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They're resin so that explains some of it.

and yes, there's a Lynn Minmei AND a giant tuna.

No artwork yet

OBJECTIVE PACK 1

Giant Tuna
Linn Minmei "Rescue" Valkyrie
"Infiltrator" Max Sterling



OBJECTIVE PACK 2

Crashed Battlepod
Crashed Valkyrie

Really. . . Giant Tuna. . . really. . . Well they listen at least ;P

Yes a giant tuna...

but no SDF-1

"Infiltrator" Max Sterling

This better be Max's Valk in a coat.


..and we'd better get Max soon.

They did clarify in the comments that they wont be flat markers but actual sculpts which makes the cost a bit more reasonable.

Awesome! Almost as cool as the limited uniform Yamato made

http://anymoon.com/blog/?p=4382

Soooo..... I come back from watching some TV and....

Awww yea, Giant Tuna.

LMAO!

Eh.

I just hope we blow through the next 125k lineup, because other than maybe snagging some Armoured Battloids I'm not really feeling this one.

 Forar wrote:
I just hope we blow through the next 125k lineup, because other than maybe snagging some Armoured Battloids I'm not really feeling this one.

Yea, this is going to hurt the KS I think.

825k to 900k and not one upgrade to a Boxed set.

Why change the pattern this late in the game?

This just might cause a massive stall.

I agree with talon on this one... This might stall tus KS a bit bit of we get some sculp pics in...

I think this is their version of the larger gaps you see at higher pledge totals in most kickstarters. Instead of increasing goals to 100k they're apparently still adding paid goals and just increasing the free ones. I expected a bigger gap but not necessarily a jump from 25k to 50k to at least 100k.

edit: Interesting... they got rid of the MSRPs from the front page. I guess they didn't like the commentary about the KS discount not being as big as expected.

edit#2: they seem to have backtracked on the decals we're getting AFTER the goal was unlocked. From update #59: "The decal sheets will be 3" x 5" and the box set will include 2x sheets for each faction. They will also available as an optional purchase add-on for $5 for 3 sheets." The front page now lists the decals as only 2 for $5 and only 1x sheets for each faction in the box set. Something smells a bit fishy and its not just the space tuna objective marker.

Finding out that they don't have permission to add Brettai as a character is also an interesting development.

Same as they don't have the rights to the catseye.

So I moved up from Battlecry to showdown. The amount of stuff is ridiculously awesome at that level. You can field 8 full units and 4 support units plus the 2 characters at that level for the Zentraedi. UEDF is right there to with 8 units and 1 support plus the 2 characters and if characters work like I think they do then that buys the UEDF a 9th Unit and the Zentraedi a 9th unit as well. The Zentraedi have a lot more variety to the units however. 5 UEDF units are Valkyries (as it should be), the other 4 are from the various combinations of Destroids. The Zentraedi can really mix and match how they build between recon and attrition and attack squads plus with the MPA, the Gnerls and the Regult Artillery pods and recon pods allows for a lot more variety. I'm wondering if I want to go to 500$ in my pledge what would be the best way to go. I could get 1 of everything that's currently available. I'm currently leaning toward going with one unit of the Super VT's (2 sets), a MKII and one unit of the FPA. and that will leave me with 100 dollars to play with for armored vt's, VEF-1's or whatever else comes out. Maybe the bag if the info on them is good whenever it arrives.

On the MSRP it appears from comment from the Ninjas that the last update to the front page removed them. They said they will try and get them back up.

Well considering that you only get 1 Monster per Destroid squad I am not sure the Daedulus is ok.... I still Night get it though...

Swabby wrote:Finding out that they don't have permission to add Brettai as a character is also an interesting development.

Sheep wrote:Same as they don't have the rights to the catseye.

Where did you guys see this?

If true, while I would never condone piracy, if someone were to make a 42mm one-eye alien commander in greatcoat (a completely original creation) it just might sell.



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wait a sec... they have the rights to Minmei and a giant tuna but not Breetai?

What the heck kind of contract did they sign?

Kid_Kyoto someone emailed ninja division and posted the reply about Breetai in the comments for the kickstarter.

I am under the impression they have to ask permission (if it is Palladium or Harmony Gold is up in the air) for each figure they want to make, and for whatever reason they were denied on Breetai.

Kevin Sembieda said in an interview last night that space combat rules will not be in the initial release, which I also find odd.

Interestingly enough ND also asked a user who was pimping the Palladium RPG to stop posting about it in the comments. Weird stuff.

He wasn't just posting but rather spamming the same relatively long post over and over dozens of times for weeks. I didn't comment about it there but it was definitely annoying. He should have posted the link with a simple individualized post instead of copy/pasting the same multiple paragraphs constantly.

As for Breetai, I am really surprised about that. Maybe something to do with the character license and voice actors? I don't know if they'd have to pay the actor more if they did an individual figure (as opposed to a small part of the cockpit in a larger mech model) but that sounds like something a Hollywood actors union would have fought for.

I can see them asking him to stop if he was being annoying about it.

Even weirder news about Breetai, he will have a character card in the game. It seems to me if they have the rights to make him a character in the game they should be able to make a miniature for him as well...

Maybe they just don't want to make a unique mold for a single slightly larger than normal (at this scale) Zentraedi infantry figure? All of the other LE figures have been large models (2 Veritechs, an Officer's Pod and a FPA), but unless they did a whole slew of them (Khyron/Azonia/Miriya/Breetai/etc), perhaps it's just not worth the molding costs? Hell, the infantry box has 12 figures, perhaps it's just not economical.

Though they did specifically say that they weren't given permission, so who knows, maybe it is something to do with behind the scenes royalties/actor stuff or whatever.

Also, I'll admit it, I find the constant comment spam annoying. Between the people who feel the need to re-post Palladium Newsletters 1-3 times per day, the people re-listing the entire wall of stretch goals, the people making up their own walls of fantasy goals, and whatnot it's... I dunno, cluttered.

I recognize that a solid sense of community is an advantage, and for the most part everyone is pretty civil, but seeing 150 new comments and 140 of them are just random bull means the only way to find actual info is to stalk ND's comments themselves, which often lack context so you have to go hunting for them anyway.

Oh, not to mention guys like baphomet unrelentingly begging for things.

... why yes, I do have some kids on my lawn I should go yell at, why do you ask?

I have to agree that the constant reposting of the goals and rewards is veeeeery annoying.

Careful Forar... I've seen you posting on the Palladium boards and they're already circling the wagons around Jorel both there and in the comments of the KS. You may risk the collective wrath of the fanboy mindset that is prevalent there. It's that inability to process criticism that has left us with the Palladium RPG rules that we have today... which are generally the same as the ones we had 25 years ago sadly.

Eh, nothing they can throw at me I haven't seen before.

I used to be a staunch regular on one of their old (OOOLLLLDD) forums, but my account seems to have been eaten during one of the transitions. We (my crew and I) spent a good half a decade around the high school and later years on Rifts and mixes with the other genres/settings, but grew tired of some of the shenanigans we found inherent to the system (and all the house rules we needed to fix or streamline them), so we moved onto D&D 3E and later 4E for our gaming fixes (which became harder to pull off as people moved around the province anyway).

Basically, I'm a fan of their settings but their rulesets and I don't always see eye to eye, and blind, rabid fanboyism is something I have naught but disdain for. I don't know when the internet lost its ability to distinguish between unreasonable negativity and constructive criticism, but it's been annoying ever since. I can love a game, company or whatever and still see things that I'd like changed, or feel could be done better.

But nope, disagree in the slightest and suddenly it's all "man, haters gonna hate".

Your experience pretty much mirrors mine. Started with Robotech/Rifts in freshman year of high school and it got me into tabletop gaming. I stuck with them exclusively until I went to gen con the first time and realized that rules didn't have to feel cobbled together and could mechanically make sense. I went from buying every book for most of their lines over the next 10 years to stopping completely when robotech came out (as it was the second time they sold me the same rules as a "new" edition.. the first being RUE). I still love the setting but I haven't bought or played the game for years because of the rules and the inability of fans and the creators to understand the need for change despite the company's fall from grace over the past 10 years (above and beyond their overly dramatic "Crisis of Treachery").

That's actually been my biggest issue with supporting the KS but the interest I have in robotech superceded my dislike of palladium rules. Luckily, except for the bolted on close combat options that feel completely out of place, the rules seem to be more original that I initially expected despite their derivation from the RPG.

"Crisis of Treachery"?

Sounds...dramatic!

What was that all about?

I'm a Robotech fanboy but I can't stand most of the commentors on the KS. Especially because of how loud and vocal and outright wrong some of them are.

 Alpharius wrote:
"Crisis of Treachery"?

Sounds...dramatic!

What was that all about?

I wish I was joking about the name but that is actually the name it's referred to in official press releases by the owner for years. A trusted long time employee was apparently selling cases of books on the side and keeping the money. Whole pallets of printed books were missing and the company came close to running out of funds until they held a donation drive from fans that saved them. They also posted passionate pleas for the fans to not hunt down and hurt the perpetrator of this treachery that is still (as of a few months ago when I last noticed) stickied to the top of the forum.

Yeah, those forums are in need of a moderator with hip waders and pruning sheers. There are notices of giant book/swag sales that ended years ago. Maybe not pruned entirely, but archived somewhere that can be found if one wants to look back, but there's a ton of stuff (good, bad and ugly) just laying around.

Their forums are also an odd mix. I mean, I'm no stranger to the aforementioned blind fanboys/fangirls, but some on the PB boards take it to a weird level, where anything but overwhelming positivity is met with attack dog ferocity.

Sometimes I kind of miss having an entire bookshelf as many of them were fun reads (at one point I owned everything Rifts, all the Rifters and a pile of other stuff from their lines), but after a half dozen moves, lack of use and a desire to pay off some bills, I occasionally look at the last three dozen tucked away and ponder trying to ebay a chunk off like I did a decade ago.

 Forar wrote:

Sometimes I kind of miss having an entire bookshelf as many of them were fun reads (at one point I owned everything Rifts, all the Rifters and a pile of other stuff from their lines), but after a half dozen moves, lack of use and a desire to pay off some bills, I occasionally look at the last three dozen tucked away and ponder trying to ebay a chunk off like I did a decade ago.

Do it. psssst, Rifts is not good.