Kain wrote:

 Squigsquasher wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Squigsquasher wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
As many deny the Prequels, so to do I deny AOE online.

I deny Metroid: Other M, Supreme Commander 2, and Command and Conquer 4.

I deny that people get so pissy over works of fiction that they deny that they exist.

What was wrong with those games, anyway? They were all pretty good to the best of my knowledge.

Other M: Blatant sexism, character rape, and turning a strong independent female character, the very first in video games in fact, into a submissive emo who needed the approval of a man before activating an upgrade that would stop her from roasting to death. And then the creator went and said this is how women should be like. No, screw you Sakamoto, you are not defiling an Icon to women with your creepy misogyny.

Supreme Commander 2: Blatantly dumbing down the game to make it playable on consoles and gutting the primary draw of Supreme Commander in the first place, scale and modability.

C&C 4: Threw out EVERY LAST FETHING ASPECT OF THE COMMAND AND CONQUER FORMULA. EVERY LAST FETHING THING THAT MADE THE SERIES UNIQUE WAS THROWN OUT TO GIVE US A HALF ARSED STARCRAFT RIP OFF THAT DIDN'T EVEN ADDRESS THE GOD DAMN ALIEN INVASION THE THIRD GAME SET US UP FOR!

Also the reviews for Other M and C&C 4 were mediocre to bad from professional critics, while players almost universally tongue lashed them for being blatant betrayals of the series that spawned them.

Not defending misogyny here, but with regards to Other M (which I haven't played, don't kill me) I thought it was a prequel to the other games, and depicted Samus as she was when she was new in the field, and not a total hardass.

I suppose that could give some credibility for making her a lot more emotional and less "badass". Also, I think the "I don't have permission to use this yet" had less to do with gender roles and more to do with the guy being her superior officer.

Like I say, I haven't played the game, so please don't shove a Morph Ball up my arse.

And not meaning to be a pedant, but what about the gameplay itself? Was that any good?

Prequel? It's the second to last game chronologically. Over a half decade after zero mission.

And he's not her superior officer, she's a freelance operative who's only on the ship because she wants to and can leave at any time. He has literally no authority over her. He has not had any authority over her since she left the Federation military at age fifteen, which by this point in the series was over a decade in the past.

And the actual prequel mangas show that she managed to come to terms with her past (still burning with a fury towards the Space Pirate race that would make a khorne berzerker piss himself in fear) before Zero Mission, and constructively projects her anger and grief rather than let it rule her.

 Squigsquasher wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Squigsquasher wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Squigsquasher wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
As many deny the Prequels, so to do I deny AOE online.

I deny Metroid: Other M, Supreme Commander 2, and Command and Conquer 4.

I deny that people get so pissy over works of fiction that they deny that they exist.

What was wrong with those games, anyway? They were all pretty good to the best of my knowledge.

Other M: Blatant sexism, character rape, and turning a strong independent female character, the very first in video games in fact, into a submissive emo who needed the approval of a man before activating an upgrade that would stop her from roasting to death. And then the creator went and said this is how women should be like. No, screw you Sakamoto, you are not defiling an Icon to women with your creepy misogyny.

Supreme Commander 2: Blatantly dumbing down the game to make it playable on consoles and gutting the primary draw of Supreme Commander in the first place, scale and modability.

C&C 4: Threw out EVERY LAST FETHING ASPECT OF THE COMMAND AND CONQUER FORMULA. EVERY LAST FETHING THING THAT MADE THE SERIES UNIQUE WAS THROWN OUT TO GIVE US A HALF ARSED STARCRAFT RIP OFF THAT DIDN'T EVEN ADDRESS THE GOD DAMN ALIEN INVASION THE THIRD GAME SET US UP FOR!

Also the reviews for Other M and C&C 4 were mediocre to bad from professional critics, while players almost universally tongue lashed them for being blatant betrayals of the series that spawned them.

Not defending misogyny here, but with regards to Other M (which I haven't played, don't kill me) I thought it was a prequel to the other games, and depicted Samus as she was when she was new in the field, and not a total hardass.

I suppose that could give some credibility for making her a lot more emotional and less "badass". Also, I think the "I don't have permission to use this yet" had less to do with gender roles and more to do with the guy being her superior officer.

Like I say, I haven't played the game, so please don't shove a Morph Ball up my arse.

And not meaning to be a pedant, but what about the gameplay itself? Was that any good?

Prequel? It's the second to last game chronologically. Over a half decade after zero mission.

And he's not her superior officer, she's a freelance operative who's only on the ship because she wants to and can leave at any time. He has literally no authority over her. He has not had any authority over her since she left the Federation military at age fifteen, which by this point in the series was over a decade in the past.

And the actual prequel mangas show that she managed to come to terms with her past (still burning with a fury towards the Space Pirate race that would make a khorne berzerker piss himself in fear) before Zero Mission, and constructively projects her anger and grief rather than let it rule her.

Oww....That's bad.

Hopefully the next Metroid game will make up for it.

Anyway, back to the topic of Star Wars and the unfairly hated prequels.