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Palladium... where 6mm infantry will be so mouthwatering it can only come in 4-5 parts (including a split head!).

And optional gun barrel swaps fur ultra customization!

 warboss wrote:
Did you go through the whole pay palladium and have them send you a check procedure? Or are you just sending it yourself to the other person when you get it?

We initially tried that. But that fell apart due to the asinine way it was put together (basically, after several weeks, with "they haven't arrived yet", he just cancelled the cheques). I then sold the auxillary pledge by Paypal, then gave control of both the backerkit and the Kickstarter account to the buyer. With my primary account, we weren't able to do that (as I have quite a few outstanding KS's), so we're hoping PB will properly transfer it, but if not, just change the shipping address. This second one has the purchaser taking a leap of faith I'm not a complete jackass (at least fiscally), and I truly appreciate that. So, none of the packages will ever get sent to me.

@Korias, That was the primary reason for me. The quality, the bungling, the delays, all I could have continued to put up with. But assembling those things with that parts counts, for that many miniatures? Not for me.

Malcontent Dice
https://drive.google.com/…

Battlecry's come with 12 from each faction
Showdowns come with 24 from each faction
so if you want a matching amount...

Working on shipping with them so that I don't have to have everyone pay me and then I send the dice out which would be a pain. That might not be necessary as he said if the order was large enough he still might work us a deal for all the added individual orders....that means they would give a slightly smaller discount and ship directly from their shop. I'd expect we'll get everything for around $.65 per die plus $5 shipping for 12 or 24 dice so that would be ~$8 for 12 or
~$20 for 24. But that's a guess. I'm still clarifying shipping and much will depend on the final order sizes. I told them I'd close things out Monday night and call them Tuesday.

Normal Price
Price depends on order size.
25-99 $0.75 each
100-199 $0.65 each
200+ $0.50 each or less.

They only have around 500 of the opaque Yellow dice so if we go over another option is to look at the Green opaque dice. If you think another base color for the die or symbol would work better let me know. They should have a Green Die sample pic for me later today. They cannot do black pips. They could have the 1-5 sides white and the symbol in black but I don't think anyone would be interested in that.

So far then....
Mike Arnold (24)
Doc ************* (24)
Allen ************ (24)
Chris ********* (36)
Thomas ********* (24)
Kiloden -- KS Comments (24)
Jaymz ******** (12)
David *********** (12)
Robert ******** (24)
Peter ******* (24)
Richard ******** (24)
IDIDOTH -- KS Comments (24)
Alex ******** (24)
Judgedoug -- DakkaDakka (12)
Nathan *********** (24)
Manchu -- DakkaDakka (12)
Hollow ******** (12)
Jared ******* (12)
Minstrel Cottini -- KS Comments (12)
Matt Trussell -- KS Comments (12)
Steven Carroll -- KS Comments (48)
Steve Teubner Jr -- KS Comments (24)

468 so far....

Jaymz is thinking of having Green D6 dice done with the numbers using Zentraedi writing. If interested let one of us know. Those would be cool but likely be around $3-5 each.

 Forar wrote:

I'd be shocked if it didn't fund (the true believers alone will make that happen), but another million plus? Even a slick ND campaign will probably struggle to pull that off, especially with the latter series (even 2 and 3 together might be a tough sell, depending on a bunch of factors).

Honestly, if they keep the same scale (they better!) they could literally only need a handful of sprues for _everything_ for SC and NG.

For Southern Cross, one expansion book. One Blue Bioroid sprue that has like 4 blue Bioroids, one Specialist Bioroid sprue that has a Red, Green, Scout and Invid Fighter, and then a sprue with 4 sleds and a searchlight drone. The ASC could have one sprue with a Spartas all three modes, one sprue with AGACS all three modes, one sprue with LOGAN all three modes, and then if you really want, a bonus sprue with a Falcon II, Chimera, Sylphid maybe some of the AFV's and a couple random Destroids like the Salamander and Monocle that get like 3 seconds of screentime.

Same deal with New Generation. One expansion book. One sprue with a buncha Iigaa with the option to give them Invid gunpods, and a sprue with a bunch of Gurab with the option to make them Shock Gurab-Improved, one sprue with Malar Power Armor, Gamo Pincer Command, and Gosu Royal Command. One sprue with Alpha, one sprue with Beta, one sprue with a ton of Cyclones, VR-038, 041, 052.

Overall much smaller projects.

 warboss wrote:
Palladium... where 6mm infantry will be so mouthwatering it can only come in 4-5 parts (including a split head!).

Don't worry, with the smaller figures it won't take long at all! In fact, they're already 98% done most of the preliminary work!

I swear, if they say anything resembling that in the next campaign (if there even is one), we know they're just flat out trolling.

... Which I might actually respect a bit more than their SOP. At least it'd indicate being self aware on it.

It'll be interesting to see if they do an update next week. If the container isn't supposed to arrive until Friday or the following Monday, there probably won't be much to say. If this were a tightly run ship, it'd be a perfect opportunity to talk about Wave Two. What's done, what's being worked on, how far along stuff is (approved 3D models? Sprue breakdown? 3D printed prototypes? Molds Milled? Test Sprues? Revisions?), etc.

I doubt we'll hear anything about W2 for a while to come, especially while NA/RoW/EU delivery are being worked on, but it's a fun dichotomy they're running these days between a (sensible) refusal to have a delivery target, versus nigh-indignation when people point out this could easily take 1-2 more years based on what we've seen.

The 'advocates' who seem to think that they'll somehow do twice the work in half the time, however, are simply adorable.

 warboss wrote:
Yeah, I knew but was just mentioning an alternative use (and likely the reason they're there). I don't have any problem with the dice and it is nice you're organizing it. I personally don't have any interest as I don't see malcontents as a real faction as they just steal from everyone else. If they had included some rules for frankenmecha or whatever they were called, that'd be a different story but in any case it is just an opinion.

So, I went to the palladium site today looking to see if they had an update for the week since the KS hasn't had one for the past three weeks and saw another closed thread and NMI up to his old antics. Anyone included in today's cull? If so, for how long? My money is on forar and kryptt (who I believe posts here as well under a different name). Oh, and any derogatory and condescending posts in favor of palladium will be ignored by NMI of course.

Yeah I'm still waiting on that ass hat to send me my warning. On FB he did send me an apology for some other BS.


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 judgedoug wrote:
Quick run through of the last few pages and still so many people who hate the game.

I am now addressing these disillusioned backers who are willing to sell for a price commensurate with what they think of the quality of the rules and miniatures.

I'm now offering $50 for a Battle Cry pledge. Please PM me.

When I get my SD I'll have an extra rules book I'll be happy to sell you for $50. Rulebook only no minis.
Let me know I take paypal.

I understand that it is a little...heated at times in here.

But in the interest of keeping things civil, can we please at least stop with the absurd dollar amounts getting offered for purchasing pledges, along with the somewhat absurd counter offers to said absurd purchasing offers?

It might help keep things peaceful, and interesting, and perhaps in accordance with the rules of the site?

Thanks!

Is not absurd guy. Somone already posted a rulebook on eBay. When my pledge comes in I will have an extra rulebook. Hence why I'm offering it for sale and I do take paypal.

So if they can't ship the majority of stuff until container 3 shows up how were they supposed to ship all that stuff to backer prior to & during Gen Con?

Seems like they filled the majority of container one with product intended for Gen Con with no real intent to fulfill shipment to backers until later, they got caught with their pants down when stuff didn't arrive in time for the convention and it serves them right for being greedy bastards.

Now they are sitting on a bunch of stuff for a couple months while the product intended for the backers slowly makes it's way over.

"He's not your guy, friend." :-P

Far as I know, that auction was taken down. It didn't show up as 'completed' when I went looking, so it doesn't seem to have been bought as a 'buy it now' auction, so perhaps the seller just changed their mind for whatever reason.

@Stanman: the only way it works for me is if the giant pile of core boxes in C1 was/is supposed to be matched with an equally massive pile of "Battle Cry Upgrade Packets" in C2. Their uncertainty on just how much of everything is in each box, however, makes me think that's either wishful thinking, or they're basically at the mercy of whatever the factory chose/was able to punch out and ship.

Malcontent Dice
https://drive.google.com/…

Battlecry's come with 12 from each faction
Showdowns come with 24 from each faction
so if you want a matching amount...
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Shipping for 500 of these dice within the US would be $15.00 via UPS
ground. This would make the total for the project $225.00 with
domestic shipping included.

Joseph *****
Chessex Manufacturing
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So likely only $7 or so for me to ship the dice. That's much more reasonable.

Normal Price
Price depends on order size.
25-99 $0.75 each
100-199 $0.65 each
200+ $0.50 each or less.
500-999 $0.42 each

If bought by yourself directly from Chessex.
12 Dice $21 with shipping.
24 Dice $35 with shipping
36 Dice $47 with shipping
48 Dice $59 with shipping

That's if I have them sent to me. Then about $10 for a bubble wrapping and some tape for a small flat rate priority box that should hold whatever you order easily. Shipping for that box is $6. So let's say $7 shipping per person. Plus whatever paypal will dip into the transaction. Maybe $1 per person. I'm not sure. One of you may know.

12 Dice $13 with shipping.
24 Dice $18 with shipping
36 Dice $23 with shipping
48 Dice $28 with shipping

They only have around 500 of the opaque Yellow dice so if we go well over another option is to look at the Green opaque dice. If you think another base color for the die or symbol would work better let me know. They should have a Green Die sample pic for me later today. They cannot do black pips. They could have the 1-5 sides white and the symbol in black but I don't think anyone would be interested in that.

So far then....
Mike Arnold (24)
Doc ***** (24)
Allen ***** (24)
Chris ***** (48)
Thomas ***** (24)
Kiloden -- KS Comments (24)
Jaymz L***** (12)
David ***** (12)
Robert ***** (24)
Peter T ***** (24)
Richard ***** (24)
IDIDOTH -- KS Comments (24)
Alex ***** (24)
Judgedoug -- DakkaDakka (12)
Nathan ***** (24)
Manchu -- DakkaDakka (12)
Hollow ***** (12)
Jared ***** (12)
Minstrel Cottini -- KS Comments (12)
Matt Trussell -- KS Comments (12)
Steven Carroll -- KS Comments (48)
Steve Teubner Jr -- KS Comments (24)
Joe ***** (24)

504 so far....

I need to double check shipping but that should be close. At most it might be $1 more if I need to get more bubble wrap to pack the dice up in the box or if the box is more if it goes over a certain weight. I think that as long as it fits in the box you ship it for that rate. It's been a few years since I've sold things on ebay.

Shipping might be better if you bought bubble padded envelopes ($1 ea) and shipped First Class Mail (US under 13oz) for roughly $3 and some change. Put the dice in a ziplock bag so they don't bounce around (say 25 cents per person) Paypal takes like 39 cents plus 3%, so round up to a dollar. roughly 6 bucks shipping per order. I volunteer to be the test case for a 12 dice order so you can calibrate the cost of materials and shipping properly.

Hey, Cypher, that idiot NMI just banned ME for your post under the username Kryptt. Wow..just wow...

A 4th warning has been issued on your account "Kryptt" @ the Forums of the Megaverse.


This warning is for trolling another forum entity/user. In this case, much like your last warning, the entity is: Palladium Books.


Palladium Books, though not an actual forum user, IS an entity attached to the forums and therefore protected by the same rules that you have repeatedly violated.


As this is a 4th active warning on your account AND it is being issued within a couple of weeks of coming off a one month ban, your temporary ban shall last for a period of 3 months.


A link to the most recent post that earned you a warning and a ban is listed below.


http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2815612#p2815612

Jeff Ruiz
MCP, MCTS, MCSE, A+
Palladium Books® Forums of The Megaverse® Administrator
Palladium Books® Lazlo Society® Administrator
Palladium Books® Chatroom Administrator
Immatu Imperium da nai Palladium!

Edit: Now he added a warning to my post and is claiming that it is for me (despite the email referencing the username Kryptt). This is what got me banned for 3 months...

Since Krypt's old topic was locked and his replacement has disappeared, I'll post my thoughts again here. I'll be pledging the might sum of $1.00 so I can simply comment on the project for years to come in a open (if frequently contentious) environment. I consider this a "no" vote in the poll though as I don't expect any product/rewards for my pledge.

Warning: User warned for trolling another forum entity/user. In this case, Palladium Books. User has been temporarily banned as this is a 4th warning. This specific warning being issued while still having 3 warnings AND having come off a ban less then 2 weeks ago. - NMI

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2815612#p2815612

 warboss wrote:
Hey, Cypher, that idiot NMI just banned ME for your post under the username Kryptt. Wow..just wow...

Edit: Now he added a warning to my post and is claiming that it is for me (despite the email referencing the username Kryptt). This is what got me banned for 3 months...

Since Krypt's old topic was locked and his replacement has disappeared, I'll post my thoughts again here. I'll be pledging the might sum of $1.00 so I can simply comment on the project for years to come in a open (if frequently contentious) environment. I consider this a "no" vote in the poll though as I don't expect any product/rewards for my pledge.

Warning: User warned for trolling another forum entity/user. In this case, Palladium Books. User has been temporarily banned as this is a 4th warning. This specific warning being issued while still having 3 warnings AND having come off a ban less then 2 weeks ago. - NMI

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2815612#p2815612

Both you (bielmic, I assume?) and Cypher (Kryptt?) have exactly the same number of warnings (4), and both came off suspension at the same time? That seems coincidental. Or has NMI succumbed to Kevin Update Syndrome, and he's just copy/pasting without reading?

Cause KUS still has Robotech Tactics set for a September retail release. So it wouldn't surprise me if NMI was driving the same kind of "stupid/lazy" train.

Don't worry warboss he got me too.lol And I just got back from a one month ban.lol


Glistam wrote:
Question for Kryptt &/or Prysus... Which poll option will you consider all the forum members who don't vote to count as?


The answer is obvious. They'll get counted as an automatic "No because of how the first was handled". Since there not voting I'll have the results go how I think they would vote. After all I have the voters best interest in mind and it's for the good of the community. I learn from the best.

Warning: User warned for trolling another forum entity/user. In this case, Palladium Books. User has been temporarily banned as this is a 4th warning. This specific warning being issued while still having 3 warnings AND having come off a ban less then 2 weeks ago. - NMI


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Thank you thought police.

Yeah, I'm definitely being punished for thought crime there. I'm arguing with him by email but if he is that delusion that simply voting NO in a poll is an insult then I don't expect him to budge. Wow, that really is a new low for the palladium boards. I used to (years ago) actually say the moderation was quite moderate over there and that the various posters who felt it was their "duty" to defend Maiden Kevin's honor were the problem that is absolutely no longer the case.

 judgedoug wrote:
Shipping might be better if you bought bubble padded envelopes ($1 ea) and shipped First Class Mail (US under 13oz) for roughly $3 and some change. Put the dice in a ziplock bag so they don't bounce around (say 25 cents per person) Paypal takes like 39 cents plus 3%, so round up to a dollar. roughly 6 bucks shipping per order. I volunteer to be the test case for a 12 dice order so you can calibrate the cost of materials and shipping properly.

I was going to use the small Flat rate boxes. Shipping is $6 and the box is free. All I need is something to pack the dice inside with so they don't move around. If you guys prefer I can swap to those envelopes and just pack the dice in them in a plastic baggie. That would take ~$2 off the shipping. I was not sure how much the cost would be to ship 48 dice. No idea of the weight. I'll have to see if I can find some way to weigh out the dice.

Pfft, rank amateurs. I got banned on the PB forums before it was the cool thing to do and I did it on only one warning. I got banned back in 2012 for discussing the prototype miniatures and game ideas, didn't even leave a critical comment toward Palladium but he simply didn't like the topic. Back then we didn't even need to type things, his though police powers were on overdrive and he could peer directly into our minds, nowdays he's really slipping in his old age. 4 warnings, that's weaksauce.





Edit: Looking at the locked thread It may have been Jeffar that banned me, either way it was completely stupid as it was for something incredibly tame.

Here's what I got booted over (posted as mech_dude):

Wolfe, I think you have me confused with Tom as that's his blog. Second I've never said I wouldn't do Southern Cross, so please stop trying to claim that I did. I enjoy the complete series and I"ve even made a handful of models for other era stuff so I have no clue where you are getting that gak from.

When I was working on my models I'd indicated my primary forcus was on the macross stuff as I can only do so much at a time. You have no idea how much work is involved in creating a miniatures line particuarly in digital form. There's no way as a single individual can do every mech from every arc all at once, so my logical choice was to concentrate on a single arc first. I chose Macross for a starting point as it's the beginning of the story as well as the most widely reconized part of the series, sorry if that isn't your cup of tea.

Try and get your facts straight. I have absolutely nothing to do with Tom's Robotech Battles Blog so quit trying to throw me under a bus.

~Paulson

http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=134373&start=100

You so deserved that banning, look at your flagrant disregard for putting tm after Robotech, Southern Cross, Macross, Tom, blog and cup of tea!

Malcontent Dice
https://drive.google.com/…

Battlecry's come with 12 from each faction
Showdowns come with 24 from each faction
Reckless comes with 48 from each faction
so if you want a matching amount...
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Shipping for 500 of these dice within the US would be $15.00 via UPS
ground. This would make the total for the project $225.00 with
domestic shipping included.

Joseph *****
Chessex Manufacturing
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So likely only another $0.50 plus the $6 or so for me to ship the dice. That's much more reasonable.

Normal Price
Price depends on order size.
25-99 $0.75 each
100-199 $0.65 each
200+ $0.50 each or less.
500-999 $0.42 each

If bought by yourself directly from Chessex.
12 Dice $21 with shipping.
24 Dice $35 with shipping
36 Dice $47 with shipping
48 Dice $59 with shipping


That's if I have them sent to me. Then about $10 for a bubble wrapping, plastic baggies and some tape for a small flat rate priority box that should hold whatever you order easily. Shipping for that box is $6. So let's say $7 shipping per person. Plus whatever paypal will dip into the transaction. Lets say another $1 for a total of $8. We are working on the weight to maybe use plain bubble wrap envelopes and maybe lower shipping by $1-2.

12 Dice $13 with shipping.
24 Dice $18 with shipping
36 Dice $23 with shipping
48 Dice $28 with shipping
60 Dice $33 with shipping

They only have around 500 of the opaque Yellow dice so if we go well over another option is to look at the Green opaque dice. If you think another base color for the die or symbol would work better let me know. They should have a Green Die sample pic for me later today. They cannot do black pips. They could have the 1-5 sides white and the symbol in black but I don't think anyone would be interested in that.

So far then....
Mike Arnold (24)
Doc ***** (24)
Allen ***** (24)
Chris ***** (48)
Thomas ***** (24)
Kiloden -- KS Comments (24)
Jaymz ***** (12)
David ***** (12)
Robert ***** (24) 1/2 Yellow 1/2 Green
Peter ***** (48)
Richard ***** (24)
IDIDOTH -- KS Comments (24)
Alex ***** (24)
Judgedoug -- DakkaDakka (12)
Nathan ***** (24)
Manchu -- DakkaDakka (12)
Hollow ***** (12)
Jared ***** (12)
Minstrel -- KS Comments (12)
Matt Trussell -- KS Comments (12)
Steven Carroll -- KS Comments (48)
Steve Teubner Jr -- KS Comments (24)
Joe ***** (24)
James ***** (24) 1/2 Yellow 1/2 Green
Patrick Hutchison -- KS Comments (24)
Dan ***** (60)

636 so far....
Yellow 612 of 500
Green 24

Anybody Else Prefer Green Dice? We got too many Yellows right now.

something tells me when the BC's start shipping eBay is gonna be flooded.

well someone else already listed a BC on eBay at over $400 which now makes 2 of them, something tells me those 2 sellers are dreamers.


Also why does this site keep logging me out ?

Mike can you maybe create a new thread for the malcontent dice sellling?

yeah Mike might want to make it under the buy/sell thread (if they have one here)

Just toss a link to the thread in your sig, so people know where to go! Problem solved.

Also, people have been listing BC's for a year now. I know at least one backer has been buying them up, wouldn't surprise me if he was one of those that has been selling them off.

Presumably doubling or tripling his money gives him little incentive to stop.

Though at this rate he's going to qualify as a minor distribution hub once his boxes start arriving.

He'll probably still be able to get them out faster than Palladium...

 Forar wrote:
Just toss a link to the thread in your sig, so people know where to go! Problem solved.

Also, people have been listing BC's for a year now. I know at least one backer has been buying them up, wouldn't surprise me if he was one of those that has been selling them off.

Presumably doubling or tripling his money gives him little incentive to stop.

Though at this rate he's going to qualify as a minor distribution hub once his boxes start arriving.

Well I know one seller there has listed BC several times, not sure if its the same one or not and the buyer backed out, but I do know he will have one heck of a PP dispute when it does eventually ship since hes listing more items in the BC then actually come in the BC, and the other seller copied the first sellers listing so he'll have problems too.

So I've extended this to Wednesday since I just got pics of the Green Dice. I'd post a link to the FB page but not everyone could go see it since it is a Closed Group. Also this should only be for a couple days more than we can resume the PB bashing. So far this is what I have. I have also not looked more into pricing Rick since my laptop died this weekend and I wound up having to buy a new one after trying to get it to run for half a day.


Malcontent Dice
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0VSNzmthd1vc2dfbTAzdXlJQ1U&usp=sharing

Battlecry's come with 12 from each faction
Showdowns come with 24 from each faction
so if you want a matching amount...
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Shipping for 500 of these dice within the US would be $15.00 via UPS
ground. This would make the total for the project $225.00 with
domestic shipping included.

Joseph *****
Chessex Manufacturing
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So likely only another $0.50 plus the $6 or so for me to ship the dice. That's much more reasonable.

Normal Price
Price depends on order size.
25-99 $0.75 each
100-199 $0.65 each
200+ $0.50 each or less.
500-999 $0.42 each

If bought by yourself directly from Chessex.
12 Dice $21 with shipping.
24 Dice $35 with shipping
36 Dice $47 with shipping
48 Dice $59 with shipping

That's if I have them sent to me. Then about $10 for a bubble wrapping, plastic baggies and some tape for a small flat rate priority box that should hold whatever you order easily. Shipping for that box is $6. So let's say $7 shipping per person. Plus whatever paypal will dip into the transaction. Lets say another $1 for a total of $8. We are working on the weight to maybe use plain bubble wrap envelopes and maybe lower shipping by $1-2.

12 Dice $13 with shipping.
24 Dice $18 with shipping
36 Dice $23 with shipping
48 Dice $28 with shipping

They only have around 500 of the opaque Yellow dice so if we go well over another option is to look at the Green opaque dice. If you think another base color for the die or symbol would work better let me know. They should have a Green Die sample pic for me later today. They cannot do black pips. They could have the 1-5 sides white and the symbol in black but I don't think anyone would be interested in that.

So far then....
Mike Arnold (24)
Doc Brookshire (24)
Chris Cole (48)
Thomas Roache (24)
Kiloden -- KS Comments (24)
Jaymz LaFlamme (12)
David Johnston (12)
Robert Wertz (24) 1/2 Yellow 1/2 Green
Peter T Pidrak (48)
Richard Klepper (24)
IDIDOTH -- KS Comments (24)
Alex Clarke (24)
Judgedoug -- DakkaDakka (12)
Nathan Huddleston (24)
Manchu -- DakkaDakka (12)
Hollow Echo (12)
Jared Herring (12) 1/2 Yellow 1/2 Green
Minstrel Cottini -- KS Comments (12)
Matt Trussell -- KS Comments (12 Green)
Steven Carroll -- KS Comments (48)
Steve Teubner Jr -- KS Comments (24)
Joe Boster (24)
James Saeli (24) 1/2 Yellow 1/2 Green
Patrick Hutchison -- KS Comments (24)
Dan Wideman (60)
William Stillwell -- KS Comments (48 Green?)
CRT -- KS Comments (12 Green)
Dalsiandon -- Dakka Dakka (24 Green)

696 so far....
Yellow 570 of 500
Green 126

Anybody Else Prefer Green Dice? We might have too many Yellows right now.

Two more days of this, eh?

Hooray.

Mike -- I'll take green/white dice rather than yellow/black dice.

Thanks!