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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 21:31:39
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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They really referred to Britcons as their lawyers? The letter doesn't, and all I saw was non-specific references to having retained/taking advice from their legal counsel (which they kept misspelling as "council").
But I haven't looked at their Facebook apart from screen caps posted here, so maybe I missed something.
He was constantly talking about his "lawyer" that was developping a strategy and that he was not allowed to tell people his name before the lawyer decided it etc. Later people on his Facebook page asked about his "legal firm" and his "legal representatives" and he did not correct it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 21:33:48
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yup. According to Resin Forge they were approached by a lawyer who said he would help them, and that this lawyer was preparing things for them.
A "lawyer" who they wouldn't name and who told them not to name the owners of the company...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 21:33:53
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Resin Forge's Facebook page refers to their lawyers' web page being taken down by a Lexicanum complaint about their using a boilerplate C&D letter to DakkaDakka.
Only Britcons sent a C&D letter, so that is who Resin Forge are saying are their lawyers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 21:40:17
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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[DCM]
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Aha, there we go. That does appear to be another factual contradiction, as none of the Britcons stuff said they were a law firm. So if Resin Forge referred to them as such, that's an inconsistency.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 21:41:00
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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Kroothawk wrote:If someone is planning a scam with Forge World products, maybe Forge World is interested and should be told in advance of the HH weekend.
FW are aware of this thread and have been since the last one when we were still debating the RF / Daniel link ,
On an unrelated note Just in case anyone is visiting the UK for the HH weekend (looks at any random person who works at a stall at a show) all foreign visitors should carry their passport at all times in the UK in case of needing to prove identity especially if buying goods to take back to the states (those peskey customs officers do like their paperwork ) it just helps if the nice folks at FW can help fill out that customs declaration there and then for you!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 21:56:29
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I never had to present my passport when making any purchases in UK.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 22:11:32
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Ferocious Blood Claw
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no you don't but if you are planing on going through customs with a suitcase full of products they can make you stand in line for ages filling out forms (we brits love paperwork ) its easier if you get it filled at the source since they can fill out the mumbo jumbo of costs/ value VAT paid (you are eligible to a rebate on tax returns at home due to paying a sales tax you do not have to pay )
this just seemed a good place to mention this as i have had to deal with multiple customers who have had to fill in this mindless nonending stream of paperwork for products they want to take home to their country for resale !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 22:18:28
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Okay that makes good sense. : )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 22:45:43
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Presumably the British customs / immigration control folks would have an issue with people entering into the country with the aim of furthering a fraudulent scheme. Immigration control folks really aren't fond of fraudsters.
Even if not traveling to the UK for the purpose of furthering a scheme, there might be issues with traveling to the UK to conduct business (obtain product) as a general visitor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 22:58:30
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I think it's hilarious people are proposing the trip to UK for the HH weekender is some type of scheme. I would love to go but the cost of airfare is much too dear for me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 23:08:14
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Dozer Blades wrote:I think it's hilarious people are proposing the trip to UK for the HH weekender is some type of scheme. I would love to go but the cost of airfare is much too dear for me.
*shrug*
According to Lex he requires models he is planning to obtain from the HH weekender in order to complete pre-orders:
Inquisitor S. wrote:
You forget one (in our opinion) important point: quite some of the stuff he "sold" (more like pre-sold) in the last weeks was stuff he (or his co-owners according to him) is / are supposed to bring to the States from the Horus Heresy Weekender which takes place NEXT weekend. Markedly FULGRIM miniatures and such.
That is hardly going to hold up to the most trusting and loyal supporters of Resin Forge if the shop folds and vanishes before that.
If that's true, and the same thing happens this time that other posters in this thread said happened last time (send him money, don't get product in return), then what else would you call it?
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Hypothetically, if I was running a pre-order ponzi-scheme, trying to sucker in as big a pool of marks as possible, I would want some happy customers up front, and would have to get some product to send to them. Of course, a perfectly legitimate business would also want product for pre-orders as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 23:33:38
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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How is purchasing FW models at the HH Weekender some evil scheme? I'm thinking he is smart to save the money if he bought airfare well ahead of time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 23:40:57
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Dozer Blades wrote:How is purchasing FW models at the HH Weekender some evil scheme? I'm thinking he is smart to save the money if he bought airfare well ahead of time.
It's more that he's sold pre orders on the assumption that he'll actually go and buy them there. There's plenty of excuses for late orders with that method.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 23:43:25
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well, that's tricky to answer.
Daniel created Matt Bonder, and created the poor dying wife.
Then he killed her off for pity points. So, in RL, no, no wife related
to Mandelbaum died. But in the vastness of his imagination he killed a created character.
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/28 09:51:11
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
Cincinnati
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alarmingrick wrote:
Well, that's tricky to answer.
Daniel created Matt Bonder, and created the poor dying wife.
Then he killed her off for pity points. So, in RL, no, no wife related
to Mandelbaum died. But in the vastness of his imagination he killed a created character.
I thought the deceased woman's name he used was his mother?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 23:52:22
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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baritowned wrote: alarmingrick wrote:
Well, that's tricky to answer.
Daniel created Matt Bonder, and created the poor dying wife.
Then he killed her off for pity points. So, in RL, no, no wife related
to Mandelbaum died. But in the vastness of his imagination he killed a created character.
I thought the deceased woman's name he used was his mother?
I'm sure Freud would have something to say about that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 23:54:33
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Right, Solet me understand this... My gf lives in Amarillo so I've looked at flying to Dallas often.. and what I dont get is, it's £600 or so return. Thats at least £1200 (2 people) profit they have to make to the costs and looking at the price of fw stuff etc? personally I don't think they will be able to get that much stuff in their bags.
Something doesn't seem to add up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 23:57:13
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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baritowned wrote: alarmingrick wrote:
Well, that's tricky to answer.
Daniel created Matt Bonder, and created the poor dying wife.
Then he killed her off for pity points. So, in RL, no, no wife related
to Mandelbaum died. But in the vastness of his imagination he killed a created character.
I thought the deceased woman's name he used was his mother?
That was an alias used, I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 23:57:54
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Fixture of Dakka
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baritowned wrote: alarmingrick wrote:
Well, that's tricky to answer.
Daniel created Matt Bonder, and created the poor dying wife.
Then he killed her off for pity points. So, in RL, no, no wife related
to Mandelbaum died. But in the vastness of his imagination he killed a created character.
I thought the deceased woman's name he used was his mother?
The time I mentioned was during his Redstarone (RSO) days.
You're thinking of the Three Stage Studio ( TSS) era.
It's okay. It's hard to follow.
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/11 23:59:06
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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alarmingrick wrote:
Well, that's tricky to answer.
Daniel created Matt Bonder, and created the poor dying wife.
Then he killed her off for pity points. So, in RL, no, no wife related
to Mandelbaum died. But in the vastness of his imagination he killed a created character.
It is merely speculation on your part. If it comes to pass then yes but only time will tell.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 00:00:08
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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According to Lex he requires models he is planning to obtain from the HH weekender in order to complete pre-orders
I don't want to leave that as that, later people will say we are nuts and made it up (especially because Mr Mandelbaum LOVES to delete things when they become uncomfortable):
http://i.imgur.com/RT9xhvP.jpg (Screenshot of going to HH Weekender + saying people who want Fulgrim should hurry up)
http://i.imgur.com/XlOCy01.jpg (part 2)
Also here one of the advertising texts where he says he'll bring product:
http://i.imgur.com/psdy1TB.jpg
And more advertising for it:
http://i.imgur.com/FfhZhhw.jpg
And here some stuff where he suddenly reverses on the No VAT things:
http://i.imgur.com/AqmBJeJ.jpg
I also had a chat with a nice bloke who ordered a book from them, will see if I can get in touch with him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 00:01:21
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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derek wrote:baritowned wrote: alarmingrick wrote:
Well, that's tricky to answer.
Daniel created Matt Bonder, and created the poor dying wife.
Then he killed her off for pity points. So, in RL, no, no wife related
to Mandelbaum died. But in the vastness of his imagination he killed a created character.
I thought the deceased woman's name he used was his mother?
That was an alias used, I think.
The dead woman was his real mother, so we can kindly stop talking about her please.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 00:05:56
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I was browsing his Facebook page this afternoon. Fulgrim is plastered all over the place. I hope others will investigate for themselves rather just take what is said here for granted. As far as deletion goes many things here have been deleted... That's partly why there is moderation, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 00:07:11
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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Dozer Blades wrote: alarmingrick wrote:
Well, that's tricky to answer.
Daniel created Matt Bonder, and created the poor dying wife.
Then he killed her off for pity points. So, in RL, no, no wife related
to Mandelbaum died. But in the vastness of his imagination he killed a created character.
It is merely speculation on your part. If it comes to pass then yes but only time will tell.
http://www.resthavenfuneral.com/obituaries/obituaries-detail.cfm?method=2&id=1738
Second to last post suggests that Daniel does have a wife named Stephanie. Given his age it is plausible that they were married in 2009 during the RSO events, but Stephanie was clearly alive and well at the time of Susans death last year.
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 00:08:12
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
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I was browsing his Facebook page this afternoon. Fulgrim is plastered all over the place. I hope others will investigate for themselves rather just take what is said here for granted. As far as deletion goes many things here have been deleted... That's partly why there is moderation, right?
Well, the stuff he had deleted on his FB page was all uncomfortable questions and statements that were debunked by evidence so they had to disappear
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 00:12:37
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Lake Forest, California, South Orange County
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His last update shows 5 comments, 4 of which were deleted. Sadly before I was able to catch them. I've also never read the word "trollish" so many times before, nor do most companies use them in their communications.
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"Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! ... It’s become the promotions department of a toy company." -- Rick Priestly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 00:14:29
Subject: Re:Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Regular Dakkanaut
All over the Galaxy ;D
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TalonZahn wrote:You would then have to travel to Texas to be in court to testify, present documentation, and hope that the other party hasn't done something to cause you to have to travel to Texas a second time; file a last second extension, perhaps?
The gaming community is a solid one and the people in it watch each other's back's very well.
RF kind of reminds of the guys that tried to start up that deep discount pre-order thing several months/couple of years ago.
MM and Alph would know who they were..... Gobbo Games or something?
I haven't read everything - but I assume you are talking about me. Justin Wu.
I am in Seattle, WA. My business(es) are seperate and not in any way affiliated or related at all to any past, or present ventures. (MWG, RSO, TSS, RF etc.)
I have known Matt-Daniel previously as he has been on my websites in the past as well as bartertown.
Dakka staff know who I am. MM-Bartertown knows who I am.
I do not have any outstanding owed debts/balances to anyone to my knowledge. I have not done much 'commercial' business in wargaming in a while.
I do have intentions of doing so again in the future, but more focused on my other non-wargaming ventures in RL.
If anything owed by me then feel free to contact me at any time. (Not Daniel's Transactions)
Galaxy Gobbo had closed down because the groupon-deep discount business model is not sustainable business model with very low profit margins.
We fulfilled all our orders to best of our supply capabilities, and refunded all who did not.
I have done several hundreds if not thousands of successful trades/sales transactions across Roguemarket, Bartertown, Dakka, & Ebay.
But, I am not perfect and I have failed on delivery on transactions in the past - but worked to the best of my ability to resolve on those transactions.
I casually still sell wargaming goods on the side (personal collection) on ebay and some few trades here and there.
I have assisted Dakka before on a past nasty scammer.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/242943.page
I also assisted AlarmingRick - with his deal with trade deal agreement with Matt-Daniel who owed him a Baneblade.
I was able to assist AlarmingRick to retrieve his owed Baneblade by supplying a Baneblade from my own personal inventory.
Hope this is clarification - to clear the air.
OP Topic isn't about me - but if any other questions let me know.
J
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 00:43:57
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Dozer Blades wrote: alarmingrick wrote: Well, that's tricky to answer. Daniel created Matt Bonder, and created the poor dying wife. Then he killed her off for pity points. So, in RL, no, no wife related to Mandelbaum died. But in the vastness of his imagination he killed a created character. It is merely speculation on your part. If it comes to pass then yes but only time will tell. d-usa wrote: derek wrote:baritowned wrote: alarmingrick wrote: Well, that's tricky to answer. Daniel created Matt Bonder, and created the poor dying wife. Then he killed her off for pity points. So, in RL, no, no wife related to Mandelbaum died. But in the vastness of his imagination he killed a created character. I thought the deceased woman's name he used was his mother? That was an alias used, I think. The dead woman was his real mother, so we can kindly stop talking about her please. Aerethan wrote: Dozer Blades wrote: alarmingrick wrote: Well, that's tricky to answer. Daniel created Matt Bonder, and created the poor dying wife. Then he killed her off for pity points. So, in RL, no, no wife related to Mandelbaum died. But in the vastness of his imagination he killed a created character. It is merely speculation on your part. If it comes to pass then yes but only time will tell. http://www.resthavenfuneral.com/obituaries/obituaries-detail.cfm?method=2&id=1738 Second to last post suggests that Daniel does have a wife named Stephanie. Given his age it is plausible that they were married in 2009 during the RSO events, but Stephanie was clearly alive and well at the time of Susans death last year. I'm pretty sure Alph can vouch for me on this, but you guys are confusing fact with fantasy. Back in his RSO days, he invented "Sara" a wife with terminal cancer, along with the character Matt Bonder. Mrs. Beasly was Daniels real life mother who passed after he'd been selling on Feebay as her. And I agree with d-usa, we should show her respect. You folks are confusing people that lived with people he created. Which is something I'm sure Daniel would count on. EDIT: And yes, Justin Wu gave me a Shadowsword kit as resolution for the fiasco I went through with Daniel. Daniel keep telling me it was paid for, he was waiting on Justin to ship it. Justin finally said screw it and sent it to me out of the kindness of his heart. As far as I know he's never been paid back by Daniel to this day.
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 01:02:58
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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His mother is the only person I know off, I was not involved with him during his RSO days. I know he used her identity once, but at this point we know that she was also a real person that has died. Other than watching for somebody selling by that name in the future there is no reason to speak any ill of her and we should respect the fact that she has died.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/12 01:09:37
Subject: Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum
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Fixture of Dakka
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d-usa wrote:His mother is the only person I know off, I was not involved with him during his RSO days. I know he used her identity once, but at this point we know that she was also a real person that has died. Other than watching for somebody selling by that name in the future there is no reason to speak any ill of her and we should respect the fact that she has died. I thought you got on the Mandelbaum express at the TSS stop?!  If you knew him in the RSO days then you surely remember all the trips between Texas and Arkansas? It was his favorite excuse at that time for not shipping. That's when I went to his apartment and met the father, Michael. Ahhh, the bad old days..... Edit: My bad d, I thought I'd read you knew him then. Sorry my friend!
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"But i'm more than just a little curious, how you're planning to go about making your amends, to the dead?" -The Noose-APC
"Little angel go away
Come again some other day
The devil has my ear today
I'll never hear a word you say" Weak and Powerless - APC
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