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That is how I felt about the yes/no votes. If you voted yes that instantly should have kicked your shipment to the back of the line.

Palladium shipping to other people before backers? Why am I not surprised.

 Jihadin wrote:

 Spartan-Kun wrote:
I might be enlisting in the marines in the very near future...I'd REALLY like to get my RRT before then >.>

You are not spending crap during your entire time at Boot. Actually just the basics. So you might actually have a flush bank account. There be times when you can call home and tell mom/dad to make a purchase for you so once all your training done. Including that advance infantry you all get regardless of MOS and get to permanent party (unit) you will have plenty to assemble and paint

I'm wanting to go into Recon, if I can't do that then Infantry. I'm counting on being deployed, that way when I get back I can just make some BIG A$$ orders of miniatures/anime/manga :3

I find it honestly hilarious that PB's stuff keeps getting flagged for customs inspection. If that's true I'd take those odds to Vegas. I really wonder if it's not just some half-ass excuse however.

 Spartan-Kun wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:

 Spartan-Kun wrote:
I might be enlisting in the marines in the very near future...I'd REALLY like to get my RRT before then >.>

You are not spending crap during your entire time at Boot. Actually just the basics. So you might actually have a flush bank account. There be times when you can call home and tell mom/dad to make a purchase for you so once all your training done. Including that advance infantry you all get regardless of MOS and get to permanent party (unit) you will have plenty to assemble and paint

I'm wanting to go into Recon, if I can't do that then Infantry. I'm counting on being deployed, that way when I get back I can just make some BIG A$$ orders of miniatures/anime/manga :3

So...you wanna play soldier for reals in order to afford to play with toy soldiers?

Uhm...cool?

I hadn't started miniatures games when I decided I wanted to enlist. So no that's not the case ^^;;

I'm sure it's because Palladium is woefully upset that they couldn't sell at Gen Con like they had promised they'd do, so they need to send the Gen Con purchasers their items first to make up for the bruised feelings of not being able to provide product to them at time of purchase. Priorities man.

Did any of you guys actually read that thread?

To what in particular are you referring, because it was ambiguous as feth, and given that it's a month old, probably a non-issue.

Also, why are we talking in Bold now?

It might a touch of "Righteous Indignation", maybe?

Either way, it probably shouldn't continue.

Because this was the reaction:

 Swabby wrote:
This thread makes it sound like this guy ordered at Gencon and he is getting his stuff shipped prior to kickstarter fullfillment.

 Kendachi wrote:
Yeah, that is exactly what he's saying. Time to warm up the torch-fork ballista and drag it up to Michigan.

 Forar wrote:
somehow I don't find this at all surprising

Sining wrote:
Palladium shipping to other people before backers? Why am I not surprised.

 stanman wrote:
I'm sure it's because Palladium is woefully upset that they couldn't sell at Gen Con like they had promised they'd do, so they need to send the Gen Con purchasers their items first to make up for the bruised feelings of not being able to provide product to them at time of purchase. Priorities man.

despite the user on the forum saying that he had not received anything: "Ordered it?, yes. Got it?, no. I was just happy to start getting e-mails about the shipping and having knowledge that the process is moving along."

Sure Alpharius, I'd love it if uninformed reactionary nonsense like the above quotes would not continue, but I doubt that will actually happen.

Just like all the pledgers who had their status changed to shipping but then have later received a confirmation and tracking email?

We love to bash PB so much that we jump to conclusions out of habit.

Keep it real and on the level......

So, I wonder, do you think in the week of inactivity due to waiting for C3/4, PB did the smart thing, and started on the paperwork necessary for international orders? Given they have all the relevant information now (box size/weight, addresses etc), it's a cumbersome exercise, but hell, it needs to be done, and doing it during packing would be a PITA, slowing the process down further. And with only two weeks or so left until "everything is shipped", it'd make sense, no?

It would make sense, since I am not in their office I have no idea what they are doing and anything WE would say would be pure conjecture either way.

 judgedoug wrote:

 Forar wrote:
somehow I don't find this at all surprising

If you're going to quote someone, how about you don't snip just the part you like.

Which is still ire worthy, but considering the results of the "vote" where they were going to just sell hundreds of boxes to anyone with the money up front, somehow I don't find this at all surprising.

That is a factual statement. They DID ask about selling to people in advance, and thus, them actually selling to people in advance would not be surprising.

Don't try to twist my words to make me look like some frothing 'hater'. That is a thing they did, and thus shipping pre-orders would not be out of line with their previous stances/statements and attempted actions.

They only didn't start selling to random folks over a month and a half before they were even able to ship to ~90% of backers (BC+) because Customs and Fate flipped them the bird.

Bad form. If you're going to debate someone, debate the point they have made, not the point you want them to have made.

It's doubly funny in that you include me in what appears to be a list of 'overreactions', when my post is concluded with "Mehhhhhhhhhhh."

Yeah, really lashing out there. I'm a threat to myself and others.

Clearly.

They said they were working on Wave 2 stuff in one of the things.

 Desert Lurker wrote:
They said they were working on Wave 2 stuff in one of the things.

That they did. It was an aside in Update 162.

Shipping has taken up much of our time, but in other areas, Jeff has gone through the current batch of 3Ds for Wave Two, but I still need to do another review of any remaining issues and pass them onto the engineers. Going to do that next week.

It's vague/ambiguous, but it's present all the same.

Morgan Vening wrote:
So, I wonder, do you think in the week of inactivity due to waiting for C3/4, PB did the smart thing, and started on the paperwork necessary for international orders? Given they have all the relevant information now (box size/weight, addresses etc), it's a cumbersome exercise, but hell, it needs to be done, and doing it during packing would be a PITA, slowing the process down further. And with only two weeks or so left until "everything is shipped", it'd make sense, no?

I'd bet real money they haven't even figured out how they're going to ship international, let alone started paperwork.

Judgedog the user did not mention that he had not received anything until later when asked. If you read the thread without that statement it reads like his box was on the way.

It isn't being shipped and it is a non issue. Totally worth looking into however due to palladiums behavior during this whole kickstarter.

 Swabby wrote:
Judgedog the user did not mention that he had not received anything until later when asked. If you read the thread without that statement it reads like his box was on the way.

It isn't being shipped and it is a non issue. Totally worth looking into however due to palladiums behavior during this whole kickstarter.

Not Completely Accurate

"Okay, I just recieved an e-mail from Palladium, informing of the RPG tactics shipping.

I feel better now. One, they definitely have my e-mail address. Two, product is on it's way."

No mention of a tracking number or anything as reported by every pledger so far. So while the assumption made is understandable, it was an assumption, a false one, on the part of many.

The guy posted it and we looked into it, there was no assumption. If we assumed there wouldn't have been any followup.

If that was not your assumption then I apologize, from many comments that WAS the assumption of many others not just on this forum.

It was absolutely worth looking into but it didn't hold up to scrutiny. Case closed.

Yeah, I'm thinking some people are getting a little sensitive to even perceived critique / "drama".

It was initially questionable, didn't hold up to even baseline questioning, we're back to waiting for them to have Container 3 and/or 4 show up so they can start shipping BC's again. Hopefully 5 arrives when they need it as well. Some people getting boxes helped direct conversation/interest. This lengthy gap in the process is letting some of those old frustrations simmer up through the cracks again.

However, delivering boxes also leads to needing to recognize that as people get the game and start playing the game, they need to address FAQ/errata issues, as discussed in the other thread.

PB needs to open the floodgates and ship pre-orders and retail so we can be so busy with hater posts that time for shipment will fly by...

Funny, now that the final delays are a little more concrete and logical, I have moved on to worry that Wave 2 will come out in two years or more.

There really is just no pleasing those gaming folk!

I am honestly more concerned with missing cards and questionable or missing rules right now.

It would sure be nice to know all the options that my mecha have or dont have before I glue them together.

Just got the copy I ordered from GenCon! Can't wait to build it when I get home!

Really?

 Swabby wrote:
Really?

Yeup. Just confirmed by the wife.

The text exhange was:

"WTF is this big ass box sitting on our porch."

I have no idea! I haven't ordered anything recently. (Knowing this is a lie)

" Well there's something here and the box looks like it'll fit those stupid Brimstone boxes"

(At this point I figured out it's probably Robotech) Who does it say its from?

"Palladium......Games......WTF Sean, I thought you didn't order anything recently"

I didn't

"Is this another Kickstarter. Dammit, I'm going to download a child blocker and block you from that site"

So.. yeah

From the kickstarter or ordered at gencon?

And yeah man it is a big ass box.