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Perhaps this is the PR guy we were promised a while ago...

Oh dear, I hope he is not from Germany and wasn't paid via paypal!

 MajorTom11 wrote:
I can now confirm that Sharkfrom Jawz is an RF sockpuppet account and is an adminitrator on their FB page. I cannot divulge how I came by the info, but it is solid.

See above... it's obvious, anyway, though.

Honestly Inquisitor S, I would just ignore him. He thrives off the attention a bit and one more sockpuppet down doesn't really mean much. No one's listening to anything he's saying through accounts like that. And the whole community is now on the watch for him to return with a new venture.

So, no need to engage him anymore, imo.

No, it's him, definitely. Sharkfrom Jawz is Mandelbaum, beyond a doubt, and is an admin of the Resin Forge FB page, and as can easily be seen from the google pic, was just created to stir things up and propogate the idea that we are saying things we aren't while avoiding everything we are.

Keep it up Daniel. It's amazing you don't get bored... making fake identities for no tangible gain must be your true calling in life, most smart people would just go out and get an actual job by now instead of doing this over and over again for years...

See ya next time Sharkey.

Honestly Inquisitor S, I would just ignore him. He thrives off the attention a bit and one more sockpuppet down doesn't really mean much. No one's listening to anything he's saying through accounts like that. And the whole community is now on the watch for him to return with a new venture.

No worries, it's all just fun Daniel himself will lead us to his next venture, zero doubt about that. He seems to be quite apt with his fingers when building models. But clumsy as a not very bright child trying to steal cookies. Don't forget how much we already got him to slip up with by doing exactly what we do. We don't care about his sockpuppets accounts. But every post made by him from different accounts is mapped and contributes to the puzzle

Keep it up Daniel. It's amazing you don't get bored

As I see it, this guy has no choice than to continue his pattern. His behaviour and actions hint to serious mental problems. On a level, he supposedly indeed sees himself to be the victim of an orchestrated campaign to ruin his life. On a level, he probably won't even be able to understand that his actions are fraud. You can bet he isn't even capable of empathy: he simply cannot imagine how others feel about his behaviour and actions. Now he is so deeply emerged into his pattern of behaviour, he won't come out of it by himself anymore. This can only end with a catastrophy that either shakes him so much he asks for professional help (won't happen if he has an outright mental disorder) or stops him in other ways.

Continuing that line of thought, if he does have the serious mental issues it seems he does, getting caught or otherwise put into the system might be one of the best things that could happen to him - if the authorities can recognise that he has a serious mental disorder and give him the proper care/treatment, whether he likes it or not. Does the US have a proper mental health screening procedure when cases like this come up, or will it be more likely that he would get fined and tossed out into the cold? If he is crazy then it's very hard to hold any kind of real vitriol against him, despite his actions. Compulsions are no fun for anybody, least of all the person driven by them.

I don't know if you read this thread, Stephanie. Or even Jason if you're a real person. Please, take a step back and really look at the situation. Is this where you wanted to be? Is this what you wanted out of life for Daniel? There's help out there if you look for it and a chance of a very different future. I hope you take a few moments to read this and maybe do a few Google searches or contact a helpline. I know it can be scary to reach out, thinking people will judge you, but there are lots of people out there who are just waiting to help you, and lots who have gone through the same thing and come out the other side. Daniel can too.

(Sorry if that was a bit off-topic mods, but I think it needed to be said.)

 Inquisitor S. wrote:
Parrots, sharks... What next? Rats would be fitting somehow

I object!

now i wouldn't claim to be an expert, i do have a degree in psychology I've never used it in anger, and i wouldn't want to diagnose someone without talking to them face to face, i think this is more like the Nigerian dating scam. I've helped a few people out with those and the scamer in those will keep ongoing blindly even when faced with the evidence if they think there is a chance they can still gain especially if its not costing them anything. Arguing with us on the internet is probably costing them nothing and if they still makes some sales they no doubt the think its worth it. besides i think right now its a case of trying to prove who is cleverer even if he still fools one person he will see that as a win.

If there is a mental health problem i think just like in the UK in the US you can't be forced to take your medicine anyway so even if he got treatment, he could give up on it and start it all again especially if its a compulsion or addiction.

The mental health program in America is pretty crappy. Trying to get someone with an issue to the hospital is all but near impossible if they don't want to go. The police won't take them unless they are a danger to someone, and ambulances won't bring them in unless they agree. I have a family member with bipolar-schizophrenia and I go through the same song and dance each time. They are not forced to take their meds, except when they are finally at the hospital, and observation after they leave the hospital drops down to monthly visits to councelor. It's not a great system. That said, if help is needed here, and the person in question does need medication and can be convinced to take it and stay on it, it can help greatly. But said person needs to be willing to make the effort themselves. The system only helps to a certain extent. I don't believe in free handouts at all, but I truly feel it doesn't do close to enough to meet the needs of my family member. YMMV. Mods, hope that was general/vague enough answer LC's questions without looking like an attack on anyone. We all know how things can get twisted in this situation, even things that look harmless.

The concern and well wishing for troubled souls shown by Dakkanauts is admirable indeed.

But I think it best we end this particular diversion so as not to clutter the thread.

Thanks.

Okay, is something going on with the FB page? Maybe it was the talk of our concern about his mental state(not to disobey you Red!), but I just got a call to my house from
Sharky Mandlebonder's "214" #. Weird. Since you're clearly following this Matstefimie, this is your warning, don't do it again. I will not pass messages. Grow a pair, create
an account and say it yourself.

Okay, is something going on with the FB page?

No. But in any case Mandelnez tries his utmost to keep away even his own messages in uneditted form from his disciples, therefore he has to try to get his "statements" posted by other channels. You know the procedure to report harassment by phone, Rick

I do! I've done it before, and I'll do it again! My phone just rang again with his inability to comprehend what I typed earlier it would seem.
Daniel, make my phone ring one more time and I will be calling the police. 2nd warning Daniel. There will not be a third.

His buttons, it seems you are pushing them

Man I leave this thread for a few days and all sorts of fun stuff happens.

 Alfndrate wrote:
His buttons, it seems you are pushing them

Man I leave this thread for a few days and all sorts of fun stuff happens.

But that's just it Alf, I haven't done jack! I was literally checking some Feebay auctions, and then....."ring, ring"!

I just wish he's forget my phone # and remember my email address instead! Much quieter.....


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I forgot about the Escondido ,Ca. # that he calls from! That # just called, and my wife answered it while I was in the can.
He told her to tell me he was calling to apologize, not fight? He owes others and needs to leave me alone. I've made my peace with
his and my issues and moved on. I will not hesitate to tell others to avoid him though. I will do everything in my power to help anyone
avoid the traps he sets, for them and himself. If you're really sorry Daniel, get help. Professional help. For you and those around you.

Edit:
I started typing this outside, getting ready to cut some wood for some stairs we're making. My wife just came outside a said he called AGAIN!
Really putting emphasis on how sorry he was and that I understand that! She told him not to call again, and he agreed. Daniel, go to the ER.
Put the phone down, go to the hospital. Please.

This sounds like he's possibly setting the stage to start threatening to hurt himself. I seem to remember this during the MWC implosion. I'm
not calling you out Daniel and saying you won't. Actually I'm afraid you really might. That is only going to hurt you and those that love you. Do
yourself a favor and please seek help. I really mean it, not being an ass.

Rick, surely this constitutes harassment? I'd be getting his ass injuncted at the first opportunity.

Does Daniel really not see what he's done? What he's slowly become over the period of a few months?

While it is amusing to speculate about Mandelbaum's mental health, it isn't relevant to the core topic.

Guys, again, let's drop this mental health business as a point made.

@Daniel, stop calling random people who want nothing to do with you just because they are the only one's you have phone #s for.

You want to do something constructive and apologize for real? How about writing an open letter to the community listing all your former aliases, former businesses. How about a blanket apology and retraction of all your bs accusations such as Dakka making death threats or mocking your deceased mother. How about copping to all of it.

Then, whenever you start a new business, how about notifying ithe community it is you before we find out otherwise. How about showing your registration etc before we ask for it. If all that could be done it would go a heck of a long way to putting a bit of stock in anything you have to say, for anyone.

Other than that, there is no one you can call, no person from your past capable of digging you out of the hole you made for yourself. Stop looking to other people for either help or to put blame on, start doing the right thing by yourself for yourself. No one wants to hear from you on a one to one basis, I assure you, you can't walk over burnt bridges.

This thread has run its course. There is no new information coming forth, and I believe everyone involved has had their say.

As someone who doesn't have a dog in this fight, I'm going to lock the thread. If anything new comes to light regarding this matter, please start a new thread on the topic.

Thank you.

FYI to the community and those following this thread -

A summary of the history of Daniel Mandelbaum in the wargaming community is here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/538614.page

Thank you for your interest and efforts in this thread!