Cease & Desist letter sent to Dakka on behalf of Resin Forge & its owner Daniel Mandelbaum

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**kronk**

Drael wrote:
It's the same room, check both mirrors. It would be too much of a coincidence that they both share the same frame thingie. This is hilarious.

It's the same furniture and bird, at the very least.

**Enigwolf**

Alfndrate wrote:
WTF?!

Kim, Daniel, please just stop. No one is threatening you, no one is showing doctored photographs, no one is posting your sensitive online information that you yourselves did not post (i.e. the video of morty who is a beautiful bird and the old myspace photo). Since the beginning we have simply been trying to alert people the presence and involvement of Daniel Mandelbaum, a person who has treated his customers poorly over the years. While you may claim that Daniel has left the company, nothing you've done has given us proof that Daniel is not potentially involved. You provided no proof that you legally have the right to operate as a business in Texas, which would prove who is in charge of the company and provide some level of legality should Resin Forge, or its owners be involved in unscrupulous actions. Since you haven't provided any information, we looked into the reasons why. I was suggested earlier by me in this thread that you two had dated (based on what "Jason" had told me via facebook). Well if you dated, what's to say that you two don't have some pieces of an online life together. That's where Morty comes into play. He was just a piece of evidence that not only suggested you and Daniel know each other, but that you still know each other.

Just come clean, admit that Daniel has done things in the past that have marred his actions within this community, admit that you weren't a legally registered company in Texas, and admit that you and he are married, living together, mother and father to a kid or two. Just stop lying at every turn. Daniel does some fantastic work, but he won't ever be able to produce that work without incident if he doesn't fess up for his past transgressions.

-Alf

Exalted for truth.

**Necros**

<-- that username makes me anonymous! Just like every other poster on Dakka, unless they use their real name when they post stuff. So yes we are in fact all anonymous.

I even remember, back in the day, I always used to hate having to spell anonymous when I had to ftp stuff, cuz I always spelled it wrong. The Y makes it tricky.

**Art Steventon**

Btw meant to mention:
The FB link on the previous page to the 'Chaos Space Marines' group has been killed, following a few of us posting the other side to the argument.

Seems even when he's not on his page MandelBonder can evade direct questions, especially when he has his supporters blindly doing his dirty work?

Though I wonder what GW would make of such blatant IP theft as on that page.....

**Inquisitor S.**

Though I wonder what GW would make of such blatant IP theft as on that page.....

Boy, and people say the Inquisition and me personally were vengeful

It's the same room, check both mirrors. It would be too much of a coincidence that they both share the same frame thingie. This is hilarious.

Good eyes there, you will make a suited acolyte! I had not seen that it was a mirror. That now also explains the different angles

**Flippa**

I originally thought it could be just Daniel pulling the wool over Kimanies eyes about all this, and getting her to help him out. It would appear they are both as disgusting as each other! :(

Although not a huge community member, I'm glad to be part of the community here on DakkaDakka and will be DCM by the end of the month

**Art Steventon**

Inquisitor S. wrote:
Though I wonder what GW would make of such blatant IP theft as on that page.....

Boy, and people say the Inquisition and me personally were vengeful

What can I say? Where you are slightly... Radical, I'm a Puritan through and through.

**MagickalMemories**

Inquisitor S. wrote:

Any chance of someone hosting these images on a site besides imgur? Imgur is not a work-friendly site.

Suggestions for a work-friendly site?

Photobucket is.

Thank you for the consideration.

Eric

**AustonT**

Inquisitor S. wrote:Not necessarily the same room. But possibly the same stuff (people can move, and there's a possibility that KH/SH moved to Texas). Pure speculation. And lots of coincidences. Not saying it's the same person, merely raising similarities. Allegedly.

MajorTom11 wrote:REALLY??? cmon man, wood wall, rack of clothes, brit glad and some other posters the same, some changed, same skin color and build on the hand, same artificial only lighting, same size room... gimme a break dude...

Inquisitor S. wrote:
And the videos were immediately removed...

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@AustonT: still believe in coincidences? Just a pure coincidence that some minutes after posting one link in a surely not worldwide followed threat on an obscure not-bird-related forum, a person which is not connected to Mandelbaum/ Hernandez decides to close her channel?Yeah....

I didn't say I didn't think it was a damning link; just that they weren't the same room and years apart. The background while similar is not convincing. As I said before the voice is the same; which with the name and the screeching in the video is plenty.

Pulling the thread is an admission of guilt; it also had a video of thier kid so I don't really blame them. Scum that they are, protecting your childre is laudable.

**Inquisitor S.**

@MagickalMemories:
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r662/inquisitorlex/rfflag_zps78e27ab2.jpg

and

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r662/inquisitorlex/mortyflag_zpsd103783a.jpg

**Aerethan**

It has been a satisfying week for this thread, I feel. So many loose ends finally getting tied together.

**Ammobunkerdean**

Go ahead. File a police report. We really want the person making threatening phone calls to you to be caught. The police have tools for finding people even with a Google phone number.

But just know for any police report. Your name has to go on it.... Resin Forge's name will go on it. Your lack of a buisiness ID will come up. The alleged fraud will come up.

Your threats are hollow because they will then turn and look at you. Have fun.

**Inquisitor S.**

It has been a satisfying week for this thread, I feel. So many loose ends finally getting tied together.

I had the mental image of a sweater where everything comes apart because we pulled long enough on the threads

But just know for any police report. Your name has to go on it.... Resin Forge's name will go on it. Your lack of a buisiness ID will come up. The alleged fraud will come up.

Your threats are hollow because they will then turn and look at you. Have fun.

Not to mention that it will look really awkward when they trace those "emails" and "phone calls" (if you can prove them) and they end up at your own place again or at an unsuspecting friend's one. Hooray for Prism?

Unless you want to send people to look here and find... nothing. *gasp*

**12thRonin**

And if it wasn't their content, they wouldn't be complaining about Cyberstalking.

**Inquisitor S.**

And if it wasn't their content, they wouldn't be complaining about Cyberstalking.

Especially because all their calls to Aerethan are logged and recorded. Now THAT will be fun to explain, won't it?

**Alfndrate**

Inquisitor S. wrote:
And if it wasn't their content, they wouldn't be complaining about Cyberstalking.

Especially because all their calls to Aerethan are logged and recorded. Now THAT will be fun to explain, won't it?

That was "Jason" remember

**Aerethan**

Inquisitor S. wrote:
And if it wasn't their content, they wouldn't be complaining about Cyberstalking.

Especially because all their calls to Aerethan are logged and recorded. Now THAT will be fun to explain, won't it?

And they sought out my info using the very tactics they complain about, by looking on my profile for ways to mess with me, and finding my company info.

**Squigsquasher**

Christ, and I thought some of my dumber moments were stupid.

I mean, I've actually forgotten what it was they were doing to start with that they decided they needed to commit identity fraud over.

Here's to hoping that our "good friends" at Resin Forge get properly brought to justice.

**Inquisitor S.**

That was "Jason" remember

Doesn't matter. I bet "Jason" lives in the same place as all the others

And they sought out my info using the very tactics they complain about, by looking on my profile for ways to mess with me, and finding my company info.

That's something COMPLETELY else, you are no girl. So you are not allowed to say these bad bad allegations that they used stalking methods, naughty boy!

*sarcasm*

**Hogun**

On another note, I really do feel that AJ (nice bloke that you are) should post on the RF facebook page, letting the people know there that his admin access has been revoked prior to/at the time of their last post there. Plus give any reasons why this has happened etc, if there are any.

Feel this would help a lot.....

**Ammobunkerdean**

Inquisitor S. wrote:
That was "Jason" remember

Doesn't matter. I bet "Jason" lives in the same place as all the others

And they sought out my info using the very tactics they complain about, by looking on my profile for ways to mess with me, and finding my company info.

That's something COMPLETELY else, you are no girl. So you are not allowed to say these bad bad allegations that they used stalking methods, naughty boy! *sarcasm*

The funny thing is that RF werent doing anything wrong... The first thread was just, "Hey, be careful with your money. RF is owned by Mandelbaum and he has a history of stuff in the past." The Identity "theft" has all been put on as a sham to make Dakka look like the bad guys for pointing out that RF is owned by Mandelbaum....

I used to like soap operas for the idiotic things people did to themselves... this is better...

**Kroothawk**

Maybe police procecuting criminals is a form of harassing and stalking, from the viewpoint of a criminal

**Enigwolf**

Kroothawk wrote:
Maybe police procecuting criminals is a form of harassing and stalking, from the viewpoint of a criminal

I would certainly say so.

**MagickalMemories**

Inquisitor S. wrote:
@MagickalMemories:
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r662/inquisitorlex/rfflag_zps78e27ab2.jpg

and

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r662/inquisitorlex/mortyflag_zpsd103783a.jpg

Thanks.

For those who don't want to click the links:

In comparing the two, I see similarities in the flag and the thin/bony hand, arm and wrist.
I think the clothes comparison, as it sits, is wrong. The room would have to have been entirely moved around. The clothes in the reflection are on the wrong side of the flag for it to be the same set up.
:shrug:

Eric

**Shepherd23**

Ok, I haven't really had anything to add to this discussion until now. I have not read all 82 pages, so if this has been brought up before now, tell DM and SH to C&D me or something.

http://www.resthavenfuneral.com/obituaries/obituaries-detail.cfm?method=2&id=1738

This is the link to Susans Beasley/Whites obituary with the funeral home that handled her funeral. Go to the second to the last reply entry and you will see SH condolences. They read as follows:

One always struggles to find the right words to say in situations like these, and I'm afraid I'm no exception to that rule. All I can offer is my sympathy and my help. I know that losing Susan has been difficult for the family, especially for her son Daniel.And I will do my best to offer comfort during this time.
Even though I never personally knew Susan, I felt an immediate motherly connection towards her. She seemed heartfelt. Someone who I can speak to without typical judgement. I only wished I spoke to her more often. But I thank her for expressing enthusiam and positivity over Daniel and I's union together as a young couple. It meant alot to me, more than I could ever express. Thank you Susan.
-Stephanie Hernandez

If that doesn't scream out that we are an item, I don't know what else to do.

Good luck with the witch hunt and may DM and SH get the jail times they deserve. And NO posting this info isn't harrassment. It is public knowledge that was gained just by typing both idiots names in a google search.

**Alfndrate**

Yeah, I brought that up a few weeks ago, "Jason" told me they only dated... but obviously it was a lie

.

**AustonT**

Wait there's going to be a witch hunt AND NONE OF YOU PM'ed ME?.

I'm unfriending you kronk.

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Alfndrate wrote:
Yeah, I brought that up a few weeks ago, "Jason" told me they only dated... but obviously it was a lie .

People frequently refer to dating as a "union" in this day and age.
...wait; no.

**Aerethan**

Shepherd23 wrote:
Ok, I haven't really had anything to add to this discussion until now. I have not read all 82 pages, so if this has been brought up before now, tell DM and SH to C&D me or something.

http://www.resthavenfuneral.com/obituaries/obituaries-detail.cfm?method=2&id=1738

This is the link to Susans Beasley/Whites obituary with the funeral home that handled her funeral. Go to the second to the last reply entry and you will see SH condolences. They read as follows:

One always struggles to find the right words to say in situations like these, and I'm afraid I'm no exception to that rule. All I can offer is my sympathy and my help. I know that losing Susan has been difficult for the family, especially for her son Daniel.And I will do my best to offer comfort during this time.
Even though I never personally knew Susan, I felt an immediate motherly connection towards her. She seemed heartfelt. Someone who I can speak to without typical judgement. I only wished I spoke to her more often. But I thank her for expressing enthusiam and positivity over Daniel and I's union together as a young couple. It meant alot to me, more than I could ever express. Thank you Susan.
-Stephanie Hernandez

If that doesn't scream out that we are an item, I don't know what else to do.

Good luck with the witch hunt and may DM and SH get the jail times they deserve. And NO posting this info isn't harrassment. It is public knowledge that was gained just by typing both idiots names in a google search.

That was noted towards the beginning of this thread already.

I will note that the mirror in both pics above is the same border. So things we have similar in the two: the hands, the flag, and the mirror as well as the general color scheme of the room. Also, both rooms have seemingly random smatterings of posters and pictures pinned to the walls, and a clothes rack out in the open.

It may be circumstantial evidence, but it's far too much to be coincidental.

**Shepherd23**

The word "UNION" has never been used to confer "Just dating" to my knowledge. Maybe I am daft, but I have always taken UNION to mean married.

So, If I have this correct, SH is DM long dead wife that died 3 times of cancer or some crap. That must be the reason for the mask. Years in the grave does not do well for the skin!

At this point, if all this info is already know, why are people even attempting to get them to fess up? Everyone knows they wont. They never will until they stand before a judge. The endless pursuit of an admission of guilt is completely pointless with these morons. They are obviously connected, they are obviously working together to screw people and they have obviously been caught again. Their next step is go to ground and lay low while they setup the next scam. At that time, someone will bust them again and rinse and repeat.

Trying to get an admission is pointless.

**Art Steventon**

FIRE UP THE PITCHFORKS, WE'RE GOING IN!

Seriously, whilst the Obit. is salient information, it's also a a little uncomfortable for me as some of DM's complaints stemmed from the referencing of his late mother.

Though I am reminded that in the 'Hive Mind' burn account posting, mention was made of his mother again - let's not drag her or children into this please?