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Per the owners of the KS, you will be able to add money for add-ons with the pledge manager...they just won't drive up the total KS pledge as it will be over. So pledge for the level you want, pledge extra for the add-ons you know you want (so the overall pledge goes up and we maximize our stretch bonuses and add-on options), and you can increase the total for what you want with the pledge manager once the KS is over.
In effect, if you pledge a $1, you can add money after the fact and buy whatever, just like it was a store. But it won't impact the net kickstarter growth.
Only money committed during the KS drives the expansion. I'm not sure what add-ons I want yet. So I pledged Battle Cry plus $200 for the add-ons I expect I'll want (and the bag) as a rough estimate. If they keep driving the add-ons for the FPA and Valk alternates, I may bump that a bit further. But I'll try and do it before 10 PM on 20 May to make sure the freebies and options are maxed.
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I will attempt to find a link and/or the site it was posted on.
I was going to spend some money on another kickstarter that is doing well. But Robotech has impressed me much and seems like this Kickstarter has the right focus. Just added another 200 dollars to me pledge. Also the movie announcement helped too.
Just read that press release. G&G have impressed the socks of me. Expect at least 2 Anime war boards from me for a pledge. Enough time to pledge in June or July for their launch too without having to split my cash to either kickstarters.
As following G&G that is when they will launch their boards Kickstatrter. I think it will be huge . Good on them!
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We would strongly suggest to back this awesome kickstarter. We saw the models at GAMMA and were super impressed and thought it was a no brainer to join forces with ND. We have pledged for SHOW DOWN. For us it is all about Robotech mass battles!! It seems like the Pledges with the unlocks keep getting sweeter. As for the Press Release. We are super excited. We have industry artists working on some beautiful designs. Right now though lets kick in more with this kickstarter as it about mass battles on awesome battle boards soon .
Kalamadea wrote: Yeah, nice character cards are actually exactly what I want for the character mechs. Leave the unique modeling to the painbrush, but give them super awesome abilities to make them stand out in the game! I never meant to argue against special characters in the game, if that's how it came across, just that the models don't need to be special. Even the skull and bones symbol would be fine as a decal, and possibly better since you could then make the entire Skull Squadron out of normal VTs.
As for Deadzone mats, maybe. I'm actually leaning more toward the Dropzone Commander mat and Buildings. They're 10mm, but be close enough. I don't actually expect to get much gaming in, the only buddy that loves robotech anywhere near as much as I do lives 2 hours away and the ones I play with all the time have utterly no interest in this outside of Battletech.
The problem with characters in Macross/ Robotech is that they're insanely overpowered. Max and Miriya, for example, could probably solo (duo?) the entire RDF without breaking a sweat.
After the Zentradi have destroyed 90% of the Earth you have the survivors trying to make peace with the surviving Zentradi, and the Zentradi themselves trying to get used to a life without war.
Minmei is with her alcholic abusive cousin, giving concerts to a few dozen people in one horse towns, and Kyron has barely enough fuel to keep his handful of mechs running.
Even the Rick/Minmei/Lisa triangle is handled well, Rick is an idiot, but a realistic one. I've seen and done much dumber things for a girl.
It's a very mature, very cool arc. I hated it as a kid but now I see it as a brilliant move. Totally subverting the earlier heroism and underlining the cost of war.
Anyway it raises some new model ideas...
Like how about Kyron riding a Monster Piggyback!
Then Amazona (or whatever her name is) piggyback on an officer's pod!
paulson games wrote: Not really, they assumed that they had the rights, turns out they snuck the book out while HG was basically asleep at the wheel and they had to yank all those books from publication. HG only "owns" the parent rights to the original macross series. (Clash of the Bionoids and Genesis Diver aka Mospeda).
What does Clash of the Bionoids have to do with anything? That's the first that I've heard that HG owns the rights to that.
and Genesis Climber Mospeada is not a Macross series.
Sorry, what you said doesn't make sense so I'm trying to figure out if there's something I hadn't known about HG...
Those form the material that is used for the expanded Robotech arcs 2 & 3, by mixing those series they with Macrss they created Southerncross arc and Mospeada arc which are part of the Robotech trilogy even though they have nothing to do with the original Japanese macross series. Palladium has said they'd expand the game to cover those arcs as well (once the macross arc if taken care of)
Okay, you're confused. Clash of the Bionoids is a cut, dubbed version of Macross Ai Oboete Imasuka, which Harmony Gold has no rights to.
Super Dimension Cavalry Southern Cross and Genesis Climber Mospeada, which are not related to Macross, are the second and third arcs of Robotech. You had said, quote, HG owns the parent rights to the Macross series (Clash of the Bionoids and Genesis Diver aka Mospeda), unquote. Again, CotB is not part of Robotech in the least bit, and Genesis _Climber_ Mospeada is not a Macross series.
Good luck... Yamato went out of business a month ago. All of the Yamato toys have doubled to tripled in price. The 1/60 Miriya Super Valkyrie just sold for over $700 on ebay. I believe the SDF-1 is worth over 2 grand now.
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke
The problem with characters in Macross/ Robotech is that they're insanely overpowered. Max and Miriya, for example, could probably solo (duo?) the entire RDF without breaking a sweat.
Weclome to Plot Armor, standard storytelling trope. As much as I absolutely adore the series, I actually think MOSPEADA is far worse with it than Macross ever was. These are supposed to be a half dozen guerilla fighters and they take out the entire Invid invasion force (spoiler alert). I LOVE the video games (both Battlecry and Invasion) for this, they introduce new characters just as important in their own ways but in different areas of the world. Again, new stories that flesh out the universe without having the standard characters as the be-all end-all solution to any and every problem. Same reason I have a tough time watching Gundam Wing anymore, you're either a Gundam or you're an explosion. I'd rather not see that in the Robotech minis game.
I'm a tremendous fan of the Sega Dreamcast Gundam game, it was a side story that played out in Australia at the same time the main main anime's war was going on. Seperate story that had little (or nothing) to do with the story of Amuro, but was important in that area of the world and featured a relatively normal group of Feds being awesome fighting off the Zeons. Gundam actually had a few of these Side Stories both in games and in actual animes, and it really makes the world come alive. Star Trek TNG had the episode where Barclay was seeing things in the transporter, and they turned out to be a random group of Federation members that had suspended themselves in the transporter buffer/energy/techspeak until the Enterprise crew figures out what they did and go "oh hey, that was clever as hell!". It's an amazing episode because it's something you would have seen Scotty or Geordi do except that it's some no-named, generic starfleet officers being awesome badasses this time.
That's all I want out of stories, tabletop and RPG games especially. Main characters are awesome, but give the other guys a chance ot be as awesome. Just because Max is an incredible, awesome, amazing ace doesn't mean other aces just as good don't exist. Max just happens to be the right ace in the right place. Make the "generic" heroes as cool as the named ones. Let me make "my" character and have him be able to go toe to toe with a named character, even if he has a disadvantage. Maybe that's hoping for a Mary Sue, but damnit, that's the entire point of making your own characters in stuff!
Robotech had a great weekend, unlocking more free Bonuses for all pledges of Battle Cry and above. We just updated the Battle Cry pledge graphic showing how much stuff comes with it now. Needless to say, it is quite impressive!
SIZE CHART UPDATE
We gave the size chart a big overhaul, adding all the new units that have been unlocked. We also added a ruler and a comparison with a standard 32mm scale hobby game piece, so that you can get a better sense of the true size of these models. Mathematical!
Good luck... Yamato went out of business a month ago. All of the Yamato toys have doubled to tripled in price. The 1/60 Miriya Super Valkyrie just sold for over $700 on ebay. I believe the SDF-1 is worth over 2 grand now.
It looks like they just restructured and are now called 'Arcadia', new Macross merch will be coming out from them.
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Good luck... Yamato went out of business a month ago. All of the Yamato toys have doubled to tripled in price. The 1/60 Miriya Super Valkyrie just sold for over $700 on ebay. I believe the SDF-1 is worth over 2 grand now.
It looks like they just restructured and are now called 'Arcadia', new Macross merch will be coming out from them.
But will most likely be discontinuing everything not in the 1/60 line to be more "agile" - so the 1/3000 SDF-1 and 1/48 super detailed Valkyries, which makes me sad. :(
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke
Not that this will come as a true surprise for most pledgers but a banner for the Robotech Kickstarter seems to be "previewing" a popularly asked for model.
So aside from the legal concerns that will never go away with this franchise and tbe involvement of some unsavory businesses that will be getting my trickle down money I am still excited about this project.
In that excitement I have been trying to get some of my other wargaming friends interested. Over the weekend I tried to show a friend Macross: Do you remember love? as a test. I figured it was the least dated animation from the old Macross days and would be the most visually interesting as an introduction.
He hated it. I cannot even imagine trying to show him (and others) the robotech series with the major plot inconsitencies and errors if even the flagship macross anime from back in the day falls flat on a younger audience.
This leads me to the point of this post. How is this game ever going to grow in a very crowded market with a new audience? I kind of think this is just going to end up a beloved niche game that I am rarely if ever going to find players for.
This will be a very hard sell to newcomers I think.
I agree there is room for competition but we are talking about an IP that has squandered itself since the 80s and is fairly lost on a younger audience.
Most of the games that are out there and making it are not based on what is essentially a content restricted, obscure IP from the 80s with 25 years of legal drama behind them.
I would love to be able to look forward to pick up games of robotech tactics at the local flgs but I think the very nature of the IP is going to make that an extremely rare possibility.
Swabby, I hate to break it to you but the new players from that "younger audience" won't care about the drama of the last 25 years as they didn't have to live through it so weren't affected by it. To them, it'll simply be a footnote that old grognards tell them over and over for some strange reason. If they like the minis and the rules, they'll buy the game. If they don't, they won't. I've never met a young prospective 4e D&D player who told me that they decided not to get into the game because T$R used to sue fansites and they didn't like what happened with the AD&D 2.5e player's choice books when they were still in diapers or younger. Only older people who *wanted* to play Robotech in the 80's or 90's and couldn't would give a rat's ass about the drama surrounding the IP.
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