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These things are brutal. At least for my army, I have just started out with the Caledonian Highland Sectorial and they seem to have a severe lack of specialist troops. I could try and include an engineer, but the model would be bringing literally nothing to my army apart from that one skill, and for 18/19 points I don't know what to drop. Alternatively I could work in the FO SAS model, but there is nothing else which can benefit from his FO abilities, so again I'll be taking an (even more) expensive model just to hack one box or something then hide for the rest of the game.

I've played 2 games of it so far, both were supply run. I lucked into one win because I managed to HMG my opponent's specialist troop after he had opened the box, then snaffled it up when it dropped. I then kept the rest of his specialist troops away. The second one I just rolled really well and killed everything before the boxes became an option, but it was ridiculous luck (my Highland Grey engaging two people from a link team with her HMG, critting twice, once against each opponent, and killing them. This was after she impetuoused out of cover, got ARO'd by two of my opponents models, and did the exact same thing. It was ridiculous).

I just felt really weak in terms of actually achieving the objectives.

I ran a QK 300pt list with a najjarun engineer and a 3 man Kaplan link team - against Combine and just managed to win on secondaries in the 3 turns (one objective each, I killed more of his stuff than he killed of mine).

You certainly have to push for the objectives, but not just throw troops at it.

It's certainly a mission where certain armies will be better than others at the objective getting.
PanO with their AVA1 engineer, for example. Good thing they have more hackers or Forward observers (other specialists).

I am finding the lack of specialists for Highlanders a bit of an issue too. I have the advantage of owning almost every Ariadna model so I can use vanilla if needed (Irmandinhos are the isht) but the Highlander sectorial is seriously lacking in some aspects.

I find that they are really lacking models in the 12-22 point range too. They have a lot of very cheap units and a lot of expensive units (well for Ariadna anyway) but not much in between other than SAS

Don't forget that Uxia McNeill is a "Specialist" as well.

Dozer Engineer w/Mul, SAS FO, Lieutenant, and Uxia is 4 Specialists (2 of which infiltrate). The SAS FO has synergy with the Traktor Mul the Engineer brings along.

To be honest I haven't really looked at the Muls yet as I'm still getting started, are they useful? Which one would you recommend of the three?

While Uxia is a specialist, the version that I prefer of her is Impetuous, so I don't think she's too useful as an objective grabber.

The more useful Mul is the Urgan. While the Katyusha is more likely to hit more things in a skirmish game this size it is very rare that you will hit more than one model. The Urgan will hit 3 times with AP ammo as opposed to once with DA ammo for the Katyusha.

In campaign games the 5 point basic Mul becomes worth it as it is a 5 point regular order and baggage.

Also a lot of scenarios specifically say engineer/hacker so FO and Uxia are no good for those

Nerm86 wrote:
The more useful Mul is the Urgan. While the Katyusha is more likely to hit more things in a skirmish game this size it is very rare that you will hit more than one model. The Urgan will hit 3 times with AP ammo as opposed to once with DA ammo for the Katyusha.

In campaign games the 5 point basic Mul becomes worth it as it is a 5 point regular order and baggage.

Also a lot of scenarios specifically say engineer/hacker so FO and Uxia are no good for those

Doesn't Uxia have the "Specialist Troop" skill that allows her to play the role of an Engineer / hacker if needed by scenario rules?

She has that skill yes, i just forget how broad reaching that skill is in terms of what it allows

Specialist troops cant hack, they do what an engineer does but at WIP -3. They cannot do things like block transmission which for example in 101 and 102, only hackers can do

You're right, I assumed Specialist Troops could both play the role of Hacker and Engineer, and after reading the rule again, it seems that they can only do what the Engineer does.

So if I was to expand to 300 points, I have a few questions.

1) Link teams. Is it 1 per army or 1 per orders-pool-thing (the name escapes me, per group of 10)

2) can you split an orders-pool-thing (group of 10) before they hit 10, or are you forced to max out before expanding?

3) Jeez those Muls are pricey

4) This is my 200 point list that I've used with limited success (2 games and 2 wins, although one is a massive fluke), help me flesh it out to 300 with an eye to these missions please? Thankee kindly

Ariadna - Caledonian Highlander Army | 10 models
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Highlander Grey HMG (40|1.5)
Volunteer Chain (6|0)
Volunteer Chain (6|0)
Volunteer Chain (6|0)
Volunteer Lieutenant (8|0)
Volunteer HMG (20|0.5)
S.A.S. CRAP (23|0)
Cateran T2 Sniper (29|1)
Wulver T2 Rifle (37|0)
Uxìa SupInf (25|0)
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200/300 points | 3/6 swc
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Is your group going to do the Spec Ops with 12xp? You can make him an engineer/hacker too.

 CDK wrote:
Is your group going to do the Spec Ops with 12xp? You can make him an engineer/hacker too.

I'm not sure, let's assume no? I can't make it in this week to ask.

That list you posted has a VERY obvious LT. Infact it can only be one model. I would change one of the chain volunteers to a rifle to at least make it a choice of two models.

It is one link team per army not per combat group

As far as expanding I would add some SAS FO so you have more units that can accomplish the mission other than Uxia, who can be unreliable once she becomes frenzied. Also superior infilteration CAN be a little bit hit and miss if you push into the enemy forward zone, I personally suggest you dont try it. The additional SAS can also be used to support Uxia if she does become frenzied.

The lsit actually has 2 potential Lts until the SAS reveal it's self. There is something to be said for having an obvious Lt and a camo marker to make people think the camo marker is the Lt. The only real issue is that the Volunteer HMG has to be used offensively which means you are bringing you Lt along for the ride. People will take shots at it just for the sake that it may be your Lt since you are bringing it up toward the fight.

yeah but that's only 200, I mean what would be good to expand to 300? And Engineer and an Urugyan are one thing I'm thinking of, maybe a grey with a rifle for another Lt option, and what else?

Although you do have a point about the obvious Lt, I'll try to find room to swap one or two of the chain rifles with a rifle Lt, maybe sub the Wulver out for a Grey with rifle so there is more choice.

The Scot Guards are probably coming out soon so that might solve a some problems. At least as far as Lt. and getting up to 300pts.

As it is. I'd change at least on of the volunteers to a rifle just to make ti harder to figure out Lt.

If I was doing Caledonia personally this is the route I would go...

Ariadna - Caledonian Highlander Army | 15 models
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Combat Group #1
Uxìa SupInf (25|0)
S.A.S. FO (28|0)
S.A.S. FO (28|0)
S.A.S. FO (28|0)
S.A.S. CRAP (23|0)
Wallace Lieutenant (38|0)
Highlander Chain (6|0)
Highlander Chain (6|0)
Highlander Chain (6|0)
Highlander Chain (6|0)
Combat Group #2
Dozer Mul Control (18|0)
Traktor Mul Katyusha (18|1)
Cameronian (22|0)
Cameronian (22|0)
Cameronian (22|0)
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296/300 points | 1/6 swc
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