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They seem to have been written out of 40k, I always liked them a story of the highest sinking to the lowest low which is really what 40k is all about. I also don't like their role in the Heresy their portrayed as overgrown children both before and after they turn to chaos.

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...They're still fighting the forces of the Imperium in current 40k lore. There haven't been a lot of books about them lately, but, then again, there haven't been a ton of books about a lot of the individual traitor Legions.

Not sure what you mean by they're being written out of 40k. They're as prevalent as they've ever been.

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I don't really get what you mean either here.

They are still relevant and currently fighting in the 40k lore, maybe at a reduced scale in comparison to the HH storylines etc, but they are still around, in fact in my local, Emperors Children (both 30k and 40k) and Slaanesh based CSM are easily one of the more popular chaos builds used.

Also in terms of the HH stuff they have quite a good selection of stories and books based on them, more than most others have at this point. There will also surely be more based on them in the near future.



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ZSO, SAHAAL wrote:
They seem to have been written out of 40k, I always liked them a story of the highest sinking to the lowest low which is really what 40k is all about. I also don't like their role in the Heresy their portrayed as overgrown children both before and after they turn to chaos.

Fullgrim was the Primarch of the Emperor's Children. They created the noise marines. Noise marines are one of the most common CSM units to date.
They have an entry in this and the previous CSM codex.
   
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It's also quite probable - as a result of Isstvan III, their lack of apothecaries, events of Angel Exterminatus, the Siege of Terra, Skalathrax, and the infighting in the EoT - that the Emperor's Children are particularly low in number in the 40K timeline, IMHO.

Despite this, I'd say they're far from underrepresented or written-out, though, in contrast to the OP.

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Also if i remember correctly, the emperor's Children legion was always low in number due to a geneseed issue they had at one point. Fulgrim mde up for his lack of numbers by pursuing martial perfection.

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 Supertony51 wrote:
Also if i remember correctly, the emperor's Children legion was always low in number due to a geneseed issue they had at one point. Fulgrim mde up for his lack of numbers by pursuing martial perfection.


By Isstvan they were at 110,000 - so seemingly just over the average Legion size. But then, this seems to have been undone by the events I mentioned above...

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I remember something along the lines of "Emperors Children warbands are thankfully rare" on the 40k wikia site. Also no one seems willing to touch them for a series other than the one that seemed like Dawson's Creek on ecstasy with homicidal tendencies.

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ZSO, SAHAAL wrote:
I also don't like their role in the Heresy their portrayed as overgrown children both before and after they turn to chaos.


That's pretty much how every Astartes in the series is protrayed. It's generally why I find books like Legion and Mechanicum better than say, Fulgrim, as the protagonists aren't all man-children.

That said Emperors Children have been regularly referenced since 2e, Noise Marines and the Mark of Slaanesh have been good choices since forever. Hell, back in 2e you could get Noise Marine terminators!

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ZSO, SAHAAL wrote:
I remember something along the lines of "Emperors Children warbands are thankfully rare" on the 40k wikia site. Also no one seems willing to touch them for a series other than the one that seemed like Dawson's Creek on ecstasy with homicidal tendencies.


That's probably because books about cult troops would likely be dull and repetitive, probably part of the reason Rubricae, Plague Marines or Berserkers are seemingly never focussed upon. Emperor's Children seem to have got as much coverage as most others, IMO.

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Yeah, really, I can't recall very many books about the various God-specific Marines at all, in terms of novels set in the 41st Millennium.

Though the Ahriman series might change that, and maybe Graham McNeill will be willing to do some Emperor's Children books once he is done with the Ultramarines series (If he ever is). He seems to like them, and portrays him with the right amounts of homoeroticism.
   
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 Just Dave wrote:
I remember something along the lines of "Emperors Children warbands are thankfully rare" on the 40k wikia site.


For starters, the wikia site is... unreliable at best. They don't exactly have a handle on the page editing so some things are biased. You're better off with Lexicanum for a more objective view.

Emperor's Children *warbands* are rare... because the Legion has largely split since going into the Eye of Terror. Most of the Traitor Legions are the same, with the exception of the Black Legion, Alpha Legion and Night Lords. Even these aren't together as one Legion still, they just tend to stick around each other in large enough numbers that they can muster an army.

However, there are still plenty of Emperor's Children about - just in other warbands, as roving mercenaries or pledged to the service of some random Lord... pretty much wherever their comedy killer guitars take them.

The World Eaters haven't fought together as a Legion since Kharn turned full-on Betrayer on them, and any warbands they muster soon manage to rip themselves apart when bored. But we still see plenty of Berzerkers around...

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 Super Ready wrote:
 Just Dave wrote:
I remember something along the lines of "Emperors Children warbands are thankfully rare" on the 40k wikia site.


For starters, the wikia site is... unreliable at best. They don't exactly have a handle on the page editing so some things are biased. You're better off with Lexicanum for a more objective view.

Emperor's Children *warbands* are rare... because the Legion has largely split since going into the Eye of Terror. Most of the Traitor Legions are the same, with the exception of the Black Legion, Alpha Legion and Night Lords. Even these aren't together as one Legion still, they just tend to stick around each other in large enough numbers that they can muster an army.

However, there are still plenty of Emperor's Children about - just in other warbands, as roving mercenaries or pledged to the service of some random Lord... pretty much wherever their comedy killer guitars take them.

The World Eaters haven't fought together as a Legion since Kharn turned full-on Betrayer on them, and any warbands they muster soon manage to rip themselves apart when bored. But we still see plenty of Berzerkers around...


The Alpha Legion operate as individuals, or in very, very small infiltration units, sowing the seeds of heresy across the Imperium.. They're not exactly together as a chapter, if that's what you're getting at. It's the same for the Night Lords, they kinda ate eachother up after Konrad Kurze's alleged death, and the Black Legion are also in a number of different warbands that are called under the banner of Abaddon whenever he needs them. As for the Emperor's Children, Noise Marines, Lucius The Eternal, Mark of Slaanesh, Banner of Ecstasy.. Nuff said! There's about the same amount of fluff for the Emperor's Children as there are for the World Eaters and Death Guard (maybe not the Thousand Sons because of their recent Heresy books, but hopefully the other cult troops will be looked into at some point in the Heresy series).

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That's a miss-quote btw Super Ready, it wasn't me that said that. Lexicanum's my go-to.

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I think what the OP meant is that you do not see them in large groups represented like Nurgle or Black Legion or even Khorne. I can't remember the source, but iirc the Emperor's Children broke up in much smaller warbands in pursuit of the things that they use for decadence. I mean if everyone around you is trying to find the most perfect of ways to debase themselves, they drifted apart from others not inline with their pleasures or pains.

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