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 Sean_OBrien wrote:
Palladium actually produces a good value for content if you look at page count versus price.

The phone book has even better page count versus price value but neither it nor Palladium RPG books succeed at creating a comprehensive or comprehensible ruleset. :(


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Cypher-xv wrote:
Does this mean I add extra $ to the $140 to get the other destroid models?

Yup. It's a paid add-on only. Although I think we all know what it'll be, I'd wait the hour or two till its officially "unlocked" before changing it personally.

Cypher, yup. Say you have a $140 pledge and you want to add on $75 worth of add-ons, you just up your pledge to $215 but keep the $140 pledge level selected.

First stretch as a paid add-on?

That's a bold move.

This is going to be a long and potentially expensive campaign...

Yes.

If you are in for the $140 pledge...you will select that option, but then add the extra $20 or whatever to you pledge. If a week from now, there are an extra $40 worth of stuff...you then edit your pledge to include the $140 of your pledge level (still just selecting the $140 option) but adding in the additional funds to you pledge amount for a total of $200.


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 Alpharius wrote:
First stretch as a paid add-on?

That's a bold move.

This is going to be a long and potentially expensive campaign...

Considering it is still bankers hours in the US and they are ticking up in pledge amounts fairly steadily...I think it might be a solid record breaker in the end. Expect it to explode in a couple of hours as people get off from work.

More options then you can shake a really big stick at...and lots of sore credit cards.

No real news about the accompanying rules unfortunately. I was hoping for a gameplay video but they may be holding off the real details besides just the flattering platitudes by the creators due to the overwhelmingly negative reaction Palladium's rules generally get if they're compatible with the RPG. A friend zoomed in on the stat cards in the video and it seems that they may be the RPG stats divided by ten.

I'm surprised at how quickly the first goal was met. They may make their first stretch goal by the end of the work day. I'm wondering what stretch goal number the M.A.C. II monsters are in. I want a horde of those....

Even if the MAC II's aren't fully to scale (being roughly twice the height and thus several times the size) to the other destroids, those things would likely be utterly massive. Wouldn't be surprised if they were more like a $15 apiece add on, rather than 2 for $20 the others are.

But that's completely pulled from my butt, and I do hope they make it into the campaign.

Given that we're already only 5k away from the first stretch unlocking, I've got a good feeling about our progress.

They will be demoing Robotech tomorrow at Adepticon. So we should here news then about the game play.

The Monster is HUGE. I wouldn't not be surprised if it was $30-$40.

We have seen some of the miniatures at GAMMA. They were top notch. We cannot wait to paint them up ourselves and game with them.

 warboss wrote:
Cardboard Dropzone Commander Buildings

I was thinking MDF from Game Craft. I just received a pile of their 15mm scifi modular range that I plan to break into this weekend. Will post a review as/when. In the meantime, their 6mm range (with some stuff available in acrylic) seems very affordable ...

http://store.gcmshop.com/c/34/1285th-scale-6mm

 warboss wrote:
I was hoping for a gameplay video

Dakka is on it:

 cincydooley wrote:
I think they're demoing this at Adepticon. If so, ill report in tomorrow.

 judgedoug wrote:
The Monster is HUGE. I wouldn't not be surprised if it was $30-$40.

$30 - $40 sounds totally reasonable to me ... I would be pleased if it were that low.

 Manchu wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Cardboard Dropzone Commander Buildings

I was thinking MDF from Game Craft. I just received a pile of their 15mm scifi modular range that I plan to break into this weekend. Will post a review as/when. In the meantime, their 6mm range (with some stuff available in acrylic) seems very affordable ...

The 6mm stuff is affordable for what you get but definitely more than the downtown city you get for $35 (albeit cardstock and out of scale).


Is it just me or did the timeline for this project just change? It initially said the stuff would be done around 45 days after the end of the kickstarter but now has a delivery date of December under the pledge levels.

Head to manufacturing within 45 days.

The Robotech® RPG Tactics™ Kickstarter helps Palladium to fund the launch of a compelling and expanding game line designed specifically for Robotech® fans and gamers.

Six months of product development has produced nearly two dozen gorgeous sculptures (with more to come), a mountain of artwork, and game rules that have been play-tested by more than 100 Robotech fans and gamers to ensure we make Robotech® RPG Tactics™ everything you could want.

Once the Kickstarter reaches our funding goal, we have a host of fantastic upgrades, additional game pieces and new unit add-ons to unlock! Every Destroid. More Zentraedi mecha. More fun!

And because so much is DONE, this project should go into manufacturing within 45 days after the Kickstarter! That’s fast.

I'm rather surprised that they're using the original Macross names for some of these units rather than the actual Robotech ones. Since when are the fighters in Robotech no longer Veritechs? That's really odd.

I really don't want to back this KS since A)it's Palladium, B)it's Robotech, thus money going to Harmony Gold and C)they really screwed over Paulson, but it is really hard to resist those Destroids. Spartans and Phalanxes never get the love they deserve. It'd be even harder if they were to throw in some armored Zentradi foot soldiers and Meltrandi powered armor. And If Invid start getting thrown in? And I'm one of those rare, weird people who really likes the Southern Cross designs. I absolutely have to pledge if those get models.

You know what else could get me to back this? If they made some of the really obscure units, like the Lancer II space fighter seen in the first couple of episodes of Macross. Or the Dragon and Karyovin fighters. Or maybe a fleet based game with ARMD carriers and Zentradi battle cruisers.

 warboss wrote:
Is it just me or did the timeline for this project just change? It initially said the stuff would be done around 45 days after the end of the kickstarter but now has a delivery date of December under the pledge levels.

At the time of my pledge (i.e., right before my first post ITT) it said December 2013.


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First goal met:



Second goal:

Once we reach $125k all pledges of Battle Cry or above will receive the models in the teaser below for free!

Roy?

only one antennae in that pic, so I'm betting Ben/Max VF-1A

 Barzam wrote:
I'm rather surprised that they're using the original Macross names for some of these units rather than the actual Robotech ones. Since when are the fighters in Robotech no longer Veritechs? That's really odd.

I really don't want to back this KS since A)it's Palladium, B)it's Robotech, thus money going to Harmony Gold and C)they really screwed over Paulson, but it is really hard to resist those Destroids. Spartans and Phalanxes never get the love they deserve. It'd be even harder if they were to throw in some armored Zentradi foot soldiers and Meltrandi powered armor. And If Invid start getting thrown in? And I'm one of those rare, weird people who really likes the Southern Cross designs. I absolutely have to pledge if those get models.

You know what else could get me to back this? If they made some of the really obscure units, like the Lancer II space fighter seen in the first couple of episodes of Macross. Or the Dragon and Karyovin fighters. Or maybe a fleet based game with ARMD carriers and Zentradi battle cruisers.

The original Macross names ARE the Robotech names. They're called the Macross names in the show. What happened was Matchbox invented names and Palladium used them originally, and has confused everything since then. Your best bet is to forget about the 'Excalibur' and 'Raidar X' and that nonsense.

Valkyries are Veritechs. The VF Valkyrie is the series of Veritech fighters. The Spartas Hovertank is a Veritech as well.

 Barzam wrote:
I'm rather surprised that they're using the original Macross names for some of these units rather than the actual Robotech ones. Since when are the fighters in Robotech no longer Veritechs? That's really odd.

They've made a concerted effort at harmony gold to return to the original macross names which is why even in the rereleased RPG they changed the name as well. You won't see alot of references to veritechs and RDF or other americanized terms in this likely as well. It is likely though that you'll catch me occasionally using those now disavowed terms though as that is what I grew up knowing them as.

@Judge and Manchu: I guess I missed that December date. I must have been so happy about that 45 day note that I just assumed it would be out by GenCon/Late Summer.


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 cincydooley wrote:
I think they're demoing this at Adepticon. If so, ill report in tomorrow.

Cool, thanks. Are you familiar with the palladium RPG system to know if it's compatible or related to it? If not, Palladium is a by product of AD&D and uses a mix of d20 style mechanics to attack (roll d20 add/subtract modifiers and the opponent rolls an opposing d20 to dodge/parry) but percentiles for skills (pilot veritech skill is 45% base + 5% per level, roll under on d100 to succeed). It looks like the dice are d6 in the video but with a custom zentraedi face at a minimum.

Well, Kai Nesbit plugged the campaign on his Hell Dorado campaign's updates and said that Cipher are behind the rules (at least in part), so if you've played Anima Tactics you'll know that they are quite good at game design for fun, fast-paced games. This game is going to be a lot of fun, I bet!

Also, my sister-in-law is a MASSIVE Robotech fan, so I think this is going to be her Christmas present

When is this game supposed to come out?

I'm wondering what stretch level will have Skull 1. Personally, I'd like a Max VF-1J

Well there past 100k. Here's to reaching 125k before the day is over.

Cypher-xv wrote:
When is this game supposed to come out?

KS delivery estimated to be December 2013.

 Barzam wrote:
I'm one of those rare, weird people who really likes the Southern Cross designs. I absolutely have to pledge if those get models.

I can verify this to be true. You are one of a very select minority in that regard.

Now the bad guy bio armor things that rode around on the DoDai looking flying discs like a bunch of red Goufs? Those I liked.

I'm in if those dude show up.

Or your Meltrandi.

Mr. Siembieda said in the interview warboss posted that he wants to do miniatures from all three series.

I'll probably pledge the Battle Cry level and then up the pledge if Queadlunn-Rau, VF-1S Supers, and Monsters get unlocked.


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 Manchu wrote:
Mr. Siembieda said in the interview warboss posted that he wants to miniatures from all three series.

They'd have be done in different scales.

Cyclones, Logans, and Alphas would wind up too small for meaningful detail.

RogueRegault wrote:
I'll probably pledge the Battle Cry level and then up the pledge if Queadlunn-Rau, VF-1S Supers, and Monsters get unlocked.


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 Manchu wrote:
Mr. Siembieda said in the interview warboss posted that he wants to miniatures from all three series.

They'd have be done in different scales.

Cyclones, Logans, and Alphas would wind up too small for meaningful detail.

Disagree. GHQ's 1/285 stuff is amazingly detailed. And they've already stated all will be done to be played against each other.

You guys do realize that the Battle Cry level includes all unlocked stretch goals, right?

BATTLE CRY PLEDGE LEVEL INCLUDES:
Full color, 90+ page, softcover rulebook
24 Battle Dice
40 color game cards (unit cards, etc)
1x Rick Hunter SE Veritech
6x VF-1A Veritech Valkyries (in Fighter, Guardian, and Battloid modes)
1x VF-1J "Officer" in all three modes
2x Destroids (includes parts to make them Tomahawks, Defenders, or one of each)
18x Regult Zentraedi Battlepods
1x Glaug Officer's Battlepod
1/285th scale, high quality, multi-pose plastic game pieces.
All Unlocked Stretch Goals
For those of you looking to maximize your free goodies, Battle Cry is the pledge to have. Battle Cry pledges will receive all future unlocked free stretch goals.

I thought this was gonna be the Robotech Battles game a buddy of mine made, but he just said it's not .. he was still part of the development though so that's something.

dilema now is... spend my cash on my secret weapon board, or this one? can't do both :/

Was never a huge Robotech fan but the models look good. Can't they do robots based on more modern planes, instead of Top Gun stuff? Or is it sacrilege to even think it?

vitae_drinker wrote:
You guys do realize that the Battle Cry level includes all unlocked FREE stretch goals, right?

Corrected that for you. It does not include the paid add ons which currently make up 1 of the 2 unlocks so far.