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Probably because the alleged death threat was allegedly made up for alleged sympathy and all in his alleged mind, allegedly.

 
   
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 Necros wrote:
in his alleged mind


HA!

On a related note, the RF page has been quiet since Thursday. Give it another week before we need to start looking in to any new bits or conversion pop up sites.

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 albinoork wrote:
On June 27, 9:07 am I posted the following question on Resin Forge's Facebook page, on the thread with the clown from It, "Did the death threat come from a member of the Dakka community or from another source? Can Resin Forge please clarify?"

I can longer view the thread, but as of yesterday there was still not a response.


I posted a link to this thread in that post but they've got it hidden so you can't see it. Not banned me or anything though.
   
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 MajorTom11 wrote:

Sorry Seaward I know you are trying to be the 'voice of reason' and establish legitimacy, but you aren't going to accomplish much throwing doubt on items that are beyond doubt, or grasping onto the 2% chance that despite all the evidence to the contrary the few items that don't have huge point blank final proof are also worth ignoring despite having so, so, so, so much to point otherwise.

I'm not trying to be the 'voice of reason' or establish legitimacy. I'm trying to explain to you that not everyone's going to read fethloads of forum postings to understand where you're coming from, in response to all the, "How can these Facebook peoples be so dumb?" posts of late.
   
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 Seaward wrote:
 MajorTom11 wrote:

Sorry Seaward I know you are trying to be the 'voice of reason' and establish legitimacy, but you aren't going to accomplish much throwing doubt on items that are beyond doubt, or grasping onto the 2% chance that despite all the evidence to the contrary the few items that don't have huge point blank final proof are also worth ignoring despite having so, so, so, so much to point otherwise.

I'm not trying to be the 'voice of reason' or establish legitimacy. I'm trying to explain to you that not everyone's going to read fethloads of forum postings to understand where you're coming from, in response to all the, "How can these Facebook peoples be so dumb?" posts of late.


Agreed with this. Yes, there's google, but... This thread is... Long.

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 albinoork wrote:
On June 27, 9:07 am I posted the following question on Resin Forge's Facebook page, on the thread with the clown from It, "Did the death threat come from a member of the Dakka community or from another source? Can Resin Forge please clarify?"

I can longer view the thread, but as of yesterday there was still not a response.


No your Question is still there but remains unanswered

But Interestingly RF are now lamenting the fact that there stuck with the stock ! Didn't they claim the had sold almost half of the stock and had a bulk buyer for nearly all the rest ?

I sense another round of " Were closing due to Dakka Nazi's if you want anything please use our new payment system (unmarked bills in a plain envelope only please ) "

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 Savagecoyote wrote:
But Interestingly RF are now lamenting the fact that there stuck with the stock ! Didn't they claim the had sold almost half of the stock and had a bulk buyer for nearly all the rest ?


They claim a lot of things.

Allegedly.
   
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Leerstetten, Germany

At least they can always take it to their next episode of "Guess the owner".

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That question is still there, albinoork, with one Like, but no response.

MT, might it be an idea to do an easily referenced "Mandlebaum Saga" article, with links to the evidence and posts from those known to have lost out from previous ventures, so people can be pointed at one spot for details? Obviously such an article would need locking down to prevent edits from every Jason, Daniel and Matthew, but it would make it a lot easier for people to see why people around here are so concerned by this person's previous actions and involvement in a business?

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This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

tneva82 wrote:
You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... 
   
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TERRA

1.) Yes, next round of whining and new ownership will come up soon, quite probable. Expect offers per PM etc as last times *yawn*


2.) Still no post from AJ on the RF page that his mod rights were revoked - wonder why

   
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New Orleans, LA

Yeah. Until they stop posting and shut down the Resin Forge Store facebook page, they're still selling via PM.

They won't stop while they can make a few bucks off someone.

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I've been following this drama for quite some time now. I'd first like to thank you all for making me feel better about my life... Drama like this makes me realize how good I have it. Anyways, 1 question...

 Inquisitor S. wrote:
1.) Yes, next round of whining and new ownership will come up soon, quite probable. Expect offers per PM etc as last times *yawn*


2.) Still no post from AJ on the RF page that his mod rights were revoked - wonder why


How can the stock be a tax write off when the business wasn't a taxable entry in the first place? Wouldn't he need to be a liscensed business to be eligible?
   
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New Orleans, LA

It wouldn't be a tax write off in that sense, no. Dave is naively asking if they'll simply write it off, as a proper business would.

RFS's reply is simply that they're stuck with the stock.

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 Inquisitor S. wrote:
1.) Yes, next round of whining and new ownership will come up soon, quite probable. Expect offers per PM etc as last times *yawn*


2.) Still no post from AJ on the RF page that his mod rights were revoked - wonder why


Did he get revoked?

Back to the stock situation, there are various things Resin Forge could do to off-load their remaining stock, such as to continue selling normally, or to sell the whole lot to another bits seller.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
 Inquisitor S. wrote:
1.) Yes, next round of whining and new ownership will come up soon, quite probable. Expect offers per PM etc as last times *yawn*


2.) Still no post from AJ on the RF page that his mod rights were revoked - wonder why


Did he get revoked?

Back to the stock situation, there are various things Resin Forge could do to off-load their remaining stock, such as to continue selling normally, or to sell the whole lot to another bits seller.


yes, AJ's last post in this thread mentioned that his moderator status had been revoked before the "death threat" post.

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TERRA

yes, AJ's last post in this thread mentioned that his moderator status had been revoked before the "death threat" post.


And as AJ's post still stands now without ANY modification or comment from his side, he is still "active" as mod and person of trust if you wish on RF's page.


Yeah, that happens when "companies" act like RF

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What I do not get is why did they shut down. You made a case and some people stopped buying. But with all of the "support" on their page they could just keep on selling. I would have closed down the facebook page and just keep the website going and selling. (I know the real reason is not people are calling the state for non collection of sales tax they need to hide). If they were legimately selling in the state they could just keep on going and ignore Dakka,
   
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New Orleans, LA

tiger g wrote:
If they were legitimately selling in the state they could just keep on going and ignore Dakka,


This is a profound statement, Tiger g.

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tiger g wrote:
If they were legimately selling in the state they could just keep on going and ignore Dakka,


Bolded the key issue here, we don't know if they were legitimate or not, and that's the kick, because they refused to confirm it.

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 Ouze wrote:

Well, you don't stuff facts into the Right Wing Outrage Machine©. My friend, you load it with derp and sensationalism, and then crank that wheel.
 
   
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Western PA

"Being the now sole owner of Resin Forge, I wish to alleviate all concerns anyone may have. As the transition takes over, only the company name will stay the same, Resin Forge. I will be filling it as my own personal LLC and have had advice about going the DBA route instead. It will take research and in the mean time, the store will stay closed. We will also go ahead and make our UK customers feel safe with a listed phone number as well as a public address listed plainly for all to see. This will allow in store pickup for locals as well as the comfort for our overseas brothers and sisters in the community. "

That is from their FB page. They were not a registered anything. It was an illegal business, plain and simple.

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Too bad about that public address listed plainly for all to see too, forgot about that!

Probably instantly dismissed it as a delaying tactic lie, and so it was. Nothing if not predictable on certain things...

   
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So what's his/her next play?


Edit: PM it to me and I will hold it in trust.... :p

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New Orleans, LA

THEY will keep posting updates like "We're getting the paper work together" then delay with "Well, we're looking into registering as ___" all the while saying, in the mean time, you can PM me orders...

That's a guess.

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I do believe that the threat of legal action through the authorities probably scared them more than a little than they cared to admit. Remember this was barely a few days after we decided that it would be a good course to take.

Oh, and by the way. Hello David Aliasbaum! *waves* We know you're watching us!

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Or Mandelbaum is about to, or has already, started a new business under a new name both corporate and as a personal alias.

   
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Somewhere in south-central England.

Honestly I don't know why he doesn't simply make a legitimate company. Make it an LLC and when it goes bust he is in the clear.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
Honestly I don't know why he doesn't simply make a legitimate company. Make it an LLC and when it goes bust he is in the clear.

And it keeps his personal assets separate from any legal action. It does however mean his income is taxable, and leave a papertrail. That means that he can be identified as being affiliated with the company without sending a cease and desist letter.

 
   
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Sorry double post.

The youtube video of the happy/customer/commission painter, has been made private now.

Plus AJ would think it would be a great idea if you post on the RF facebook page about your situation with them and that while posting in the Dakkadakk forums, it was all friendly and we aren't baby eaters or a Nazi hate page etc.

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Hogun wrote:
Plus AJ would think it would be a great idea if you post on the RF facebook page about your situation with them and that while posting in the Dakkadakk forums, it was all friendly and we aren't baby eaters or a Nazi hate page etc.

I don't think that we need to solicit people to go and post about Dakka on our behalf. This thread is available for anyone who wished to read it and I think it shows that we are not just the caricature that has been presented.


(please place the word "allegedly" in any place you deem appropriate )

 
   
 
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