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I'm not sure it's an acronym.

No Muy Inteligente

From a guy that has been volunteering;

Here we go again. Okay. When Wayne prints out packing slips for shipping, he sorts the outstanding fulfillment orders into groups based on what they ordered. First contact, Battlecry, Battlecry + decals, Battlecry+ other stuff. Within those sorted groups, the fulfillment orders in those groups are naturally sorted by backer #, but because of the criteria decided upon for sorting, trying to gauge by backer number is impossible. Yes, Backer number X will be boxed and shipped before Backer # X+1 in the same group, but because the distribution of those groups is random based upon what the backers selected for their pledge rewards. It has the appearance of randomness.

So, basically what NMI said is only partially true.

Backer 5 might get their stuff after backer 10, but before backer 1 if #1 has some weird stuff added on.

Also, they claimed to have been shipping out 1,000 boxes with Container #2.

They said they sent out ~700 boxes last week, and were planning to send another ~1,000 this weekend (apparently they have 800 boxed up to go, according to Wayne, with more to pack up.

That's ~2,500 boxes. There are only 3,000 backers (minus international contributors, people who didn't pay and those that upgraded to Showdown+, plus however many upgraded to BC post campaign, and anyone they let in 'after the fact', which they advertised being an option and some have commented on.

That doesn't seem to add up. Apparently they hope to start hitting Showdowns on Tuesday? How do we have 2,500+ boxes out of 3,000 being US backers? I mean, I find it hard to believe that international backers are that heavily represented in higher tiers, or somehow this campaign is 75%+ US (half, sure. Two thirds? Maybe. Three quarters or more? Starting to see less likely).

It's possible that that's how it is, or I'm missing a variable, but Occam's Razor is telling me that maybe some of those numbers have been, ahhh, generously rounded.

Edit: more news "from the front".

And yes, I was back this weekend. All weekend. Other than taking some time off to move, I intend to be there until the task is done. (Barring my work obligations) As something for the international backers, there was practical discussion on the best methods of packaging the international orders with the boxes that were ordered (A comment that the fufillment house for EU orders stated that all shipments should be packed as small as possible to conserve space and keep down cost.) Because of the geometry of the components (Particularly those who ordered battlefoam bags) and the varieties of box ordered, some custom cutting work will have to be done for some EU orders and the strategy for that was discussed today and a few minutes were taken experimenting with different layouts to get the most effective use of space with the least amount of manual steps needed to save time and prevent possible worker injury while trimming boxes.

Cut the boxes, stop being so wordy, you have work to do.

 Alpharius wrote:
What does "NMI" stand for again?

Not Much Intelligence

Rule One is Be Polite. Dakka Dakka is not the place to make personal attacks on people from another forum.

Thanks

Manchu I am beginning to suspect you are a bit impartial here.

NMI has been a complete ass in every other forum we have had interactions with him. Dakka has always been brutally honest about such things and has been a hotbed of critisism of personalities from other companies (matt ward for example)

It might be time to just post in here as a gamer and get another mod to moderate, you seem to be taking a pretty hard slant in the one place that we can vent without having a fanboy influence.

 Alpharius wrote:
What does "NMI" stand for again?

No More Intelligence.lol


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Never mind I've been ninja'd. I also agree with what Swabby said about Manchu.

I think it is time for some clarity on this "venting" issue.

Dakka Dakka is an independent forum. There is no moderation policy whatsoever concerning protecting any company. I cannot tell you how often I hear that Dakka Dakka stamps out criticism of GW. But I can tell you it is about the same amount as I hear that Dakka Dakka stamps out support of GW. The truth is we do neither -- not with regard to GW or any other company, including Palladium and Ninja Division.

Members are 100% free to criticize any product or company on Dakka Dakka. Members are also 100% free to argue against such criticisms. The resulting dialog, however, is not a carve out regarding the same rules that apply to posting generally. And Rule Number One is Be Polite. It should be absolutely clear that personal attacks are not polite, whether or not the target is a member here. There is no "venting" exception to our forum rules. As is the case on any other issue, members who cannot follow the rules will not be allowed to post.

While I think it shows poor taste and bad judgment to bring drama from another forum or website here to Dakka Dakka, doing so is not necessarily against our rules as long as the conversation remains polite and does not entail personal attacks. Just to be completely clear -- making personal attacks on NMI or any other PB or Ninja Division employee is not acceptable here. This is the second warning I have had to post on this matter in this thread. It will also be the last.

If anyone has any questions about the rules, please PM me or start a thread in the Nuts & Bolts sub-forum. This thread will not become a referendum on forum rules and posts to that effect will be deleted.

As to the question of me being impartial -- I am not impartial at all. I think PB has done an overall terrible job communicating to us backers, regardless of the recent improvements. I also think the product they have delivered so far is of good quality. That applies to both miniatures and rules. I have started to assemble my Zents and I have started to use them playing RRT. IMO the minis are good and the rules make for a smooth, fun game.

Impartiality toward this product or the companies involved in making it is in no way a requirement for me or anyone else to moderate this thread. Let me say, I think that is one of the absolute lowest and slimiest kinds of argument leveled against moderators. Personally attacking a moderator from another site, insulting his intelligence and calling him a complete ass, is obviously unacceptable behavior and there is no excuse for it. Attacking me is probably the worst excuse someone could try to make for it, although "but it's true" is a close second.

I want my Showdown + Battlecry so badly >.< I'd give my left nut to have all my plastic crack right now.

I have found it to be very much worth the wait so far. That said, I'm sure I will be pining away for Wave 2 (power armor FTW) once I get well and truly tired of having my regults blown away.

Only things in wave two I really want are the Super VT's, Armored VT's and Monster. I'm not a huge Zent fan.

Well I suspect we both have a long wait ahead.

As for the factions, I like both equally I guess. I am not looking forward to assembling Valks, however, as they seem way too fiddly. I bet they will paint up very nicely, however.

I don't mind fiddly minis, it's alright if they take a little longer to assemble. I just can't wait to remake the Strike Witches JFW's in veritech form lol

If I end up enlisting I don't know when I'll get to enjoy it all T.T

The fiddly bits do tend to annoy me. I already accidentally snapped the minuscule nose antenna, or whatever it was, that was supposed to go on my glaug.

 Cypher-xv wrote:
Straight from FB.

"From NMI
""We're not going by backer numbers. We're going by for lack of a better phrase what was ordered. we have, have completed all the pure battle cry / no add on only orders today. Next will be possibly show down or something similar. I will try and give it more accurate update later on this evening.""

""I don't want to say anything specific regarding showdown out any shipping proce/timetables. I can safely say that showdown's "should" be going out soon.""

LOLWUT?! So why don't the 2 people I know with "pure battle cry" pledges have shipping notices? BS..

EDIT: No need to be impolite, true enough.

fruitlewps wrote:

 Cypher-xv wrote:
Straight from FB.

"From NMI
""We're not going by backer numbers. We're going by for lack of a better phrase what was ordered. we have, have completed all the pure battle cry / no add on only orders today. Next will be possibly show down or something similar. I will try and give it more accurate update later on this evening.""

""I don't want to say anything specific regarding showdown out any shipping proce/timetables. I can safely say that showdown's "should" be going out soon.""

LOLWUT?! So why don't the 2 people I know with "pure battle cry" pledges have shipping notices? BS..

Because they are shipping out without sending notices?

This should help clarify what NMI posted from another backer who volunteered this weekend.


""Here we go again. Okay. When Wayne prints out packing slips for shipping, he sorts the outstanding fulfillment orders into groups based on what they ordered. First contact, Battlecry, Battlecry + decals, Battlecry+ other stuff. Within those sorted groups, the fulfillment orders in those groups are naturally sorted by backer #, but because of the criteria decided upon for sorting, trying to gauge by backer number is impossible. Yes, Backer number X will be boxed and shipped before Backer # X+1 in the same group, but because the distribution of those groups is random based upon what the backers selected for their pledge rewards. It has the appearance of randomness.""


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On Wayne's twitter account he mentions SD pledges might start shipping out on Tuesday.

edit - moved rules review to Rules thread per mod request

Huh. Wonder what happened.

Didn't wayne say in an update that they were going to ship by backer number? Am I just remembering that incorrectly?

They originally said they were shipping by Backerkit number.

The fans determined that KS Backer number was far more accurate.

Basically it boils down to:

US > Order Size/Complexity (essentially Smallest to Largest) > Backer Number

 Forar wrote:
US > Order Size/Complexity (essentially Smallest to Largest) > Backer Number

I think that explains why I got my Battlecry so quickly but still not among the very first. I'm in the US, got Battlecry with no add ons, and my backer number was 323 (backer kit number being 2212).

 Manchu wrote:

 Forar wrote:
US > Order Size/Complexity (essentially Smallest to Largest) > Backer Number

I think that explains why I got my Battlecry so quickly but still not among the very first. I'm in the US, got Battlecry with no add ons, and my backer number was 323 (backer kit number being 2212).

Righto, I got a Battlecry with only Wave 2 add-ons, so effectively just a Battlecry, and my backer number was 26 or whatever.

 Alpharius wrote:
What does "NMI" stand for again?

No Middle Initial. At least that's what the US military uses it for. A relative of mine served in the Navy and didn't have a middle initial so he got the NMI designation because with typical .mil bureaucratic efficiency if you don't have a single initial for your middle name they give you three.

I also snapped the barrel on one of my Glaug chin autocannons. The only part yet to be badly molded in my opinion. I'm replacing them with round headed sewing pins cut short. In my first 2 games so far I've found the Regaults very powerful if kept close and supporting each other. So far its been Zents 2, Valks 0. I'm liking it!

Yeah those chin cannons are extremely brittle. I also snapped a couple of the scout pods antenna on the same sprue.

Guitar wire

Looks like SD's will begin shipping tomorrow. Here's Kevin's latest rant.


1000 RRT packages shipped today! October 27, 2014

Approximately 1,000 packages of Robotech® RPG Tactics™, give or take a couple dozen, shipped today, Monday, October 27, 2014. We lost count after 900 and something. We worked all weekend and Monday on processing Kickstarter rewards for backers. With the help of a half dozen volunteers (Thank you -- NMI/Jeff, Chris, Nathan, Chris, Dave, Mark) and the ENTIRE Palladium staff, we managed to hit our goal of shipping out approximately 1,000 packages of Robotech® RPG Tactics™ on Monday. So a lot of gamers will be getting packages this week. Enjoy.

Now we move on to shipping Showdowns to backers in the USA. Overseas and Canadian backers will be shipped after we get the (comparatively easy) domestic packages sent on their way.

It has also been nice meeting the many backers who are coming by the office to "pick up" their rewards. In fact, the trick with them is to not spend too much time chatting when we all need to be shipping. Some of these folks have been very fun to talk too.

More updates, Murmurs and Posts to follow.

Sincerely,
Kevin Siembieda
Publisher, Writer and a very tired Game Designer

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