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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/08 18:41:32
Subject: 1750 CSM All Comers list
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Despised Traitorous Cultist
Northern Colorado, USA
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OK, so this is my first attempt at making a list. I have very few of the appropriate minis in this list, so once the list is concrete I'm going to be buying/ converting specifically for it. Because of that I'm pretty flexible on all of this, so let any and all criticisms fly. The one thing I want to stick to is that even though this specific list is pretty Nurgle heavy, I want it to be a Chaos Undivided army.
HQ:
Chaos Lord w/ power weapon & Combibolter
Chaos Bike, Mark of Nurgle, Ichor of Blood, = 123
Troops:
5 Plague Marines
2 Plasma Gun
inside a Chaos Rhino with a Havoc Launcher = 197
5 Plague Marines
2 Plasma Gun
inside a Chaos Rhino with a Havoc Launcher = 197
5 Plague Marines
2Plasma = 150
Fast Attack:
Heldrake w/ Baleflamer = 170
Heldrake w/ Autocannon = 170
3 Chaos Bikers
Mark of Nurgle = 88
Heavy Support:
3 Obliterators = 210
Chaos Landraider - 230
5 Havocs w/ 4 Autocannons = 115
Fortifications
Aegis Defense Line w/ Icarus Lascannon = 85
Total points should even out to exactly 1750.
This was originally supposed to be an "Anti-Loyalists" list, but with the changes that I've had to make I decided to change it to more of an "All Comers" list. I've taken VotLW off of everyone. I've taken away all the Melta bombs that the various champions had.
This way I can include the 2 Heldrakes and own the skies, if I have anyone spamming fliers I've got the Oblits, Havocs, and Icarus cannon to take them down.
I went with the icarus instead of the quad gun because of the additional armour penetration and if I'm going up against armored vehicle spam instead of fliers I can put it somewhere it'll have long lines of sight and clear one side of the board from heavy support threats. I can also keep at least one objective completely defended with the lascannon and 4 autocannons.
thoughts?
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This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2013/04/13 19:03:40
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/08 19:52:45
Subject: Re:1750 CSM Anti-Loyalists list.
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Despised Traitorous Cultist
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You could try giving the plague marines either plamsa gun or melta gun, not both. This is better because you can target one unit and do damage than to waste one gun while using the other and visa verca. I'd go with both with double plasma guns as they are walking and may never be in range for the melta gun to work.
If you get rid of a few upgrades you can give the bikers a meltagun and get the plasma guns for the plague marines.
If the chaos lord is going with the bikers you may want to beef them up, otherwise they will die and so will the lord.
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Total Iron Warriors: 2500pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/09 20:48:58
Subject: 1750 CSM Anti-Loyalists list.
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Despised Traitorous Cultist
Northern Colorado, USA
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I'll have to look into what options I can put on the bikers. I guess I was counting on Toughness 6 to have them weather the storm.
I also did the math on a second option, I can strip away VotLW from all the units, reduce some unit sizes and that would give me enough points to get a second Heldrake.
Should I go that direction instead?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/09 21:46:02
Subject: 1750 CSM Anti-Loyalists list.
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Yes.
I was going to suggest more troops of plague.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/09 23:19:44
Subject: 1750 CSM Anti-Loyalists list.
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Despised Traitorous Cultist
Northern Colorado, USA
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Filch wrote:Yes.
I was going to suggest more troops of plague.
Do you mean scrapping the upgrades and the cultists and adding another unit of Plague marines? Relying more on the number of boots on the ground instead of the better leadership, etc. granted by VotLW?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/10 00:48:25
Subject: 1750 CSM Anti-Loyalists list.
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Plague marines are fearless. I think you and qw would want to buy another drake instead. IMHO I would rather have more troops occupying as many slots before I increase squad size.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/10 17:44:41
Subject: 1750 CSM Anti-Loyalists list.
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Despised Traitorous Cultist
Northern Colorado, USA
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OK, I revamped some things last night, the original post has been revised with the new list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/10 18:53:11
Subject: 1750 CSM Anti-Loyalists list.
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Beast of Nurgle
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The black mace is a nice weapon for sure, but it really only shines when equipped on a daemon prince. On a lord it's just AP4 and that's just not worth it's cost, give him an power weapon and give yourself more points for the rest of your army. I would also make smaller groups of plague marines and take more groups. They are pretty tough little marines and one of their advantages is taking two special weapons per 5 man squad. So make three groups of 5 and you can have 2 more plasma guns.
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I love Warhammer 40000 and if you want to try to spoil that for me, or impose your own vision of it onto mine, then you can go suck a lemon. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/13 19:04:08
Subject: 1750 CSM All Comers list
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Despised Traitorous Cultist
Northern Colorado, USA
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List updated in the first post again, significantly changed.
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