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In his defence, I get a lot of typos when I use my phone to post on Dakka too, and maybe Glasses hasn't got a computer that allows access to Dakka, for whatever reason.

So far this thread has been very informative, especially to someone like me who had no idea about this Daniel character before this.

But were getting off topic and I would like this thread to stay open as a warning to others so can we stop spamming it up please?

 Rotgut wrote:
So far this thread has been very informative, especially to someone like me who had no idea about this Daniel character before this.

But were getting off topic and I would like this thread to stay open as a warning to others so can we stop spamming it up please?

Good idea. Especially for a bunch of people who should very definitely know better. Don't push it on this one guys. I just had to edit out about 20 spam posts, next time I will just as soon issue warnings than waste more time doing that. I hope that is clear enough. This thread isn't for any of you to show how witty you are.

Hey I made a new word. But weiner dogs and Dallas aside I am on my phone as someone who tracked my ISP found in the other thread. This topic should have been locked after Yakface had his say. A simple or complex warning would have served.


Does anyone here recognize that you should never trust ANYBODY on the internet and before I beleive any "statement" I want proof from a 3rd party.

glasses wrote:
Hey I made a new word. But weiner dogs and Dallas aside I am on my phone as someone who tracked my ISP found in the other thread. This topic should have been locked after Yakface had his say. A simple or complex warning would have served.


Does anyone here recognize that you should never trust ANYBODY on the internet and before I beleive any "statement" I want proof from a 3rd party.

So a third party would be a police report right? Is there any sort of other evidence that you would accept?

glasses wrote:
Hey I made a new word. But weiner dogs and Dallas aside I am on my phone as someone who tracked my ISP found in the other thread.

You said you were on your phone in the other thread. Either way, both Android and iOS' browsers have spell checking built in and you can still take a look over your post before hitting submit.

I want proof from a third party that you Mr Glasses are not Mr Mandelbaum (this is not offtopic and not threatening)

I'm amazed that Dakka traces your IP...

 d-usa wrote:
I'm amazed that Dakka traces your IP...

Could have gotten confused. Not hard to tell he's from the US with the flag to his name, and if he's on the phone could be he didn't see it?

Devils advocate and all that

 d-usa wrote:
I'm amazed that Dakka traces your IP...

Why would you be? There's no tracing involved. Simple enough to check the logs for which IP made any given request.

Well, just haven't seen Yakface or Lego (the only two people who realistically have access to that information) come in either thread and say "Hey, we traced his IP..."

glasses wrote:
Hey I made a new word. But weiner dogs and Dallas aside I am on my phone as someone who tracked my ISP found in the other thread. This topic should have been locked after Yakface had his say. A simple or complex warning would have served.


Does anyone here recognize that you should never trust ANYBODY on the internet and before I beleive any "statement" I want proof from a 3rd party.

i got all my proof from a 3rd party....the dakka community.....believing it or not is entirely up to you but for me, there are more then enough warning flags going off around resin forge to get me to avoid buying anything from them. We are all adults here, nothing you can say will change the way I view the warning flags just like nothing I can say will change the way you view them. The purpose of this thread (and all the others on several different sites) is to put forward information and allow people to make up there own minds....for my part my mind is made up. I dont need to make any "slander" or "threats" as I've decided to voice my opinion in a much more powerful way...keeping my wallet closed

Seem RF have now employed a "PR professional" to answer all of the questions for potential customers, but only over the phone, and has not released any type of PR statement for damage control adressing allegations or associations. I'm half tempted to call the number and see who picks up.

Seem RF have now employed a "PR professional" to answer all of the questions for potential customers, but only over the phone, and has not released any type of PR statement for damage control adressing allegations or associations. I'm half tempted to call the number and see who picks up.

Better look for a public phone then... Anyway, all that is not written will - at least by me - not be taken into any consideration for anything

His spelling and grammar completely changed. He must have handed the phone to the "PR Guy".

glasses wrote:
This topic should have been locked after Yakface had his say. A simple or complex warning would have served.

But if we did that we would have never been able to find out and share that the C&D letter was send from a fake lawfirm.

And we wouldn't have been able to share our personal factual experiences with Daniel Mandelbaum.

Why would anybody try to prevent that...

@Glasses

What in particular are you looking for "proof" of?
That Daniel Mandelbaum is associated as a part owner of Resin Forge? That has been conclusively proven through the C&D and Aerathan's work fiasco, with accompanying police report.
That RF empoyed an allegedly made up company to send the C&D to Yakface? That has been conclusively proven seeing as the website has been shut down, the bitcon company seems to not exist today in any capacity, and the name of the CEO on the C&D letter has been proven to be a german photographer who is the victim of identity fraud?
That Daniel Mandelbaum has been involved in dealings that were less than honest in the past? Alpharius' posts shed some light on past dealings, as well as numerous other thread links that have popped up throughout this forum.

What exactly are you looking for proof of outside of these points?

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

Seem RF have now employed a "PR professional" to answer all of the questions for potential customers, but only over the phone, and has not released any type of PR statement for damage control adressing allegations or associations. I'm half tempted to call the number and see who picks up.

Better look for a public phone then... Anyway, all that is not written will - at least by me - not be taken into any consideration for anything

Or get a cheap prepaid cell.

The name in my underware is not Daniel or mendlbaum sp? Mr. Inquisitor if that is ur real name? Real or not the C&D should be a warning and taken as such.

glasses wrote:
Hey I made a new word. But weiner dogs and Dallas aside I am on my phone as someone who tracked my ISP found in the other thread. This topic should have been locked after Yakface had his say. A simple or complex warning would have served.


Does anyone here recognize that you should never trust ANYBODY on the internet and before I beleive any "statement" I want proof from a 3rd party.

Yes, this topic should have been closed immediately, that way it would end discussion and we likely wouldn't have all found out about the questionable authenticity of the legal firm backing this C&D. Or the other things that have come out.

Closing the topic so it slides down the forum and into obscurity is exactly what ResinForge want, you seem remarkably keen for them to not have to answer anything and be allowed to continue unquestioned.

glasses wrote:
The name in my underwear is not Daniel or Mandelbaum sp? Mr. Inquisitor if that is ur real name? Real or not the C&D should be a warning and taken as such.

And the person that the C&D was addressed to, one Mr. Jon Regul (aka Yakface), responded in kind with the request of the C&D that asked the previous thread be taken down. The rest of this thread has been the Dakka community at large asking the questions about what we as a concerned community of gamers are asking.

And good sir, you still haven't answered my question. What do you consider valid 3rd party proof? Just a police report, or what?

glasses wrote:
Does anyone here recognize that you should never trust ANYBODY on the internet and before I beleive any "statement" I want proof from a 3rd party.

You're telling us never to trust anybody on the internet, and then you make a demand for proof?

Did that not seem at all hypocritical when you wrote it?

The name in my underware is not Daniel or mendlbaum sp? Mr. Inquisitor if that is ur real name?

I just checked and both My t-shirt and my underwear do bear the inscription "Inquisitor S.", so that MUST be my real name. I just wonder from where you are Mr glasses, where inscriptions on clothing are a valid form of ID.

Real or not the C&D should be a warning and taken as such.

You see, there we have a problem. Since the C&D was obviously written by a non-existing person or to be more precise by a person who stole another person's identity this makes it completely invalid as it is as if the C&D has not been written at all. We can just call it badly written fiction and title it: "50 Rages of Mandelbaum" or "The Resin Forge Zone". Obeying a piece of fiction is like we would pay money to a James Bond villain who threatens to destroy the UN building with his death laser

P.S.: it's again the personality with the spelling trouble at the keyboard as I see

Alright guys, let's stop engaging with Glasses please as he really doesn't have anything new to say.

Glasses we appreciate your opinion but the majority of us drastically disagree with you on what constitutes relevant evidence and also service to the community. I think it has been established that we will have to agree to disagree with you on those points.

If you have new information or new commentary to make then you are welcome to continue posting, but you have stated this is shameful bs 4 or 5 times now with little else to add, and we have all heard and acknowledged you. I would hate to assume your only goal here was to incite aggression.

glasses wrote:
The name in my underware is not Daniel or mendlbaum sp? Mr. Inquisitor if that is ur real name? Real or not the C&D should be a warning and taken as such.

The C&D was taken seriously, despite the dubious circumstances surrounding it. Yakface complied fully with the request, and the thread has mainly stayed on topic. Is it a violation of the C&D to say "Daniel Mandelbaum is a part owner of Resin Forge" as his name is attached to the C&D letter? Is it a violation of the C&D to say "Daniel Mandelbaum has been a part of x,y,z companies in the past, and these are anecdotal examples of those business dealings? Dakka is not presenting anything as fact OTHER than the fact the Daniel Mandelbaum is in fact associated with this company, that his past companies have had less than stellar reviews, and everyone here is free to do/not do business with Resin Forge at their own discretion.

Outright claims of criminal activity are in no way endorsed by dakka, and are being strictly moderated as such. This thread has merely served as a conduit to provide information on dubious circumstances surrounding RF and its business model, nothing more nothing less. I fail to see how this is implicitly or explicity violating the wording of the C&D, or constitutes any form of legal action on RF's part?

EDIT: Sorry MajorTom, was writing this up and didn't see your post, I can remove if you want?

Alright guys, let's stop engaging with Glasses please as he really doesn't have anything new to say.

I agree with you but nevertheless I think I just raised a valid point. Letters written by non existing persons don't have any meaning at all or am I missing something? I think this is actually quite important to know. In all seriousness.

Fair enough on that one -

glasses wrote:
The name in my underware is not Daniel or mendlbaum sp? Mr. Inquisitor if that is ur real name? Real or not the C&D should be a warning and taken as such.

Fake legal threats should be ignored for the farce that they are. Yakface complied with the letter, and since that time we have proven without a doubt that the C&D was not sent by any real or legal entity.

I don't know about you, but I ignore all warnings from fictional people, on account of them not being real.

As for proof that Mandelbaum is related to RF, I honestly don't know how much more proof I can give. I showed call logs, police reports, I can post email chains... And I have screenshots out the wazoo.

You keep asking for "proof" even after it's been provided.

Okay, glasses... Legit question here. I'm hoping you respond.

I am known to have a history with Daniel Mandelbaum as Mathew Bonder. As someone with said history, I have serious questions:

What proof do you want, and what do you want proven?
Do you want proof that he is accused of scamming people? Is there anything outside of (a) his own admission or (b) the results of a legal proceeding that will convince you of such?
(Note to Mods... I am not making the accusation of him being a scammer. I'm asking what would convince glasses that he is.)

What do you (or WOULD you) make of an established history of people (a) making accusations and (b) showing proof of those accusations? I mean to say, if I could post links to one or more complaints that Daniel, either as Daniel or the now confirmed alias of Matthew Bonder accepting goods or money in exchange for products and/or services that he never provided, would you accept them as true, or would you need the complainants to have gone through a court of law and had Dan/Matthew found guilty?

If you would accept them as true without them having gone through a court of law, would that convince you that the man is someone to be avoided at all costs?

@ everyone -
I find it interesting that one of his partners is Kim Hernandez and his wife (per the link to his mother's Obit) is Stephanie Hernandez. I know the last name is relatively common, but he IS known to have assumed the identity of others in the past (and, NO, I'm not referring to the bitscon guy).

Eric

glasses wrote:
Hey I made a new word. But weiner dogs and Dallas aside I am on my phone as someone who tracked my ISP found in the other thread. This topic should have been locked after Yakface had his say. A simple or complex warning would have served.


Does anyone here recognize that you should never trust ANYBODY on the internet and before I beleive any "statement" I want proof from a 3rd party.

Are you saying: we should 1) have taken Resin Forge at its word that it sent a C&D letter; 2) sending a C&D from a nonexistent law firm is prima facae evidence of unclean hands in any future legal proceeding, likely resulting in severe monetary sanctions to the individual doing so, and potentially amounting to felony level criminal activity, especially if it consitutes minimum requirements under the RICO Act and therefore the Fedreal Government could use anti organized crime statutes to go after those parties anywhere in the US and its territories; or; 3) you are on your phone?

I'm confused, why does it matter if you are posting on your phone? How is that pertinent to the topic of what is effectively a fraudulent C&D letter?