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As promised a few more sprue pics

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0VSNzmthd1vNnB4UWlYZEJfcU0&usp=sharing

Here is the FB page where that pic came from. https://www.facebook.com/RobotechRPGTacticsSoCal

Once again Mike not giving credit to pics. There are a bunch more pics on that group. Look great! Not a real fan of the all black Valks, but whatever floats your boat.

 Mike1975 wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:

 Forar wrote:
From now on Mike's posts get a [Clarification Needed] tag.
:-P

Agreed, usually some preamble of "not my work but this person's..." is in order.
I figured he was fanboy enough he got into it frothing at the mouth (not drooling as PB would have us) so did not question this much.
We will keep an eye on this one...

Normally I'd have some put together and painted by now, and nowhere near as good as that pic. I've had too many work projects put on my plate plus school to have time to paint. Besides, you can't paint in the office and pretend you are doing something else.

I did get 3 BC's, decided 2 was more than enough, and someone offered to paint it all plus my add-ons for the price of one of my 3 Battlecries. So some of my order and his stuff is boxed and is ready to ship out today.

Fruity.....posted soon after the pic....I don't do it as a purposeful oversight if that is what you are trying to intimate. I don't always credit my own stuff either. I post it simply to share.


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Oh and since it was share via that site to my FB page I would not know who did it unless I spent the time to go to the SC site and take down his name and even then he might not want his name shared around.

An exact credit isn't necessary, but merely noting that it was found on the wider interwebs or whatever is generally prudent.

Especially since the vast majority of backers don't have their stuff yet, thus meaning there simply aren't that many people whom even could build and paint up models (and we know you're one of them).

"Hey, look what some dude did" gives context that it is not, in fact, yours.

Mike, so then we only have to hate you for getting stuff before us rather than getting to build, paint AND having amazing painting skills which would put it over the top.

 Talizvar wrote:
Mike, so then we only have to hate you for getting stuff before us rather than getting to build, paint AND having amazing painting skills which would put it over the top.

Haven't painted in over 20 years and I'm OCD enough that I'd spend 3 days on one mini till it was perfect and it would likely take me that long. With life I just don't have the time right now to be honest.

Well, hopefully the dude you're working with can turn around the figures in a reasonable timeframe and you get results you can be happy with.

 Mike1975 wrote:

 Mike1975 wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:

 Forar wrote:
From now on Mike's posts get a [Clarification Needed] tag.
:-P

Agreed, usually some preamble of "not my work but this person's..." is in order.
I figured he was fanboy enough he got into it frothing at the mouth (not drooling as PB would have us) so did not question this much.
We will keep an eye on this one...

Normally I'd have some put together and painted by now, and nowhere near as good as that pic. I've had too many work projects put on my plate plus school to have time to paint. Besides, you can't paint in the office and pretend you are doing something else.

I did get 3 BC's, decided 2 was more than enough, and someone offered to paint it all plus my add-ons for the price of one of my 3 Battlecries. So some of my order and his stuff is boxed and is ready to ship out today.

Fruity.....posted soon after the pic....I don't do it as a purposeful oversight if that is what you are trying to intimate. I don't always credit my own stuff either. I post it simply to share.


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Oh and since it was share via that site to my FB page I would not know who did it unless I spent the time to go to the SC site and take down his name and even then he might not want his name shared around.

It takes roughly 5 seconds to click a photo on FB, look in the upper right where it's shared from, go there, and copy the link and past it. I'm not trying to be a dick but you seem to have a history of just linking to other's information and photos and not giving credit until you're called out on it. Just take the time to do it, it's not hard, and it's polite!

fruitlewps wrote:

 Mike1975 wrote:

 Mike1975 wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:

 Forar wrote:
From now on Mike's posts get a [Clarification Needed] tag.
:-P

Agreed, usually some preamble of "not my work but this person's..." is in order.
I figured he was fanboy enough he got into it frothing at the mouth (not drooling as PB would have us) so did not question this much.
We will keep an eye on this one...

Normally I'd have some put together and painted by now, and nowhere near as good as that pic. I've had too many work projects put on my plate plus school to have time to paint. Besides, you can't paint in the office and pretend you are doing something else.

I did get 3 BC's, decided 2 was more than enough, and someone offered to paint it all plus my add-ons for the price of one of my 3 Battlecries. So some of my order and his stuff is boxed and is ready to ship out today.

Fruity.....posted soon after the pic....I don't do it as a purposeful oversight if that is what you are trying to intimate. I don't always credit my own stuff either. I post it simply to share.


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Oh and since it was share via that site to my FB page I would not know who did it unless I spent the time to go to the SC site and take down his name and even then he might not want his name shared around.

It takes roughly 5 seconds to click a photo on FB, look in the upper right where it's shared from, go there, and copy the link and past it. I'm not trying to be a dick but you seem to have a history of just linking to other's information and photos and not giving credit until you're called out on it. Just take the time to do it, it's not hard, and it's polite!

Actually it is more than that. I have to copy and paste the picture somewhere else first since if I put a link to FB and it is a closed site people won't see the picture. It's happened several times before.

For those non-FB people, some important notes. The Zen Regult sprues have 6 feet on them. They are kinda heart shaped. The wider portion goes forward. There are also 4 textured bottom feet and 2 plain ones. The 2 plain ones are for feet flat on the ground and the other 4 are for feet in motion. So be careful, you have the benefit of learning from other peoples mistakes.

That's from ND. I recognise the playmat

Just got my stuff today . Impressed but when I started to glue them together with plastic glue . The don't glue properly . Started to use zap a gap on them hope this works . Any one else having problems putting there miniatures together ?

Matt are you using a glue compatible with ABS plastic?

This is the first report I've read about glue not working I'm really curious what the brand is.

I think we did cover this somewhere in this thread about needing ABS glue.
I had this same problem with my Battletech starter box set and nothing gluing.

What does not work: Red and white tube Testors glue, Tamiya white or green cap glue.

What does work: crazy glue works but is not a "weld", Tamiya blue cap, Plastruct weld cement (recommended by many including me), Model Master liquid cement.

Important: Basically the primary ingredient to get the weld is MEK: Methyl Ethyl Ketone also known as Butanone.
Just ventilate real well and try not to get it on your skin, it is a nasty solvent.

Every bottled brush-on plastic glue that I know about will dissolve/melt/bond ABS plastic. I have yet to encounter one that doesn't.

I've got Tamiya Orange/Amber/Kachchi?
http://www.tamiyausa.com/items/paints-finishes-60/finishing-supplies-62000/plastic-cement-20ml-87012

abs cement?
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-8-oz-ABS-Cement-in-Black-308893/100345366

I'm getting this to be safe
http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/pls/pls00002.htm

For those of you not on facebook, do not be alarmed when your box arrives and does not have a full set of faction cards.

You only get the cards for the units you actually have, and there are a bunch of malcontent faction cards missing.

This is rough because there is no available source of information on the factions upgrades outside of the leaked playtesting rules.

So how are you supposed to get the other cards?

Or are they just for convenience during play, and all of the stats are in the book?

The stats for the mechs are in the book but the point costs, formations, and unit upgrades are all on the cards and not in the book.

And as far as I know Palladium doesn't know, so no one knows right now.

We are essentially missing rules.

 Desert Lurker wrote:

I'm getting this to be safe
http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/pls/pls00002.htm

That is the absolute best thing you can get, for any plastic model.

 Swabby wrote:
For those of you not on facebook, do not be alarmed when your box arrives and does not have a full set of faction cards.

You only get the cards for the units you actually have, and there are a bunch of malcontent faction cards missing.

This is rough because there is no available source of information on the factions upgrades outside of the leaked playtesting rules.

Not exactly, the base stats for all units are in the book. The Mecha cards, the ones shaped like playing cards have all the mecha stats on them. The Squadron Cards, the bigger ones have all the squadron level upgrades on them but not the individual unit stats, that is what the Mecha cards are for. The Tiny cards have the support squads and special units on them. Cards for units like the Female Power Armor are not in the Main Box since those units will be in add-ons and wave 2. Cards for add-ons are in the add-on boxes.

Here is a list of cards someone made that are in the pledge


Got my box yesterday . I don't think anyone has posted pics of the cards yet, so here they are. Let me break down the cards for you.

Box Set:

Large cards:


UEDF
UEDF Force
Armored Destroid Squadron
Area Denial Destroid Squadron
Valkyrie Squadron

Mal
Malcontents

Zen
Zentradi Armada
Regult Attack Squadron
Regult Attrition Squadron
Regult Recon Squadron

Regular cards:

UEDF
VF-1A
VF-1J
VF-1S
VF-1R
Tomahawk
Defender
9 UEDF Special characters

Zen
Glaug
Regult
Regult Recon Scout
Recovery Pod
9 Zentradi Special Characters

Tiny cards:

UEDF
Command Destroid Upgrade
2 Tomahawk Squad
2 Defender Squad
2 Valkyrie Squad
2 VF-1S
2 VF-1R Upgrade

Zen
Glaug
2 Regult Squad
Regult Recon Scout
Recovery Pod

Battle Cry Bonus Bag:

Large Cards:

UEDF
2 Valkyrie Squad
Fire Support Destroid Squad
Close Quarters Destroid Squad
Artillery Destroid Squad

Mal
2 Air Superiority Squad
2 Ground Attack Squad
Light Raider Squad
Mixed Infantry Squad
Artillery Support Squad

Zen
2 Regult Attack Squad
2 Regult Attrition Squad
2 Regulr Recon Squad
Regult Artillery Squad

Regular Cards:

UEFD
2 VF-1A
2 VF-1J
2 VF-1S
2 VF-1R
Phalanx Destroid
Spartan Destroid

Zen
2 Regult
Glaug
Regult Recon Scout
Recovery Pod
Heavy Art Pod
Light Art Pod
Particle Art Pod

Tiny Cards:

UEDF
2 Valkyrie Squad
4 VF-1S
4 VF-1R Upgrade
Command Destroid Upgrade
Phalanx Destroid Squad
Spartan Destroid Squad

Mal
Glaug
3 Regult Squad
Regult Recon Scout
2 Suppport Destroid Squad
2 Valkyrie Squad
4 VF-1R Upgrade

Zen
Glaug
2 Regult Squad
Regult Recon Scout
2 Heavy Art Pod
2 Light Art Pod
2 Particle Art Pod
Recovery Pod

So I guess wave two will contain the cards pertinent to the mechs that ship with it, along with the requisite squad/support/special cards.

Which makes sense. Making, printing and shipping FPA cards when we don't have FPA doesn't make much sense. It'll be things that would be sensible to include those within the figure boxes at retail.

... quietly ignoring the hundreds (?) of people who have LE Miriya figures and thus, have FPA they can't use until they become available. >.>

We are missing rules.

The malcontent forces have unique upgrades. Those upgrades are not listed in the books, they are on the squadron cards. Squadron cards for units we have all the models for are not included in the kickstarter delivery. Therefore we do not have access to those rules.




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Forar they included cards with the FPA on them, but excluded cards that we have all the models for, like the malcontent heavy destroid squad.



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And even discounting the upgrades the squadron point costs are on the cards and not in the book. If you do not know where to find that info online outside of the game you cannot make a decent malcontent list right now using the models on hand.

There is one malcontent list possible with the provided cards at the battlecry level.

It consists of:

Core: Light Raider Squadron
Special: Glaug or Quel-Regult
Support: Regult Squad

Core: Artillery Support Squadron
special: Glaug or Quel-Regult
support: Regult Squad.

That list comes out to like 320 points assuming you take all maximum priced upgrades. This (or less points) are your only choices with the given cards in the box.

*facepalm*

...

*sigh*

...

*halfhearted jazz hands*

 Swabby wrote:
We are missing rules.

The malcontent forces have unique upgrades. Those upgrades are not listed in the books, they are on the squadron cards. Squadron cards for units we have all the models for are not included in the kickstarter delivery. Therefore we do not have access to those rules.




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Forar they included cards with the FPA on them, but excluded cards that we have all the models for, like the malcontent heavy destroid squad.



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And even discounting the upgrades the squadron point costs are on the cards and not in the book. If you do not know where to find that info online outside of the game you cannot make a malcontent list right now using the models on hand.

After looking in close this is what it looks like based on that list.

Large cards:

UEDF
UEDF Force
Armored Destroid Squadron
Area Denial Destroid Squadron
Valkyrie Squadron
2 Valkyrie Squad
Fire Support Destroid Squad
Close Quarters Destroid Squad
Artillery Destroid Squad
Missing  Brawler Destroid
Wave 2  Ghost, Lancer, Super VT,
Wave 2 Add-Ons Only  Armored Valk, Jotun, YF-4

Mal
Malcontents
2 Air Superiority Squad
2 Ground Attack Squad
Light Raider Squad
Mixed Infantry Squad
Artillery Support Squad
Missing  Air Defense Squadron, Artillery Support Squadron, Heavy Destroid Squadron
Wave 2  Armored Assault Squadron, Assault Recon Squadron, Main Battle Squadron, Super Valkyrie Squadron, Zentraedi Assault Squadron
Wave 2 Add-Ons Only 

Zen
Zentradi Armada
Regult Attack Squadron
Regult Attrition Squadron
Regult Recon Squadron
2 Regult Attack Squad
2 Regult Attrition Squad
2 Regulr Recon Squad
Regult Artillery Squad
Missing  None
Wave 2  Gnerl Attack Squadron, Mousgarma-Ger Squadron, Nousjadeul-Ger Squadron, Queadluun-Gult Squadron, Queadluu-Rau Squadron
Wave 2 Add-Ons Only  Zen Heavy Infantry Squadron, Zen Light Infantry Squadron, Glaug-Eldare Squadron







Regular cards:

UEDF
VF-1A
VF-1J
VF-1S
VF-1R
Tomahawk
Defender
9 UEDF Special characters
2 VF-1A
2 VF-1J
2 VF-1S
2 VF-1R
Phalanx Destroid
Spartan Destroid
Missing  None
Wave 2  Ghost, Lancer, Super VF-1A, Super VF-1D, Super VF-1J, Super VF-1S
Wave 2 Add-Ons Only  Monster, Armored VF-1A, Armored VF-1D, Armored VF-1J, Armored VF-1S, Jotun VF-1A. Jotun VF-1D, Jotun VF-1J, Jotun VF-1S, VEF-1, VF-1D, YF-4, YF-4 Lead

Zen
Glaug
Regult
Regult Recon Scout
Recovery Pod
9 Zentradi Special Characters
2 Regult
Glaug
Regult Recon Scout
Recovery Pod
Heavy Art Pod
Light Art Pod
Particle Art Pod
Missing  None
Wave 2  Gnerl, MPA Upgrade, MPA, FPA Upgrade, FPA
Wave 2 Add-Ons Only  Glaug-Eldare, Gluu-Ger Infantry, Serau-Ger Infantry










Tiny cards:

UEDF
Command Destroid Upgrade
2 Tomahawk Squad
2 Defender Squad
2 Valkyrie Squad
2 VF-1S
2 VF-1R Upgrade
2 Valkyrie Squad
4 VF-1S
4 VF-1R Upgrade
Command Destroid Upgrade
Phalanx Destroid Squad
Spartan Destroid Squad
Missing  VF-1J?
Wave 2  Ghost Squad, Lancer Squad, Super VT Squad, Super VF-1D, Super VF-1J?, Super VF-1S,
Wave 2 Add-Ons Only  Armored VTs, Armored VF-1D, Armored VF-1S, Armored VF-1J?, Monster, Jotun Squad, Jotun VF-1D, Jotun VF-1J?, Jotun VF-1S, VEF-1, VF-1D, YF-4 Squad

Zen
Glaug
2 Regult Squad
Regult Recon Scout
Recovery Pod
Glaug
2 Regult Squad
Regult Recon Scout
2 Heavy Art Pod
2 Light Art Pod
2 Particle Art Pod
Recovery Pod
Missing  VF-1J?
Wave 2  Queadluun-Gult, Queadluun-Rau, Nousgarma-Ger, Nousjadeul-Ger Squad, Gnerl Squad
Wave 2 Add-Ons Only  Zen Heavy Inf Squad, Zen Light Infantry Squad, Zen Officer Upgrade

Mal
Glaug
3 Regult Squad
Regult Recon Scout
2 Suppport Destroid Squad
2 Valkyrie Squad
4 VF-1R Upgrade
Missing  Assault Destroid Squad
Wave 2  Gnerl Squad, Queadluun-Rau, Super Valkyrie,
Wave 2 Add-Ons Only  Armored VT Squad, Command Monster, Zen Heavy Infantry Squad, Infantry Officer Upgrade, Zen Light Infantry Squad

So we are missing the Brawler Destroid Squadron, the Air Defense Squadron, Artillery Support Squadron, Heavy Destroid Squadron and possibly the Assault Destroid Squad cards

What I dont get is why we have some of the cards we do have? Like the zentradi mixed infantry squad, when they are nearly all wave 2 models while missing the wave one stuff.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0VSNzmthd1vT3lJSTVjcmtOa00/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0VSNzmthd1vajIzaEw5N1BiSUk/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0VSNzmthd1vTHVHWHNXWDR6UTg/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0VSNzmthd1vOWloQjBCNWNhcms/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0VSNzmthd1vbV8zU0Y1UWtDQkE/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0VSNzmthd1va29LclJDN0JOS2M/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0VSNzmthd1vczBibnlVVWN5eTg/view?usp=sharing

My versions of those cards

Mike, I actually got the artillery support card, is yours missing?

And do you have like a faction .zip file for all the cards?


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Also, why is the Assault destroid squad only a base 2 command points when there are 4 mecha in it? Actually alot of these cards seem to have command points that are kind of all over, am I missing something? I thought command points were # of mecha in the squad, plus one per point of leadership, mecha with life is cheap do not count normally.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B0VSNzmthd1vSlYtU04xVTlYdWc&usp=sharing