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I thought Battle Cry was up to 4 Artillery Pods. Am I all screwed up? They are showing two.

IIRC the graphics guy is off today. It takes a little bit to update the giant image with all the rewards showing apparently.

The updates stated the additional two were unlocked we just haven't seen the picture adjusted yet.

Holy crap the next round of updates is awesome!

The licencing issue could be at one of so very many places in the nightmare that is robotech rights

Harmony Gold (a one time importer) holds the US licence for Robotech (which is a Frankenstein of 3 other Japanese shows) due to an accident of law

The actual producers of these Japanese shows would like these US rights back, but can't get them and therefore block all attempts by HG bring in any newer Macros etc (what robotech derives from) stuff into the US, and some of the desired designs may belong to them

Swabby wrote:
Does anyone have any insight into why the license only allows mecha?

It obviously includes more than mecha, unless Zentraedi troops, Lancer Space Cannons, and QE-3000 Es are mecha.

Can you link where they say it is a licensing issue? It always seemed to me that most people except for a vocal minority thought the focus should be first on getting the mecha and aliens done before moving on to other vehicle classes. Now, before someone gets their commanchero panties in a bunch.. I said FIRST, not only.

 Manchu wrote:

Swabby wrote:
Does anyone have any insight into why the license only allows mecha?

It obviously includes more than mecha, unless Zentraedi troops, Lancer Space Cannons, and QE-3000 Es are mecha.

Not really. The show even references a personal aircraft as "sports mecha" at the contest the Mimei wins. It was just a fan jet like what Rick started the show in, just colored gold.

 megatrons2nd wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
It obviously includes more than mecha, unless Zentraedi troops, Lancer Space Cannons, and QE-3000 Es are mecha.

Not really.

So you think Zentraedi troops are mecha?

 warboss wrote:
It always seemed to me that most people except for a vocal minority thought the focus should be first on getting the mecha and aliens done before moving on to other vehicle classes.

Yep, the mecha-only license rumor (call it what it is until there's a link to Palladium/Ninja Division saying as much) seems obviously weak.

As "Mecha" as a personal aircraft. Could also follow the "aliens" in Battletech, that ended up just being more humans in the form of the "Clans" in the shape of people not knowing they are organic and not machines.

 megatrons2nd wrote:
As "Mecha" as a personal aircraft.

As "Mecha" as a Cat's Eye.

Yeah, I would say so. Though that goes back to where we began.

I'd say it's a pretty good argument for the insight that, if the Cat's Eye or other conventional vehicles are not included in this KS, it is probably not because Palladium is only licensed to make mecha miniatures.

Oddly, the 'to be unlocked silouettes' include the QF-3000 drone fighters and those weird fork-prong earth space fighters. I think the conventional aircraft will be allowed. It'd be very strange if the QF-3000 is allowed, but the Cats Eye is not. The real tragedy is that we can't have the Strike Valkyrie

As for jeeps or helicopters, whatever. Those can be 'originals'.

It would be really nice to see us hit an even 100 today.

 dalsiandon wrote:
No additional pledge goals were mentioned. I wonder if that means anything. Otherwise not bad. I'd still like to hear more about the battle foam bags. But they are closed lipped there.

I should've mentioned that they said they'd be announcing a new higher goal when lower ones were hit. Their goal seems to be to have 4 lined up for us to reach for at all times.

So it's not so much that they aren't mentioning more, they're just keeping a steady 4 lined up and we're just over 6k from unlocking Miriya and expanding the next one at the end of the line (825k?).

 Forar wrote:

 dalsiandon wrote:
No additional pledge goals were mentioned. I wonder if that means anything. Otherwise not bad. I'd still like to hear more about the battle foam bags. But they are closed lipped there.

I should've mentioned that they said they'd be announcing a new higher goal when lower ones were hit. Their goal is to have 4 lined up for us to reach for at all times.

So it's not so much that they aren't mentioning more, they're just keeping a steady 4 lined up and we're just over 6k from unlocking Miriya and expanding the next one at the end of the line (825k?).

I think he might be referring to the # pledger goals and not the amount pledged goals. They did comment about the former though

@John
We're currently discussing this. The math on backer goals is harder to calculate because each backer's actual financial contribution can vary so dramatically. Since the last few days tend to get so crazy it adds to the difficulty of accurately plotting them.

–Finance Ninja

I'm quite happy with the ones they've already given us frankly and would be just fine with pledge amount goals after 3500. Of course, if they do put some up I certainly won't turn down free minis of any sort!

edit: found the post.

Ah, yeah, skipped that bit.

Be nice to see another lined up, even something spicy like 4000 or higher.

Sure, some people are buffing the numbers with $1 pledges, but of those I know and from the comments it mostly seems to be people who just want to be counted, as they're part of Showdowns/Reckless tiers with friends.

2 of my friends have done as much, but we're in on a Reckless, so it's not like they aren't getting a big pile of cash from us once the add ons are counted up.

Edit: that said, even with some $1 placeholders in the mix, the average per backer is still $219 and has been climbing for a while.

Yeah, I don't think the number of "fake" pledgers artificially inflating the number is significant due to the average pledge amount per pledger being so high. I'm actually below average in that case!

Another interesting tidbit from the nightly comb through the Palladium/Ninja company comments:

@Jorel That is not the case at all. CMON manages all manufacturing and distribution for Soda Pop Miniatures and thus Relic Knights. Ninja Division and Palladium Books will be managing the manufacturing and distribution for Robotech RPG Tactics. Not only are different companies handling the management of the manufacturing, both products are being made at entirely different manufacturing facilities. @Bryan As stated in the risks section of the Kickstarter, delays happen. We have taken every step we can to attempt to foresee and head off any potential delays. –Production Ninja

So CMON will not be handling this one...

Bumped to a Showdown. Figured I would have gotten an extra of each of the KS exclusive characters as add-ons...might as well pay an extra $60 additional and double everything else. I wouldn't mind a 4000 backer reward, just to see if we can make it by the end. Hd to go a little deeper than I wanted, but there remain plenty of add-ons I want, including all of the special Valkyries. I may bail on the Monster. I appreciate the 100K looks. Makes sense as we close on the event horizon.

As a side note, pertaining to the earlier conversation:

In Japan, in an anime/manga context "mecha" means any mechanical device. Tanks, planes, giant robots, guns, etc.

 Xeno wrote:
As a side note, pertaining to the earlier conversation:

In Japan, in an anime/manga context "mecha" means any mechanical device. Tanks, planes, giant robots, guns, etc.

Which still leaves the Zentradi infantry as an outlier.

Who knows. Their contract (and keep in mind this goes HG->Palladium->Ninja Division so lots of potential for crazy restrictive contracts) might actually list exactly what they may and may not make so if the various helicopters, fighters and tanks aren't on it they're out of luck.

Or it might be a misunderstanding somewhere, someone saying 'we're only making mecha' and someone hearing 'we can only make mecha'.

Obviously giant stompy robots, even giant stompy AWACs (who always get beaten up in giant stompy robot school and have their lunch money taken) are going to do better than 80s visions of what APCs will look like in the 2000s.

I still want my cars, rubble piles and a screaming Lynn Minmei to put on bases though!

For a final strech goal what about an Alpha Fighter from next gen?



It could be a good gauge of interest for the next 2 eras.

I think I'll start asking for a giant tuna and Minmei since there were requests for the 1D based solely on the wedding scene.

After the maths.... I think I'm looking at $700 minimum.

May The Lawd help my wallet if they add anything else even remotely interesting, lol.

Alpha and beta would be cool b

Unfortunately they're outside the scope of the project, which has been stated a few times to be strictly the first series. So no Hovertanks, no Cyclones, no Alphas/Betas, etc.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love 'em, but I imagine they'll be mining that last handful of figures (Ghosts/Lancers/Zentraedi Light Infantry) and obvious Limited Edition figures (Max, Miriya in a VT, etc) for the next couple hundred grand.

Edit: on the up side, we're nearly at 3300 backers, which means it'll hopefully take 2-3 days tops for us to hit Decals, and we should unlock Miriya overnight (barring another Bursting Point backer dropping), and if things continue to ride/pick up a bit as they have, there's even a non-zero chance we might unlock the 725k stretch for VEF-1's and 1D's, though that's not nearly as certain.

Woo Hooo! 725K! Viva Miriya!

Miriya's Quadrano armor unlocked. Next up VEF-1/VF 1D

Looking at the tracker, yesterday was the fourth best day in Dollar terms. If the last few days become a money spending frenzy like other Kickstarters, looks like a million Dollars could be a reality.

 TalonZahn wrote:
I think I'll start asking for a giant tuna and Minmei since there were requests for the 1D based solely on the wedding scene.

After the maths.... I think I'm looking at $700 minimum.

May The Lawd help my wallet if they add anything else even remotely interesting, lol.

You know it was only a regular tuna?

Tuna are big fish.

The whole stuff about it being mutated by the space fold is because neither of "Jack McKinney" were fishermen.

 TalonZahn wrote:
I think I'll start asking for a giant tuna and Minmei since there were requests for the 1D based solely on the wedding scene.

After the maths.... I think I'm looking at $700 minimum.

May The Lawd help my wallet if they add anything else even remotely interesting, lol.

We need the 1D so we can recreate all of Rick's crashes!

RogueRegault wrote:
You know it was only a regular tuna?

Tuna are big fish.

The whole stuff about it being mutated by the space fold is because neither of "Jack McKinney" were fishermen.

Yes I do!

I was reeling in a huge tuna off the Florida Keys and almost had it in the boat when a barracuda ripped the thing apart and left me with the tuna's head. Very nice of him.

Point being, a giant space tuna objective marker is much needed to progress through the scenarios to the 1D Wedding Valk.

Have you all badgered your friends into pledging $1 yet?

Tell them about the Robotech Friends and Family Plan.

For a $1 donation your Friends and Family will gift thousands of nerds with Decals for symbols most can't paint by hand. It also saves hours of detail work through a magnifier and painful hand cramps.

Won't somebody think of the nerds?

Donate today.

Eleventy more until terrain!