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Art Steventon wrote:
D-USA of which there are LOADS,

Except there aren't. Nope, not one.

maybe they have lots of pics but cant figure out how to watermark them?

So here's the one part I find interesting in all of this. One person says something negative about them and they already know who it is and are emailing them. Now if someone were to do that to my business I wouldn't have a clue until talking to them and I would most certainly not ever call them unless they requested me to as it is a major violation of federal trade and privacy agreements. That alone could get me sued for all my company's worth. In the end this whole incident is disappointing for me as I was excited about a few bits dealer in the U.S.

senatorcharlie wrote:

Just to be clear AFTER they were turned over to PAYPAL, the were forced to refund my money. However, RESIN FORGE continued to claim they had sent free items and then called me ungrateful. THESE SUPPOSED FREE ITEMS NEVER CAME! Understand I was told thru emails and texts that my items were right there infront of them but they somehow could not get to the post office. THIS LASTED FOR ALMOST 45 DAYS! I contacted PAYPAL about my concerns and they told me to begin the process and file a claim against them.

An inability to get to the post office is a common claim from Daniel Mandelbaum's various aliases particularly when he called himself RedStarOne. Backing this up with harassment and abuse through email and phone and a legal threat for 'laible'. Pretty standard for him, now it's unravelling he's getting nasty.

Let the thieving begin. I recommend people open their disputes now, so that if their product doesn't show up they are already on the right track. Don't let Mandelbondsley run out the clock on your 45 day window.

Hey,

Noticed RF still has no photos of their items they got up yet. Lots of empty bags though! I can take photos like that to, I think I have a 100+ Forgeworld bags all empty. Maybe I should use my bags to start an online web store just like RF ^.^

As usual the Lex would like to know a little bit more about Senator Charlie: no offense. Can somebody who did not just create an account and therefore has more credibility confirm this is not a puppet account or sth?

Please everyone remember that Resin Forge and Daniel Mandelbaum have not been convicted of fraud so it is wrong to call them fraudsters or scammers.

Thank you.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Please everyone remember that Resin Forge and Daniel Mandelbaum have not been convicted of fraud so it is wrong to call them fraudsters or scammers.

Thank you.

They have however been convicted of asshattery by a court of their peers. Scam or not, any company that harasses people into changing their forum posts, or who tries to get some random person on the internet fired from their job, is a 100% verified asshat.

So who wants to contact the people who did sell RF the Fulgrims?

So, Resin Forge doesn't even have a snide remark about not being "trollish" about this? Plus still no own photos from the HH Weekender, no photos of all the ordered goodies, not even a thank you to the "loyal readers" who sold them their Fulgrims? A bit anti-climactic

The only bad thing about this is that if things go south, they can just delete the whole Facebook page and pretend it never happened.

The only bad thing about this is that if things go south, they can just delete the whole Facebook page and pretend it never happened.

That what never happened?

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

The only bad thing about this is that if things go south, they can just delete the whole Facebook page and pretend it never happened.

That what never happened?

Resin Forge, and the mess they left behind. All of their activity will be gone except for screen shots that people took.

Resin Forge, and the mess they left behind. All of their activity will be gone except for screen shots that people took.

So what's the difference to his previous endeavours then? Sites disappear, memories and screenshots stay, as do messages.

His last two sites are still there I think, at least Three Stage Studios is.

My main thought is that as of right now, all the people that actually liked the page are a good united front if/when things go bad. As soon as the page is deleted all those connections between people are lost.

My main thought is that as of right now, all the people that actually liked the page are a good united front if/when things go bad. As soon as the page is deleted all those connections between people are lost.

Most of these people are one time likers who never did anything else. And I don't really get why it should be worrisome if connections between likers of a random page are lost?

No updates on the RF page in 14 hours. Seems mighty quiet when really they should be announcing how many Fulgrims(if any) they got and how they are going to handle refunds and who gets what.

I'd be VERY surprised if this all goes legitimately and everything is resolved properly.

Daniel hasn't had the testicular fortitude to email me again, which is a shame as I'd love to hear what he has to say.

 Aerethan wrote:
No updates on the RF page in 14 hours. Seems mighty quiet when really they should be announcing how many Fulgrims(if any) they got and how they are going to handle refunds and who gets what.

I'd be VERY surprised if this all goes legitimately and everything is resolved properly.

There's nothing stopping someone who doesn't get enough Fulgrims casting their own to sell to people that they have promised it to. Not that there is any evidence of that being the case here...but if there are more than 2 or 3 testimonials, it'll be seedy as all get out.

 Aerethan wrote:
No updates on the RF page in 14 hours. Seems mighty quiet when really they should be announcing how many Fulgrims(if any) they got and how they are going to handle refunds and who gets what.

I'd be VERY surprised if this all goes legitimately and everything is resolved properly.

Daniel hasn't had the testicular fortitude to email me again, which is a shame as I'd love to hear what he has to say.

i did contact resin forge about a week ago to ask how many fulgrims that were planning to get and how many of them had been "pre ordered" the reply was that all pre arranged fulgrim models had already been spoken for, so if that was true there wouldnt be any reason to post about how many models they were able to get unless they had been able to get more then expected

The problem there is that RF can claim "pre arranged" all they want, but it means nothing. No one was guaranteed to have a fulgrim at HH weekend. It was not 1 per customer. It was X qty, 1 per customer max until they sell out.


That is what is so sketchy about it. And unless it's a limited release model(which iirc it is not) then there's not massive reason to get one right away unless it's needed for some painting competition or something.

Even then, RF made such a stink on their FB page about Fulgrim that one would expect pics of the product in hand as RF has done with their "regular" orders.

It was not 1 per customer. It was X qty, 1 per customer max until they sell out.

Yes, but at the same time they came up with the scheme to buy up Fulgrims from people who didn't want theirs.

No updates on the RF page in 14 hours. Seems mighty quiet

Make that 22h And even more surprising considering the explosion of activities on other pages re Eldar and the surfacing of many new pics from the HH weekender - none of that although before every single pic of miniatures seemed to have been reposted. Maybe they all got sick in the RF team. Or lost the password for the account? Riddles everrywhere.

This was a pretty eye opening read, I had dealings with redstarone, but was completely unaware how deep this "rabbit hole" went.
I wish nothing but the worse for him.

What if the 'sale' is purely MandelBonder giving up? I bet his sales have plummeted since he got outed.... so the only thign he can do now is a fire sale.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

They do have a 10% sale on at the moment, time to buy people!

PLUS free shipping

Just give them your address, your phone number and the address of your employer

What if the 'sale' is purely MandelBonder giving up? I bet his sales have plummeted since he got outed.... so the only thign he can do now is a fire sale.

The likes of the pages are slightly higher than before and there seemed to be a lot of interaction going on.

EDIT: plus as said before, that sale was going on before the Weekender stuff.

Resin Forge Store
9:15pm (about an hour ago)
A little somethin, somethin among a very busy day!

So RF is still there. Busy packing parcels for the customers I assume.^^

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

What if the 'sale' is purely MandelBonder giving up? I bet his sales have plummeted since he got outed.... so the only thign he can do now is a fire sale.

The likes of the pages are slightly higher than before and there seemed to be a lot of interaction going on.

EDIT: plus as said before, that sale was going on before the Weekender stuff.

Still havent seen any pictures, with the RF stamp on it..... The one just posted, was taken by someone else.

That's one of Either a inky or Loken's photos. Still no news on a) how many Fulgrims he got or anything else for that matter.
He's a feckin liar. Pure and simple.

Its been interesting reading and watching this whole situation. At one point was going to place an order, but hell no now.....

Based on everything I have heard - and read - RF is not the sort of Business I would recommend to friends. I have suggested to everyone I know in the community to use the appropriate button on FB..