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Joyboozer wrote:
What are they working the weekend on if the truck doesn't arrive until Monday?

If they're remotely sensible? Prepping hundreds of boxes with core boxes, shipping labels, and everything else they need to be ready to accept a Battle Cry Upgrade Unit/Package and then be sealed and fired out of there.

Now, given the past year, it's easy to be snarky, negative, pessimistic and outright cruel about what some folks think of their potential and how sensible they might be, remotely. But that's what I'd do. Load up, check, re-check, and just be ready for it to come in, have a nice clear spot to park a couple pallets of BC upgrades, and go on a massive shipping spree over the course of the day or two following.

In reality? vOv

We'll see.

http://rpgandtactics.blogspot.com.au/2014/09/veritech-battloid-dynamic-poses.html

Another post from the ninjas, reposing veritechs. Not sure about the use of LGS as a sculpting medium, but replacing it with regular GS would work.

From his first couple of posts skimming the blog, he appears to be the guy who bought the game on ebay a few weeks back.

I just lifted the link from a post by ninja div on fb, where does it say he got it from eBay?

Go to the main blog page and it says it on the first or second post.

So he did. Last line of the third post.

Oh well, good for him, and whoever sold it to him.

From the blog address, he's a fellow countryman of yours. There is apparently at least one copy of the game in the wild down under.

Recently from ninja John.

""Our hope is that we have struck a balance with clean posability for skilled modelers, and easy to assemble miniatures with the fewest number of parts needed to meet a complicated approval process, and requirements on detail for the various mecha. @Fern... we have a lot of leg options, and there will be more made available from coming Valkyrie kits that are interchangable with the ones in your VF-1 boxes. The balancing act was hard, but in the end, there is a lot going into these kits. I can't wait to see them painted up.""


Oh and in other news C2 arrived at PB.

Is this on facebook?

 warboss wrote:
Is this on facebook?

Yup.

I was going to ask about the super vf-1 but the answers going to be I should have done my research, isn't it?

These aren't the PB boards. You don't have to worry about that here.

Well then, did the really not have permission for the Super Vf-1, and are we in for a bunch more suprises?

Armoured and supers are in wave 2 aren't they?

I think in one of the updates PB mentioned backers will have the ability to glue the parts however you see fit, or something like that.

Joyboozer wrote:
Well then, did the really not have permission for the Super Vf-1, and are we in for a bunch more suprises?

You're thinking of the Strike, which is from Macross Ai Oboete Imasu Ka, which they did not have the rights for.
The Super and Armored are definitely in Robotech.

 judgedoug wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Well then, did the really not have permission for the Super Vf-1, and are we in for a bunch more suprises?

You're thinking of the Strike, which is from Macross Ai Oboete Imasu Ka, which they did not have the rights for.
The Super and Armored are definitely in Robotech.

There's also the Super VEF, which PB didn't realize for 4 months that they'd committed to, but didn't actually have the rights for either, which was a problem, given it was a stretch goal. I think they did a reasonable job fixing it, but it was (and for some, apparently still is) an issue.

Anyone gotten a shipping notice yet since they now have the second container? I'd expect a few hundred boxes to go out today with all the weeks if prep time they had.

Hopefully we'll have news tonight in an update.

BattleKids 3025+

So my kid (4) saw me open the Battletech Intro box that I bought for the minis more than anything and wanted to play. Normal Alpha Strike is still beyond him but this worked well as I made it up in my head in 30 seconds before setting up the game.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0VSNzmthd1vRlRBVEw2LUNqdUU&usp=sharing

Morgan Vening wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:
Well then, did the really not have permission for the Super Vf-1, and are we in for a bunch more suprises?

You're thinking of the Strike, which is from Macross Ai Oboete Imasu Ka, which they did not have the rights for.
The Super and Armored are definitely in Robotech.

There's also the Super VEF, which PB didn't realize for 4 months that they'd committed to, but didn't actually have the rights for either, which was a problem, given it was a stretch goal. I think they did a reasonable job fixing it, but it was (and for some, apparently still is) an issue.

how was it fixed?

IIRC they said they'd include extra super bits for the KS boxes only (not the retail). They can't hint for you to use them as super VEF parts since they don't have the license but they obviously can't stop you from doing it either; you just won't have any rules, mention, or instructions for it. I don't think all the above was from one source though but there was an update last year about this time that mentioned most of it.


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 Mike1975 wrote:
Hopefully we'll have news tonight in an update.

Hopefully.. One would hope that the big warehouse they showed empty was just chocked full of prelabelled ready to fill and tape boxes so that they can go through and fill and double check an order in only a minute or two in batches of identical ones. That is the hope... but it seems hope has long forgotten this project so maybe only two or three boxes were set up before they got distracted by something more important like migrating geese.

 warboss wrote:
IIRC they said they'd include extra super bits for the KS boxes only (not the retail). They can't hint for you to use them as super VEF parts since they don't have the license but they obviously can't stop you from doing it either; you just won't have any rules, mention, or instructions for it. I don't think all the above was from one source though but there was an update last year about this time that mentioned most of it.

you mean this update?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/rrpgt/robotech-rpg-tacticstm/posts/578809

doesn't sound like they added anything new or fixed it since still don't have all the stuff needed especially the stat card, problem is they corrected the fact they could not give them after the project was funded, which could be very problematic for them.

Asterios wrote:

Morgan Vening wrote:
There's also the Super VEF, which PB didn't realize for 4 months that they'd committed to, but didn't actually have the rights for either, which was a problem, given it was a stretch goal. I think they did a reasonable job fixing it, but it was (and for some, apparently still is) an issue.

how was it fixed?

Fixed as in "offered something else that seemed acceptable to most people". Instead of getting the components for a single Super VEF, backers are getting TWO Super VF-1D's. Like I said, some people (yourself specifically) seem to feel this is a breach of contract issue. But others, myself included at the time, felt it was an acceptable tradeoff. I'm not going to argue the legalities, and what is and isn't permissible, and how the timing of the change impacts that.

I was just saying that for myself, and most of the people who commented at the time, it was considered better than what was initially offered. Now, I've got nothing but disdain for the way PB have conducted themselves since, but I'm not going to pretend it was an UNKNOWN bait and switch, or that knowing what had happened, I was still unhappy. That's not to say that there likely weren't some people that locked in their pledges early, and missed the Update that specifically spelled out the changes two weeks before the Pledge Manager ended. But as I said, comments at the time were almost completely in favor.

Personally, I think the Tomahawk/Defender interchangeability thing was, and is, a much more egregious error. Unlike the Super VEF thing, they neither fixed(as I defined in the first sentence) or admitted it. At least publicly. I have a PM that answered it for me. Not that I think a lawsuit is an acceptable solution, unless the secondary market for RRT falls completely into the crapper, or you don't attempt to sell your pledge prior to shipping (as I did). You're legally permitted to file suit (free country and all), but doing so in an attempt to harm the company (regardless of PB's deceptive/incompetent practices), unless you actually end up out of pocket, just comes across as a dick move.

Ah, that's right I remember it now, just all the KS updates that followed melted my brain.

Also, having watched roughly half a year of lawsuit based bullgak in the comments, can we please not rehash that out here.

We're firmly in "put up or shut up" territory here. The moment someone *actually files a suit* I would be very interested in hearing the details. Until that time, it's just hot air that riles people up and often descends into senseless back and forths about validity of standing and precedent and a ton of crap most of us aren't remotely equipped to weigh on.

I find posting in the kickstarter comments to be so laborious, typing one handed is so slow, if only I could stop shaking my fist at palladium with the other hand!

Joyboozer wrote:
I find posting in the kickstarter comments to be so laborious, typing one handed is so slow, if only I could stop shaking my fist at palladium with the other hand!

Thats how the moderators on the Palladium forums post.

One hand on the keys, the other....shaking whilst thinking of Palladium

Has anyone here got theirs yet? Can they tell me if there's any KS exclusiv stuff inside, or is it just some of the standard retail box content?

NTRabbit wrote:
Has anyone here got theirs yet? Can they tell me if there's any KS exclusive stuff inside, or is it just some of the standard retail box content?

Some people have received orders that included the core box only, or just had some "Wave One" items (VTs, Destroids other than the MAC II, battle pods, support pods, command pods). They lacked one of the Destroid expansion boxes and VT expansion boxes, so they couldn't send out "battle cry" boxes (what most people pledged for, singly or in multiples) until container #2 arrived.

There is some KS exclusive stuff, but most of it can (at their discretion) also be available at conventions as well, and none of it it shipping with Wave One. Wave 2 has a tentative delivery target of "when it's done". Was supposed to be the end of this year, but that has long been a pipe dream. The 'safe' bet seems to be late next year, but I wouldn't put money on it showing up in 2015, given that it has taken them nearly two years just to deliver on the first dozen'ish sprues, and wave two might have twice as many to prototype, test and do production runs on.

Long story short; the core box is the same one you'll get at retail, as are the expansions. Other than a limited run of Battlefoam bags, we're mostly just getting the 'chaff' units now (as in, the stuff we'll be fielding by the dozen).

NTRabbit wrote:
Has anyone here got theirs yet? Can they tell me if there's any KS exclusiv stuff inside, or is it just some of the standard retail box content?

Can't speak to receiving, but last information was that Container 2 arrived in the last day or so, which was required to start sending out BattleCry pledges. Prior to that, only the retail box pledge level (First Contact) was able to be shipped. There will be no KS exclusive stuff with BattleCry in Wave 1 (what's shipping this year), it will be the retail box, with about twice the normal amount of miniatures, though some of those will be ones not normally included in the base box (Spartan, Phalanx and Zentradi Artillery). However, those items WILL be available in the first wave of retail, which is currently scheduled for September*. But by their own often repeated statement, won't be until AFTER** all KS pledges have shipped***.

* Still find it funny that their cut and paste press releases and webstore still list September.

** Assuming they can be trusted at their word, they've already doubled back on that several times so far throughout the campaign.

*** It was initially "until after all KS pledges had been received", but recently they've quietly stuck in the new wording, else EU/RoW shipments would significantly delay the retail release, and missing Christmas for retail is problematic, given all the other missed release dates.