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I regularly butt heads with fellow dakkanauts on this... but, this takes the cake.
I believe that the current Media culture is going through a massive "media bias" epidemic. We will see that this will change in the next couple of years as the majority of our population because more and more tech savvy, much to the dismay of the old guard news network (ABC, NBC, etc...).
This is the most egregious example that I can remember:
Spoiler:
We've forgotten what belongs on Page One.
Butchering babies that were already born and were older than the state's 24-week limit for abortions is the story.
That one is murder and the other is a legal procedure is morally irreconcilable.
This is not about being "pro-choice" or "pro-life." It is about basic human rights.
Infant beheadings. Severed baby feet in jars. A child screaming after it was delivered alive during an abortion procedure. Haven't heard about these sickening accusations?
It's not your fault. Since the murder trial of Pennsylvania abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell began March 18, there has been precious little coverage of the case that should be on every news show and front page. The revolting revelations of Gosnell's former staff, who have been testifying to what they witnessed and did during late-term abortions, should shock anyone with a heart.
NBC-10 Philadelphia reported that, Stephen Massof, a former Gosnell worker, "described how he snipped the spinal cords of babies, calling it, 'literally a beheading. It is separating the brain from the body." One former worker, Adrienne Moton, testified that Gosnell taught her his "snipping" technique to use on infants born alive.
Massof, who, like other witnesses, has himself pleaded guilty to serious crimes, testified "It would rain fetuses. Fetuses and blood all over the place." Here is the headline the Associated Press put on a story about his testimony that he saw 100 babies born and then snipped: "Staffer describes chaos at PA abortion clinic."
"Chaos" isn't really the story here. Butchering babies that were already born and were older than the state's 24-week limit for abortions is the story. There is a reason the late Democratic senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan called this procedure infanticide.
Planned Parenthood recently claimed that the possibility of infants surviving late-term abortions was "highly unusual." The Gosnell case suggests otherwise.
Regardless of such quibbles, about whether Gosnell was killing the infants one second after they left the womb instead of partially inside or completely inside the womb — as in a routine late-term abortion — is merely a matter of geography. That one is murder and the other is a legal procedure is morally irreconcilable.
A Lexis-Nexis search shows none of the news shows on the three major national television networks has mentioned the Gosnell trial in the last three months. The exception is when Wall Street Journal columnist Peggy Noonan hijacked a segment on Meet the Press meant to foment outrage over an anti-abortion rights law in some backward red state.
The Washington Post has not published original reporting on this during the trial and The New York Times saw fit to run one original story on A-17 on the trial's first day. They've been silent ever since, despite headline-worthy testimony.
Let me state the obvious. This should be front page news. When Rush Limbaugh attacked Sandra Fluke, there was non-stop media hysteria. The venerable NBC Nightly News' Brian Williams intoned, "A firestorm of outrage from women after a crude tirade from Rush Limbaugh," as he teased a segment on the brouhaha. Yet, accusations of babies having their heads severed — a major human rights story if there ever was one — doesn't make the cut.
You don't have to oppose abortion rights to find late-term abortion abhorrent or to find the Gosnell trial eminently newsworthy. This is not about being "pro-choice" or "pro-life." It's about basic human rights.
The deafening silence of too much of the media, once a force for justice in America, is a disgrace.
Yep. Its gettying worse. I used to enjoy WAPO for a nice counterpoint, but its gone beyond being slanted to being a straight ra ra mouthpiece for the DNC.
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This thread gets the obvious award
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Grundz wrote: It doesn't help that reality has a liberal bias as well
According to the laws of thermodynamics, your statement is, in addition to being nonsensical and unoriginal as it was stolen from Comedy Central, is incorrect.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Grundz wrote: It doesn't help that reality has a liberal bias as well
According to the laws of thermodynamics, your statement is, in addition to being nonsensical and unoriginal as it was stolen from Comedy Central, is incorrect.
Nice one
Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
Grundz wrote: It doesn't help that reality has a liberal bias as well
According to the laws of thermodynamics, your statement is, in addition to being nonsensical and unoriginal as it was stolen from Comedy Central, is incorrect.
What, is this pack as many big words into your post so you can feel less unimportant day?
the answer is simple, you want brand loyalty, in order to have brand loyalty you need to adjust your message to what the wedge issues of your target audience is, keeping in mind that negative "oh no you didn't!" BS wells much better than positive. Its been a long time since anyone has read, watched, or researched the news in search of knowledge, its just idiotic entertainment now.
You can have your thread back though, and go back to trumpeting laws written by for-profit prison corps to funnel more "customers" over to them.
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it do exists? Sorry can't take you seriously with a subject line like that...
anyway, no news stroy can be completely neutral. A good journalist is trying to call readers to action, and a bland, 100% neutral story would never do that.
Something we wouldn't know anything about if it weren't for academics, which is a hotbed of liberal activity and no good hippies.
And the sign says 'long haired freaky people need not apply'.....
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
SoloFalcon1138 wrote: it do exists? Sorry can't take you seriously with a subject line like that...
anyway, no news stroy can be completely neutral. A good journalist is trying to call readers to action, and a bland, 100% neutral story would never do that.
LOL... fixed. I had this written like 3 times as dakka is being weird now (honestly, must be my internet).
SoloFalcon1138 wrote: it do exists? Sorry can't take you seriously with a subject line like that...
anyway, no news stroy can be completely neutral. A good journalist is trying to call readers to action, and a bland, 100% neutral story would never do that.
Of course news can be neutral.
The problem is that news these days is a form of entertainment.
The problem is that news these days is a form of entertainment.
I think these days that is the crux of the matter. That's why there seems to be the recent trend of less fact checking and more knee-jerk reporting because there is more incentive to be the first with a report, rather than to have an accurate report
Fox News gets lambasted for having Republicans aides from previous administrations, while MSNBC hires former Obama aides without anywhere near the same reaction. This is why I read a few sources of news from differing points of view, because the facts are often somewhere in the middle.
Fox News gets lambasted for having Republicans aides from previous administrations, while MSNBC hires former Obama aides without anywhere near the same reaction. This is why I read a few sources of news from differing points of view, because the facts are often somewhere in the middle.
This kind of sentiment is not welcome at Dakka - edited mt11
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Fox News gets lambasted for having Republicans aides from previous administrations, while MSNBC hires former Obama aides without anywhere near the same reaction. This is why I read a few sources of news from differing points of view, because the facts are often somewhere in the middle.
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Tell us how you really feel?
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Fox News gets lambasted for having Republicans aides from previous administrations, while MSNBC hires former Obama aides without anywhere near the same reaction. This is why I read a few sources of news from differing points of view, because the facts are often somewhere in the middle.
Please do not quote rule breaking posts, thanks MT11
Why do you dislike Johnson so much?
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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What?
Did you type that with a straight face? Because if you did... I just have no words for that.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Bias in the media has existed forever. Just take a look at how the papers treated George Washington during the Revolution.
They were downright nasty. I don't think libel was a thing back then...
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Whoooo, someone's looking to start a flamewar, aren't they?
Anyway...
I expect this is because of the associations people make with the two parties, especially given the strong feelings DubyaBush instigates in certain quarters of the US' political life.
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Melissia wrote:Stopping power IS a deterrent. The bigger a hole you put in them the more deterred they are.
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As long as news is presented by a business, there will be bias. It's not rocket science.
1) News corporations sell advertising, and to sell advertising you need ratings. 2) To get ratings, you need people to watch your shows. 3) Most people don't watch news to learn. They already "know X and just want their news to reinforce that x is right". 4) To get those viewers you pander to them by presenting them news in a way that reinforces their world view. 5) Bias = Profit
Want to get the "media is controlled by liberals and reptiles/aliens/vatican/jews/old people crowd"? = Drudge Report Want the "I love Reagan" crowd and the "I know that Romney can still win crowd"? = FoxNews Want the "I'm a liberal but I want to be outraged too" crowd = MSNBC Want the "I'm a moderate, but I also like cute cat videos" crowd = CNN
We could go all day with this.
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d-usa wrote: As long as news is presented by a business, there will be bias. It's not rocket science.
1) News corporations sell advertising, and to sell advertising you need ratings.
2) To get ratings, you need people to watch your shows.
3) Most people don't watch news to learn. They already "know X and just want their news to reinforce that x is right".
4) To get those viewers you pander to them by presenting them news in a way that reinforces their world view.
5) Bias = Profit
Want to get the "media is controlled by liberals and reptiles/aliens/vatican/jews/old people crowd"? = Drudge Report
Want the "I love Reagan" crowd and the "I know that Romney can still win crowd"? = FoxNews
Want the "I'm a liberal but I want to be outraged too" crowd = MSNBC
Want the "I'm a moderate, but I also like cute cat videos" crowd = CNN
We could go all day with this.
You're absolutely right... I was just venting about the lack of "attention" to Kermit Grosnell... I mean... it can't get anymore sensational that THAT. And yet, not a peep.... because it deals with the "abortion plank".
And yet, Limbaugh calls Sandra Fluke a slut and it's news 24/7. (not that I really blame the news folks)
d-usa wrote: As long as news is presented by a business, there will be bias. It's not rocket science.
1) News corporations sell advertising, and to sell advertising you need ratings.
2) To get ratings, you need people to watch your shows.
3) Most people don't watch news to learn. They already "know X and just want their news to reinforce that x is right".
4) To get those viewers you pander to them by presenting them news in a way that reinforces their world view.
5) Bias = Profit
Want to get the "media is controlled by liberals and reptiles/aliens/vatican/jews/old people crowd"? = Drudge Report
Want the "I love Reagan" crowd and the "I know that Romney can still win crowd"? = FoxNews
Want the "I'm a liberal but I want to be outraged too" crowd = MSNBC
Want the "I'm a moderate, but I also like cute cat videos" crowd = CNN
We could go all day with this.
You're absolutely right... I was just venting about the lack of "attention" to Kermit Grosnell... I mean... it can't get anymore sensational that THAT. And yet, not a peep.... because it deals with the "abortion plank".
And yet, Limbaugh calls Sandra Fluke a slut and it's news 24/7. (not that I really blame the news folks)
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Shespits "Anything i see with YOLO has half naked eleventeen year olds Girls. And of course booze and drugs and more half naked elventeen yearolds Girls. O how i wish to YOLO again!"
Rubiksnoob "Next you'll say driving a stick with a Scandinavian supermodel on your lap while ripping a bong impairs your driving. And you know what, I'M NOT GOING TO STOP, YOU FILTHY COMMUNIST"
you then sell that news to outlets so they can put their own slant on it.
Bias can still be in reuters reports like when they mention how many women and children died as though somehow women and children matter more than men ( i know the reasoning behind this style of reporting I'm just trying to show that even in a "neutral " organisation bias still exists).
Manchu - "But so what? The Bible also says the flood destroyed the world. You only need an allegorical boat to tackle an allegorical flood."
Shespits "Anything i see with YOLO has half naked eleventeen year olds Girls. And of course booze and drugs and more half naked elventeen yearolds Girls. O how i wish to YOLO again!"
Rubiksnoob "Next you'll say driving a stick with a Scandinavian supermodel on your lap while ripping a bong impairs your driving. And you know what, I'M NOT GOING TO STOP, YOU FILTHY COMMUNIST"
Bullockist wrote: you then sell that news to outlets so they can put their own slant on it.
Bias can still be in reuters reports like when they mention how many women and children died as though somehow women and children matter more than men ( i know the reasoning behind this style of reporting I'm just trying to show that even in a "neutral " organisation bias still exists).
It's a fair point. Choice of words is often as important to the "stance" of an article or report as the presentation of the subject of it.
Melissia wrote:Stopping power IS a deterrent. The bigger a hole you put in them the more deterred they are.
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Even though the onion has a fairly liberal bias, it's also an equal
opportunity hater.
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