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 Alkasyn wrote:
To me it looks like paying off Alpharius is done to create a fake image of good will so that others don't go up in arms and cancel their orders.

Whoa - settle down there!

I was not "paid off" - I was PAID BACK - as in, money that was owed to me for years now was FINALLY returned.

BIG difference.

I am glad it is finally over and done with, but there's no quid pro quo, other than I can FINALLY be done with trying to get back what was owed to me.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Alkasyn wrote:
To me it looks like paying off Alpharius is done to create a fake image of good will so that others don't go up in arms and cancel their orders.

Whoa - settle down there!

I was not "paid off" - I was PAID BACK - as in, money that was owed to me for years now was FINALLY returned.

BIG difference.

I am glad it is finally over and done with, but there's no quid pro quo, other than I can FINALLY be done with trying to get back what was owed to me.

He means that RF's side of this looks like "paying off" in the sense that by fixing what is owed to YOU, all other issues will go away. That doesn't require any action from you, nor have you taken any. You have finally been righted after years of headache. That is a good thing. But it does not fix all that is wrong with RF or Mandelbondsley.

 Aerethan wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Alkasyn wrote:
To me it looks like paying off Alpharius is done to create a fake image of good will so that others don't go up in arms and cancel their orders.

Whoa - settle down there!

I was not "paid off" - I was PAID BACK - as in, money that was owed to me for years now was FINALLY returned.

BIG difference.

I am glad it is finally over and done with, but there's no quid pro quo, other than I can FINALLY be done with trying to get back what was owed to me.

He means that RF's side of this looks like "paying off" in the sense that by fixing what is owed to YOU, all other issues will go away. That doesn't require any action from you, nor have you taken any. You have finally been righted after years of headache. That is a good thing. But it does not fix all that is wrong with RF or Mandelbondsley.

But at the same time, Resin Forge is playing semantics (in a move I think is quite stupid). They claim that they have never owed anything, instead of coming out and saying, "One of the owners here at RF had gotten himself into some bad business practices and has hurt some people in our great hobby, and the other two here at Resin Forge are not about screwing over the community. We have since helped our third owner Daniel Mandelbaum pay back the money he owed to <redacted>. We are sorry things got to the point they had." BUT that would be what would happen if there was a board of 3 members, and Kim and Jason could overrule Daniel and not have this PR nightmare.

It doesn't help to turn this thread into a Mandelbaum/Resin Forge bash-a-thon, so please lead on facts rather than speculation.

If Resin Forge want to silence their critics, the simple thing is to publish their business registration number.

Am I the only one who thinks its hilarious that whomever, thought that publishing a CandD naming the owner of a business when the slander was naming the owner of the business? I do.

One of RF's followers has to say this:

Dylan LuciustheEternal Murphy
That person also is no longer involved with Resin Forge.
Seriously, you can make the same point without sounding like a douchebag.

LEXICANUM:
Dylan LuciustheEternal Murphy: you are saying Daniel Mandelbaum is not longer co-owner of Resin Forge?

Could somebody please point me at the last confirmed instance of Mandelbaum claiming to be co-owner of Resin Forge? Otherwise it's May 24th (Alpharius' statement).

Well, we have his "legal" filing where he claimed to be the owner.

The C&D Letter that began this thread?

Yup.

But who knows, maybe the fake lawyers who duped Resin Forge trolled them by naming an owner that doesn't exist.

It's all so complicated...

Well, we have his "legal" filing where he claimed to be the owner.

The C&D Letter that began this thread?

Both older than Alpharius's statement. In any case this new defender so far could not present any statement that would show his claim.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

Well, we have his "legal" filing where he claimed to be the owner.

The C&D Letter that began this thread?

Both older than Alpharius's statement. In any case this new defender so far could not present any statement that would show his claim.

Yeah, the link he posted was to the Issues with ResinForge thread, and the post he linked to said nothing about Daniel not being a part of it. Unless the FB user Dylan is midget overlord (the OP of that thread).

Yeah, the link he posted was to the Issues with ResinForge thread, and the post he linked to said nothing about Daniel not being a part of it. Unless the FB user Dylan is midget overlord (the OP of that thread).

I don't know. I am fairly sure that Dylan is the guy who had ordered "The Imperial Truth" to be brought by Resin Forge from the Horus Heresy Weekender. Interesting enough that

Plus, due to economic trouble at my home RF refunded me no questions asked and it was one of the fastest refunds I have dealt with.

So somebody who had ordered stuff from the Heresy Weekender pulled out and now turns up praising the quick refund. After refusing several contact attempts to ask about the book I can add

Resin Forge now claims Mandelbaum has quit fyi. They didn't seem to feel like mentioning that to the greater public... probably because his info and locations will still be Mandelbaum info and locations and he realizes pretending he quit could bite him later as any hint of Mandelbaum from now on will expose another huge lie in my estimation.

At least he left a crack team of partners in his wake who studied all his spelling mistakes and syntax errors, and high strung aggressive emailing and posting policies before he 'left'. We are in good hands people.

The King is dead, long live the King?

I welcome the RF team to call me and discuss this recent development.

 MajorTom11 wrote:
Resin Forge now claims Mandelbaum has quit fyi.

Wait what? Where? I don't see it on their fb page, the only thing I see/saw was the post from Dylan on the Lexicanum page. Screenshots?

Resin Forge now claims Mandelbaum has quit fyi.

Wait what? Where? I don't see it on their fb page, the only thing I see/saw was the post from Dylan on the Lexicanum page. Screenshots?

Dito. Puzzled!

Like I said, this was never publicly posted, but you can see that the guy yelling at Lex is implying the same. This was in various emails flying around in the past 2-3 days.

Like I said, this was never publicly posted, but you can see that the guy yelling at Lex is implying the same. This was in various emails flying around in the past 2-3 days.

Emails from who to who?

Which is odd, as RF removing Daniel would be seen as a positive towards their image. They'd still need to provide proof, but it would be a start.

 Inquisitor S. wrote:

Like I said, this was never publicly posted, but you can see that the guy yelling at Lex is implying the same. This was in various emails flying around in the past 2-3 days.

Emails from who to who?

I'm assuming that Tom and RF have been in communications. Though a nice little repost, with important things like your name and email. taken out might be helpful

Nope, would rather keep any detailing of that nature to myself... if you guys trust me on this subject, which I hope you would at this point, just take my word for it.

You know how he is, there is no point saying any names or he will just cluster bomb their inboxes with vitriol...

I'm assuming that Tom and RF have been in communications. Though a nice little repost, with important things like your name and email. taken out might be helpful

In any case we have all the Mandelbaum addresses. Will be easy to check that with future orders and payments.

I kinda miss the hate filled emails. They helped pass the time.

 Alpharius wrote:

 Alkasyn wrote:
To me it looks like paying off Alpharius is done to create a fake image of good will so that others don't go up in arms and cancel their orders.

Whoa - settle down there!

I was not "paid off" - I was PAID BACK - as in, money that was owed to me for years now was FINALLY returned.

BIG difference.

I am glad it is finally over and done with, but there's no quid pro quo, other than I can FINALLY be done with trying to get back what was owed to me.

I didn't mean it in a negative sense.I certainly didn't want to imply you were bribed

What I meant is that he paid what he was due to make it look like he is trying to turn his "alleged" scams around. Similarly like he asked some people earlier, those who received their stuff, to post in a thread defending him - this time, however, he wouldn't be asking for anything - hoping that by paying you back what he owed to 1 active member of the community, others would assume he runs a legitimate business and did not intend to start any scams.

Whenever Mandelbaum does what he should have done, deliver paid for goods, he thinks he owns you after that. So long as you get paid, whether it be today or 10 years later, not only does he think that absolves him of all responsibility for taking your money without permission for years on end, not only that, but you now owe him for so magnanimously paying you back with absolutely no compensation for the damages he did by taking it without permission in the first place.

It's just another Mandelbaum thing.

Well i for one am Totally convinced and well done to FW for managing to get all that stuff that they had to ship out to the USA out to them in under 5 working days (obviously express delivery ) including casting ( i'm glad i sent FW a message just now praising the dispatch's and inquiring as to when the rest of us can order / receive our Fulgrims) since Yorkshire is that much further away from Nottingham we need that little bit longer

Oh and RF i never said " plastic bits" i said that mine and my good friend's bits boxes were a little bit larger than that photo please don't misquote me that could be misconstrued and people might start being very he said ,they said and unpleasant

I thought, Resin Forge had Mandelbaum's address and phone number. Are you sure, that he didn't just change his identity again?
Guess we have to judge from spelling and attitude of official posts then.

The Resin Forge phone is a mobile number, i.e. a cell phone. It could be carried by anyone.

Resin Forge have not made their address public AFAIK.

These points prove nothing about the owners' identities.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
The Resin Forge phone is a mobile number, i.e. a cell phone. It could be carried by anyone.

Resin Forge have not made their address public AFAIK.

These points prove nothing about the owners' identities.

Let's not forget that Daniel called saying he was "Jason" from Michael Mandelbaums caller ID to my work, speaking on behalf of Resin Forge. A screenshot of which is posted here somewhere.