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Are there Chaos aspirants, neophytes, and equivalents of scouts? Are there any noted or noteworthy examples?
   
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I wouldn't have thought so. CSM don't operate in the same rigid way as the codex marines. I would say a scouting role would be left to cultists. If you survived the CSM induction, your there to kill.
That's not to say it can't happen though. I imagine that task would be cults or if it's a vital task to deploy teleport homers, then Chosen would take it on.

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From what I understand new CSM are either vat-born or taken in slave raids. Those that survive the brutal surgeries and augmentation become marines, most just die though. Cultists don't operate within Traitor Legion hierarchy (what's left of it anyway) they are simply tools to be used and discarded.

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There was some mention of this in Treacheries of the Space Marines where several of the narrators describe their neophyte years and the sort of crap they had to go through to earn their way into the CSM.

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Gene-seed may even be stolen from Loyalist Marine Chapters. There's a rather interesting approach taken by the Iron Warriors described in Graham McNeil's Dead Sky, Black Sun.

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Yes and no. I'm not aware of any instances of neophyte-scouts amongst the traitor legions, but that appears to be because that's not how the legions operated before the Heresy (nor how the Space Wolves still operate - their scouts are veterans, their rookies are power armoured).

The Soul Drinker books depict the titular chapter recruiting and training scouts after turning to chaos, and I can't really see a reason why other traitor chapters wouldn't continue the practice.
   
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SerQuintus wrote:

The Soul Drinker books depict the titular chapter recruiting and training scouts after turning to chaos, and I can't really see a reason why other traitor chapters wouldn't continue the practice.


For the record: Soul Drinkers were still loyal and used the normal Chapters modus operandi, so I don't think they count.

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I guess the Chaos Marine chapters does it like the Black Templars. They have neophyte serving besides the veterans. Like the Space Wolves could also be a suggestion but that's just a suggestion.

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As far as I know, all new Chaos Space Marines are either born in weird-ass vats, or made by the corrupted Apothecary guy, I forget his name.. Most Chaos Space Marines are either Heresy/Pre-Heresy, or one of the hundreds of Space Marines that turn to Chaos every year, if not month.. And, as far as I'm concerned, Cultists are meat shields, as described in the Iron Warriors book 'Iron Rain', they just herd them into battle as distractions to draw attention away from more vital parts of the army.

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Different legions have different ways of replenishing their numbers, from stealing loyalist gene stocks and vat growing new recruits as mentioned to simply inducting renegade chapters and warbands from other legions into theirs with brutal initiation rites.

Either way, it is rare for them to recruit and train from childhood the way loyalist chapters do, although not unheard of (there was fluff in the 3.5 codex about abaddon hand picking members of a feral world population to be inducted into the black legion & become astartes)

Once the inductee has formally become a part of the legion/warband however, I suppose they'd just be inserted into the command structure somewhere and from then on prove themselves and rise through the ranks through loyalty/brutality/skill. I doubt most legions in their current state have much in the way of training programmes, & any weak recruits will fall in battle or to the predations of their more experienced brethren. In some ways being a Chaos marine is a meritocracy.

If you read Graham Mcneils Iron Warriors novels, it's possible to rise even to the level of a company commander & still be despised as an 'outsider' by the original legionaries under your command.

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