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czakk wrote:
It looks like britcons.com had some trouble getting their website working about a year ago:

http://support.godaddy.com/members/alphamike/

Maybe not a crack team of mercenaries.


Also no record of a lawyer named Michael Duerkop that I could find. Practicing law without a license is a no no.

So...wait...we have a guy who has been proven to be a shady businessman supposedly having a C&D sent by a person (persons) who may not be a lawyer, from a company that may not actually exist in the stated form?

Wow...just wow.

That pretty much sums it up.

I think yak needs to hire some ninja merc's to defend the site. Looks like we are going down.

 Mad4Minis wrote:

czakk wrote:
It looks like britcons.com had some trouble getting their website working about a year ago:

http://support.godaddy.com/members/alphamike/

Maybe not a crack team of mercenaries.


Also no record of a lawyer named Michael Duerkop that I could find. Practicing law without a license is a no no.

So...wait...we have a guy who has been proven to be a shady businessman supposedly having a C&D sent by a person (persons) who may not be a lawyer, from a company that may not actually exist in the stated form?

Wow...just wow.

It gets better. If you read MarkyMark's posts he's been in contact with the M. Duerkop that originally owned the website and lived at the address listed in the registration / has the telephone number listed as well. Apparently he let the website lapse a year ago and had no idea anyone had brought it back or that they were using his name.

So would that make this international identity theft, possibly bringing INTERPOL into things?

Well.... Thats an unfortunate turn of events....

 Asherian Command wrote:
Well.... Thats an unfortunate turn of events....

You say unfortunate, I say hilarious.

Really though, if this whole C&D affair does turn out to be "questionably legal", Mandelbungler will have reached an entirely new plane of the bizarre.

I take back everything I said about not leaving the other thread up. Mr. Mandelbaum's recent actions brought to light in this thread have caused way more damage than that thread ever could have. Funny, really. By sending a fake C&D, he got more negative attention from more outlets than he ever would have from a thread on Dakka.

It's worth noting that outside of some armchair investigating, it's not proven it's a fake C&D. So, again, keeping speculation to a minimum is probably for the best.

 -Loki- wrote:
It's worth noting that outside of some armchair investigating, it's not proven it's a fake C&D. So, again, keeping speculation to a minimum is probably for the best.

Or at least wait til the appropriate PR person is in. I'm sure they can handle such questions.
I believe they have a number some where.......

Oh I'm just playing devils advocate there. yakface asked for speculation to be kept down in this thread.

 -Loki- wrote:
Oh I'm just playing devils advocate there. yakface asked for speculation to be kept down in this thread.

Just poking fun. And he's correct to do so.

I take back everything I said about not leaving the other thread up. Mr. Mandelbaum's recent actions brought to light in this thread have caused way more damage than that thread ever could have. Funny, really. By sending a fake C&D, he got more negative attention from more outlets than he ever would have from a thread on Dakka.

You mean in the same way as if he had not decided to run to facebook and have all links with a (in the beginning) quite small "warning in passing" referring to the Dakka thread deleted? For us that was the equivalent of burning down a whole office block in order to cover up that somebody had taken a pepsi can from the common fridge in the office.
The resulting smoke (in this case stink for meddling with other people's pages) was what brought down A LOT of the gak on his head. Pretty much the same as calling Aetheran's workplace, thus involving him. Don't piss people off for nothing, they might decide to come back for you I guess

But it wasn't for nothing! He gave negative (correct me if I'm wrong) COMMENTARY on their page, sullying their "perfect reputation" they seem to advertise in regards to customer satisfaction. Clearly that constitutes phone harassment.

Well, just out of curiosity, I posted a question on facebook yesterday, and this morning they got back to me. Just a quickie about the availability of the Fulgrim model, to get a concrete answer from themselves...


sorry for no embedded pic, currently in class, and uploading is tricky.

On the face of it that sounds reasonable, though I don't understand how Resin Forge will be able to make a profit on the orders.

Okay update time:

I have been provided with enough evidence to say with certainty that there is no such company as britcons.com (their website has since been taken down for those not following the proceedings of this thread day-to-day).

The Cease & Desist email was sent by someone pretending to be Michael Duerkop, the CEO of this fictitious company.

The real Michael Duerkop is just a photographer in Germany who owns the (long dormant) britcons.com domain. He has recently had several of his online accounts compromised (such as paypal, Facebook, go daddy, etc) and whomever compromised these accounts then used them to create the Britcons.com website that used to be there and send the Cease & Desist email from the info@Britcons.com email account (that they created).

Now, and this is very important, there is no evidence proving who was responsible for compromising his accounts and creating this charade. It is entirely possible that someone created this fake website, etc, and then went and misrepresented themselves to Resin Forge as being able to provide legal counsel. So please refrain from making any statements as though you *know* who was responsible, even if circumstantially it may seem obvious to you.

I will not be reinstating the previous thread, because as I've said a few times now, I'm much more comfortable with the way the information is presented in this current thread as opposed to the previous one.

I also will not be looking to pursue any legal actions for this whole matter because frankly I have no interest in wasting any more of my time on this ridiculousness. The entire point of the original thread (and this one) continues to be just to identify that Daniel Mandelbaum is an owner of Resin Forge, which has been amply accomplished by this point.

 yakface wrote:
Now, and this is very important, there is no evidence proving who was responsible for compromising his accounts and creating this charade. It is entirely possible that someone created this fake website, etc, and then went and misrepresented themselves to Resin Forge as being able to provide legal counsel.

That, honestly, would be hilarious.

Could we, in light of this, have MajorTom11's links to the previous Redstarone, Matthew Bonder and other aliases and their thread links placed in your original post for people to be able to view?

RF are now trying to a,me out they ONLY wanted to take orders for those Fulgrim's they knew they could get at 1 per person....

Anyone got a grab of the (now deleted) posts where he contradicted this?

RF are now trying to a,me out they ONLY wanted to take orders for those Fulgrim's they knew they could get at 1 per person....

Anyone got a grab of the (now deleted) posts where he contradicted this?

So he said that two co-owners would attend, so you are looking for the statement that more than two would be available, correct?

Yeah.

I'm more than certain he made a comment about 'full suitcases' - in that comment he mentioned more than 3 Fulgrim's (and no mention of buying unwanted purchases off other gamers)....

He's spammed the FW FB page claiming that this is what he always claimed.... And then snipped the comments to his own page.

Didn't he say the pre-order slots he had was at about 6?

Didn't he say the pre-order slots he had was at about 6?

That's what he wrote. But of course it's not there anymore (as so many, many, many other posts.

So, as I'm essentially new to the hobby (Having last participated in the 80s), the name is new to me. I've been following this with interest, as it's always good to know which companies/individuals to avoid, but I am amazed by the behaviour of this guy. How old is he, and is English not his first language?

He is 28 and English is regrettably his first language, though his grasp of it is quite basic.

 Squidbot wrote:
So, as I'm essentially new to the hobby (Having last participated in the 80s), the name is new to me. I've been following this with interest, as it's always good to know which companies/individuals to avoid, but I am amazed by the behaviour of this guy. How old is he, and is English not his first language?

He's older than I am (so at least 25), and English is (to our knowledge) his first language, but that's neither here nor there. I believe it's more or less not taking the time to edit and correct grammatical mistakes. Or it could be something else along the lines of dyslexia. BUT like I said, that's neither here nor there.

What is here and there is the fact that Mr. Mandelbaum is at least 1/3rd owner of Resin Forge (possible up to one half or more). And Resin Forge has been caught with their proverbial pants down about coming clean as a company about ownership, staff, etc...


Alph, have you heard back from their customer service email?

 Alfndrate wrote:


Alph, have you heard back from their customer service email?

Ha-ha...oh, you're serious. Although maybe a reply isn't too much to expect, but a helpful answer would be.

Also Inq S, have you found any past posts saying a really high number of preorders? I saw posts promising the pre orders being filled, but none on volume.

Also, does anyone know if this post on the FW page;
<name redacted> Offered to help to pick up limited models for them at a previous event (before we knew what they where going to be). They saw what they where and then never responded to msg when they clearly decided they didn't actually want them.Like · Reply · 42 minutes ago

Is refering to Resin Forge? It seems like they are, and if so they aren't exactly clean as a stand alone company already (disregarding Mandlebaum's previous capers)

Edit: that comment has already been taken down...by FW for being ot or on RF's request?

It doesn't really matter how many RF have promised to be able to supply, the fact of the matter is that no one can guarantee to go to the event and leave with a Fulgrim model, it's a pre-release item and for what we know they could have only 10 or 15 in stock as FW have not said that it would be available in large quantities at the event, nor that any participants are guaranteed one (if they wish to get one) and it is not possible to reserve any of the pre-release items.

So even if you had 20 people going there would be no guarantee at all that you would be able to get hold on even 1 of these models as you have no idea about how many people attend, how many will be there super early to get a Fulgrim model or other pre-release item, how muck stock will be available of each item and so on.

It is a highly unprofessional business approach to sell something in advance on these terms of actually getting a hold of said product, a product that they don't even know the price of yet making it even harder for themselves to guarantee a profit on such a business venture.

This is enough to tell my common sense to not buy that particular service off of them at least, and that is without taking any of the other events recently in account.

Also Inq S, have you found any past posts saying a really high number of preorders? I saw posts promising the pre orders being filled, but none on volume.

Finding posts is like trying to save books from an already burning library. He was and is removing everything that could even be slightly incriminating However I can't say I saw don't know how high numbers. I have seen "6".

The guy(s) with nothing to hide sure are acting like they are hiding many things and refusing to use quotable ways of communication.