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 warboss wrote:

 Salacious Greed wrote:

Yes, but someone who playtested this for SPM/ND said that the mini's are pretty much done. So I imagine they've been working on this, possibly neglecting their other things, since this was for themselves...

So Ninja Division/Soda says the minis are pretty much done means something¿? *looking at the April 2013 Robotech kickstarter front page info*

No, it doesn't mean anything. Just that one of the posters here at DakkaDakka said he playtested it, and had seen some/most of the figures. That really means nothing/not much at all as far as trusting SPM/ND.

On a separate note, I'm underwhelmed by the tokens. I thought they were going to be hard plastic or acrylic. I hope that isn't the product going into the box, as it doesn't resemble the art even remotely. Also, what is the deal with the "tab" on the back of the bases? Is that the attaching point for the flight piece? Does it have a game purpose, because if not, then I prefer my bases to be symmetric...

It's been suggested that the 'back tab' may act as a clear marker location to specify which squad a figure belongs to.

It's similar to what's used in xwing to know who's who.

Ah, thanks guys, that could work.

Anyone heard if they're coloring the tokens, or if they're just going to give us those grey lumps? Kind of disappointing if so...

All of the samples that wee have been shown have been plain jane till now. I think the templates are going to be clear plastic when done with a design on it and the tokens I think are to be colored as shown in the KS pics. I could be wrong though.

Do you guys think we'll see the destroids today or this weekend?

I really hope so. It would be great.

Countdown to a Demo at my local shop here in Midland, Texas begins. This Saturday we start at the Astral Castle at 12:30 pm and will play till we tire ourselves out or they close.

I finished up my Max Gencon mini.

Front:

Back:


Its not great, but it's my first time working with metal minis, and I'm fairly new at the hobby.

Looks good. Not a fan of the pose that they decided to put him in though.

Not sure about the cotton on the base.

 balsak_da_mighty wrote:
Looks good. Not a fan of the pose that they decided to put him in though.

Not sure about the cotton on the base.

The pose is very much taken from the fight between him and Miriya, but it is awkward. The cotton is supposed to look like clouds. Looks a lot better in person really.

Looks good. :-)

A few goodies to share

This just serves to remind me how tiny the invid are going to be at this scale.

 warboss wrote:

 Salacious Greed wrote:

Yes, but someone who playtested this for SPM/ND said that the mini's are pretty much done. So I imagine they've been working on this, possibly neglecting their other things, since this was for themselves...

So Ninja Division/Soda says the minis are pretty much done means something¿? *looking at the April 2013 Robotech kickstarter front page info*

It's possible they're at a stage where the minis are "done", sent up the chain, then they are constantly being sent back a month later for 2 days worth of revisions after being rejected by Harmony Gold and/or Palladium, before starting the cycle again. If you recall, that's the kind of convoluted approval cycle that killed the Starcraft game.

A studio of designers would need something else to do while that is happening in order to keep ticking over. The very protracted development cycle of Relic Knights is currently at the manufacturing stage as well I believe.

Man, that artwork brings back memories.

NTRabbit wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 Salacious Greed wrote:

Yes, but someone who playtested this for SPM/ND said that the mini's are pretty much done. So I imagine they've been working on this, possibly neglecting their other things, since this was for themselves...

So Ninja Division/Soda says the minis are pretty much done means something¿? *looking at the April 2013 Robotech kickstarter front page info*

It's possible they're at a stage where the minis are "done", sent up the chain, then they are constantly being sent back a month later for 2 days worth of revisions after being rejected by Harmony Gold and/or Palladium, before starting the cycle again. If you recall, that's the kind of convoluted approval cycle that killed the Starcraft game.

A studio of designers would need something else to do while that is happening in order to keep ticking over. The very protracted development cycle of Relic Knights is currently at the manufacturing stage as well I believe.

I would agree with you, however, they're just "printing" the destroids as of two weeks ago. That doesn't speak to what you're saying. Usually, when things are printed is when companies start approving pieces. That they are just printing a core piece of the game, and haven't printed the Veritechs yet gives me a big pause. Things seem to be grinding even slower, instead of them ramping up. To get the game out in June, they need to start cutting molds today.

By Request here is a large plotter sized chart with everything. Later I'll go back and mix generations up a bit for better comparison but for now here ya go. I also uploaded the PPT file in case you want to mess with it on your own.

Nice work, Mike! I'm glad that at least you're making discernable progress with Robotech unlike Palladium since the official project seems to be backsliding every week. Let us know how your upcoming demo game goes as well.

At this point, unless Palladium states that they're beginning production in a week or two, there is no way that most backers will get their stuff by June (and anyone getting their stuff in May is likely impossible). A few weeks to cut the moulds, a few weeks to run the plastic, a few weeks to package it in china, a month to ship it via slow boat, customs, and at least a month to actually ship it from within the US. August/Gencon is still a possibility but that cutoff is approaching fast as well.

Dang, I never realized that the Logan Veritech (from Southern Cross) was so small! Invid too for that matter.

 Easy E wrote:
Dang, I never realized that the Logan Veritech (from Southern Cross) was so small! Invid too for that matter.

Makes you visualize the invid swarm attacks in a whole new way. More like locusts attacking in huge swarms than 2 or 3 Rotweilers against a bear.


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Now I can't imaging a Royal Command Battloid trying to take on a Female Power Armor. :(

I bumped the Glaug up in size a bit. It looked a bit small.


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Although not cannon I think the Glaug looks more in line with the rest scale wise

Mike1975 wrote:

Now I can't imaging a Royal Command Battloid trying to take on a Female Power Armor. :(

It's almost as if the creators of the two mecha had no interaction! I suspect that if we get a second era that the scale will be internally consistent within that era but slid up to a bigger scale like 1/200.

MADNESS! SUCH WOULD BRING ABOUT THE END TIMES! YOU'RE CLEARLY DRUNK AND MUST BE STOPPED!

... sorry, suggesting that the third series (at least) is so small as to be poorly melded with the 6mm scale draws out some truly rabid responses in the KS comments.

I swear there are a few people in there who are convinced that doing anything but keeping all 3 in scale will cause their families to be assassinated by the end of the day.

I can understand the desire for consistency, but man, trying to put detail on a Cyclone that's only 7mm tall isn't exactly something this very amateur painter is looking forward to.

Edit: It doesn't help that one of my favourite mechs from the series is the Saber series Cyclone. I'd like to actually be able to see details on those things on the table, rather than needing a magnifying glass.

This one is about 10mm

I would rather keep the scale consistent. One of my favorite scenes in all of Robotech is the Invid invasion of Tirol, with shock troopers and scout units fighting bioroids (and I love the scene where the Cougar inorganics swarm the defended bioroid position - they're so tiny!). I have wanted to play a Sentinels miniatures game far more than a specific era, especially with the Wolfe Pack using a mix of Hovertanks and Cyclones against Invid.

If all the other genres were made at 8mm, so that they were 33% bigger. When compared to the Macross Saga I don't think the scale would be horribly off since most players have no idea of the real size comparison of a VT against an Invid Scout. The only problem I'd see is when you compare a cyclone to other units. They would look large. Small loss in my mind. Maybe I will make a scale with all the other generations 33% larger and repost it.

Just for comparison purposes I took all the non-Macross era stuff and increased it by 33% in size or roughly to 8mm from the 6mm of the Macross stuff. What do you think?

Still too small to be considered for use on the same table.

Maybe they could make a skirmish game from the in if and cyclones at for example 20mm, and on each sprue you get, 2-5 6mm scale minis to use in the main game.

Best of both worlds?

Here is one that I made the Glaug, MPA, and FPA to scale with what is found here and not with the RPG fluff.

http://www.macross2.net/m3/sizecharts/sizechart-zentradimeltrandi-mecha.jpg