that it can only be used once per turn, but is this player turn or game turn? I.e can you use it in your shooting phase and then also for over watch in your opponents assault phase? (If it's player turn based)

The codex specifically says the units benefit from this power until the Ethereal's next movement phase, unless he is killed before then, which the power ends immediately. So, it would last all through your opponents following turn after you invoke the power.

 Jadenim wrote:
Interesting one popped up in one of my games today; the Ethereal's Storm of Fire power states that it can only be used once per turn, but is this player turn or game turn? I.e can you use it in your shooting phase and then also for over watch in your opponents assault phase? (If it's player turn based)

Not interesting, given the rulebook defines turn as player turn, unless specified otherwise. The Ethereals rule then specifies the duration.

Please do some basic rules research (just searching turn = player turn? would probably have done it) before posting here

Can MSS force you to use the Onager Gauntlet? If they can, does it reduce the random number of attacks to 1?

Question:
Can drones attached to a vehicle use overwatch and supporting fire? A cursory reading of the relevant rules doesn't seem to show any reason why they could not. However, the Point Defense Targeting Relay explicitly gives attached drones the ability to fire overwatch.
If the vehicle with a PDTR or Longstrike uses overwatch/supporting fire, are the drones forced to use overwatch/supporting fire at the same target? Or are they able to decline to overwatch, and use overwatch/supporting fire on another unit?
A drones attached to a vehicle with Longstrike able to use overwatch/supporting fire multiple times?

Trasvi wrote:
Question:
Can drones attached to a vehicle use overwatch and supporting fire? A cursory reading of the relevant rules doesn't seem to show any reason why they could not. However, the Point Defense Targeting Relay explicitly gives attached drones the ability to fire overwatch.
If the vehicle with a PDTR or Longstrike uses overwatch/supporting fire, are the drones forced to use overwatch/supporting fire at the same target? Or are they able to decline to overwatch, and use overwatch/supporting fire on another unit?
A drones attached to a vehicle with Longstrike able to use overwatch/supporting fire multiple times?

The Tau Codex says:

"This means that while they are attached, they can make shooting attacks as if they were passengers shooting from Fire Points..."

Reading in the Drone rules, all drone have the Supporting Fire special rule.

Reading the BRB under Transport:

"If a Transport vehicle is assaulted, an embarked unit can fire Overwatch at the attackers out of its Fire Points."

It is possible that since Hammerhead and Sky Rays don't have the Transport rule, their Drones can't fire Overwatch without the Point Defense Targeting Relay, though they do have embarked units so I'm not entirely sure.


For your question on shooting the same target or holding overwatch, probably not since it says that the Drone must shoot at the same target as the vehicle. The Devilfish may be able to get away with it with since it is a transport.

Support Fire with the Devilfish and Overwatch against assault with the drones.

Trasvi wrote:
Recon Drones don't explicitly have the supporting fire special rule. Do they inherit it from their Pathfinder unit?

Yea they do it's right above the "Turret Mounting" rule listed for all the special drones on pg.38, ofcourse the recon drone is the only one who actually benefits from it.

 megatrons2nd wrote:
Can MSS force you to use the Onager Gauntlet? If they can, does it reduce the random number of attacks to 1?

Yes and no: printed rules. No reasonable argument can be made otherwise.

 Cheesedoodler wrote:

HeadRipper wrote:
Can you use your firewarrior shas'ui markerlights before anything else fires with the target lock he also gets, meaning you can effectively have a "markerlight" phase before you shoot anything

This is an easy one: NO.

Re-read the rules on the shooting phase. You nominate a unit to shoot, and then do all the shooting from that unit. Once ALL the shooting from that unit is done, you move onto the next unit. The 'ui markerlight shot happens simultaneously with all the other shots from his unit.


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 BlueRift wrote:
Volley Fire:
Does Volley Fire also provide an additional shot for Longshot Pulse Rifles?

There's like a 90% chance that it doesn't, but I'd like to be sure.

Where are you getting that 90% from?

Volley Fire affects all PULSE weapons.
Is the LongShot pulse rifle a pulse weapon? YES.
Does volley fire give an extra shot to the Long shot pulse rifle? CLEARLY YES.


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 Jadenim wrote:
Can they confirm that if Kroot upgrade to sniper rounds they get to choose which profile to use; the normal rifle or the sniper? The note in the summary section suggests this is the case but its not 100% explicit to me.

Read it again. How could it be any more explicit?! weapons marked with an * may choose which profile to use when firing.
Of course they can use both. This is why the upgrade is worded as them taking sniper rounds for their rifles, not replacing their kroot rifles with sniper rifles.

1.) You are correct regarding the Shas'Ui markerlight, it is simultaneous, just at a different target.

2.) You are incorrect. THe VOlley FIre Special rule clearly states Pulse Rifles and Pulse Carbines, not Pulse Weapons

3.) You are correct, the key word is take, not exchange

 HoverBoy wrote:

Trasvi wrote:
Recon Drones don't explicitly have the supporting fire special rule. Do they inherit it from their Pathfinder unit?

Yea they do it's right above the "Turret Mounting" rule listed for all the special drones on pg.38, ofcourse the recon drone is the only one who actually benefits from it.

Lol. There I go looking at the fine print and missing the big huge 'special rules' underneath.


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Another Drone question:
If a model equipped with a Drone Controller is forced to snap fire, but drones in the same squad are not, what ballistic skill do the drones use?
As an example: A sniper drone team moves and the marksman elects to fire his markerlight as a snap shot. Do the drones then shoot at BS5 or BS1? RAW I believe it would be BS5, as only the bearer's *shot is resolved at BS1*, rather than the bearer being reduced to BS1, but the question did come up in a game.

They all still use his BS5, it's just that his own markerlight is resolved at BS1 for snapshot.