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Simple question, what happened to Valdor after the Heresy. I know he stepped down from from the high lords council after the death of the Emperor. And I once remember reading that he went into the eye of terror with Russ' 13th, but I can no longer find that.
Does anyone have any knowledge of the sort?

Where did you read that Valdor went with 13th company, hunting ?

I honestly have no idea, it's just something that was stuck in my head, nothing to source

I thought he was in with the emperor, guarding the golden throne?

Probably either died at some point in the last 10,000 years and was buried on Terra... or he's chilling with Big E in the presence of the Golden Throne, doing his Custodes thing.

huh.... that's a little dull..... hope his mohawk is still going strong....
with regards to the little information readily available on this guy, do you think the general warhammer public would accept fluff based around him. Something along the lines of him pursuing his own ideas of protecting the emperor, but doing so abroad?

The Custodes never leave Terra, and very rarely the Imperial Palace, I don't think the hard core fans would react well to fluff about him being somewhere else.

Yeah I have to agree, I personally can't see any of the custodes leaving Terra - they act as body guards/a last line of defence for the Big E.

Don't let that stop you however.

I suppose it depends on the situation and if the fluff you create is convincing enough who knows!

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
The Custodes never leave Terra, and very rarely the Imperial Palace, I don't think the hard core fans would react well to fluff about him being somewhere else.

You mean the same hardcore fans who make counts as Custodes armies using the Grey Knights rules and a bunch of non-GW models?

melon-fethers love some custodes kicking ass.

I meant more the hardcore fans of the fluff.

It wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility that he has something of importance to do outside of Terra...

What I was thinking was more in terms of something similar to the US marines, protecting the President and his interests. Acting abroad as a way to further protect the Emperor.
from what i'm getting is that it would be a stretch but not entirely impossible.
I like those odds!

bu5jocky wrote:What I was thinking was more in terms of something similar to the US marines, protecting the President and his interests. Acting abroad as a way to further protect the Emperor.
from what i'm getting is that it would be a stretch but not entirely impossible.
I like those odds!

The Custodes protect the God Emperor like the Secret Service, not the US Marines. They aren't his army; the Imperial Guard, Space Marines, and Sisters of Battle fill that role.

Essentially, they're probably gonna stay on Terra. protecting him as best they can. Because he is a corpse hooked up to a psychic lighthouse, he isn't moving around much, and their job is fairly easy (though the requirements and training are still insane). Until Hive Fleet Leviathan or the 13th Black Crusade reaches Terra, they won't be fighting much.

We can only hope he is dead. Hopefully he died in a very painful, horrible fashion. Or at least is some sorcerer's mental bitch.

Some people don't like Valdor, then?

He's probably my least favorite 40k character period that I can recall.

Really? why the hate? theres barely enough information on him to form an opinion. I just like his haircut

He's a huge douche. Unlike the Space Wolves, who look upon their duty as a burden that must be done, they relish it, and openly pushed for the destruction of the Thousand Sons chapter.

Part of it is osmosis by virtue of him being a Custodian. Custodians suck. They are all condescending douchebags. Amon is the only possible exception.

Actually the Custodes send squads and individuals to serve alongside Marine forces to further their skills

No, they send squads and individuals to serve alongside Marine forces to be judgmental and watch them for deviation from "acceptable behavior".

If he is alive, he is a High Lord of Terra, most likely he is dead.

hrm interesting point about the collective assholery of the custodes.
if he did die, how would he have? it's not like after the siege of terra there has been much combat around the golden throne, and from my limited knowledge, custodes and spacemarines and the like cannot die from old age.

Well I posted my answer, but not many people like speculation about the High Lords. But shall I be forced to speculate he will become the Custodian killed by a gaze by Horus unfortunately.

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Well I posted my answer, but not many people like speculation about the High Lords. But shall I be forced to speculate he will become the Custodian killed by a gaze by Horus unfortunately.

I doubt it would be Valdor considering the reintroduction of Ollanius Pius as "Oll Persson" into the fluff from Know No Fear. Especially with the added context of how he escaped the debacle in the Ultramar system through a warp gate which would presumably lead him to Terra since he also had a premonition/vision of being at the Emperor's final battle with Horus on the Vengeful Spirit.

 bu5jocky wrote:
hrm interesting point about the collective assholery of the custodes.
if he did die, how would he have? it's not like after the siege of terra there has been much combat around the golden throne, and from my limited knowledge, custodes and spacemarines and the like cannot die from old age.

Biological Immortality for SM and the Custodes has yet to be proven. It's a conceptual belief but, like any other form of biology, is impossible to prove.

 Grimskul wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Well I posted my answer, but not many people like speculation about the High Lords. But shall I be forced to speculate he will become the Custodian killed by a gaze by Horus unfortunately.

I doubt it would be Valdor considering the reintroduction of Ollanius Pius as "Oll Persson" into the fluff from Know No Fear. Especially with the added context of how he escaped the debacle in the Ultramar system through a warp gate which would presumably lead him to Terra since he also had a premonition/vision of being at the Emperor's final battle with Horus on the Vengeful Spirit.

??? where's all of that info coming from?

 bu5jocky wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:

 Beaviz81 wrote:
Well I posted my answer, but not many people like speculation about the High Lords. But shall I be forced to speculate he will become the Custodian killed by a gaze by Horus unfortunately.

I doubt it would be Valdor considering the reintroduction of Ollanius Pius as "Oll Persson" into the fluff from Know No Fear. Especially with the added context of how he escaped the debacle in the Ultramar system through a warp gate which would presumably lead him to Terra since he also had a premonition/vision of being at the Emperor's final battle with Horus on the Vengeful Spirit.

??? where's all of that info coming from?

I believe I referred to it already, this stuff should all be covered in the HH book "Know No Fear". The specifics are in the footntotes here in Lexicanum on the topic of Ollanius Pius: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ollanius_Pius#.UZRnwp1zaM8

Oll Persson is from the wayback when I first started playing (2nd Ed), he used to appear as a Saint on Imperial Guard banners where the description was that "He sacrificed himself to save the Emperor during the siege of Terra"

As to it being a Custodian who got flayed by Horus's gaze, in the original story it was an astartes Terminator.

"For a second the Emperor knows only darkness then a flare of agony brings him back to consciousness as Horus rips his arm from its socket. The Warmaster howls with bestial triumph.

Suddenly the battering stops. Through his good eye the Emperor sees a solitary Terminator has entered the room. The Marine charges towards the Warmaster, stormbolter blazing. Horus looks at him and laughs. For a moment he stands triumphant, allowing the Marine to see what he has done to his Emperor.

The Emperor knows what is going to happen next, sees the gloating triumph on Horus' face. There is no trace of his friend left there. There is only a daemon driven by insane destructive fury.

Horus turns his burning gaze on the Terminator and the Marine's flesh flakes away to reveal his skeleton, then even that is gone, reduced to dust.

The Emperor sees the trap that has been set for him. He has been restraining himself, trying not to hurt one who had been as a son to him. Now he sees that there is no trace of his trusted comrade left. He knows that he must stop this semblance of his former friend and avenge the fallen Terminator. He must strike one deadly blow. He will get no other chance.

He gathers every particle of his power, focuses it into a mighty bolt of pure force, more coherent than a laser, more destructive than an exploding sun. He aims it as Horus, a lance of power destined for the madman's heart. Horus senses the upsurge of energy and turns to face the Emperor, a look of horror on his face.

The Emperor lets fly. It strikes the Warmaster. Horus screams as destruction rains down on him, twisting and writhing in titanic agony. He strives frantically to counter the Emperor's deathblow but his struggles become more feeble as the lethal energies play over him.

Driven by all the force of his rage and pain and hatred the Emperor wills Horus's death. He senses the forces of Chaos retreat, disengaging themselves from their pawn. As they do so sanity returns to the Warmaster. The Emperor sees realisation of the atrocities he has committed flicker across Horus' face. Tears glisten there.

Horus is free but the Emperor knows he himself is dying and that the Powers of Chaos may once again possess the Warmaster and he will not be there to stop them. He cannot take that risk. Horus must die. Yet for a second, looking into his old friends face, he hesitates, unable to do the deed. Then he thinks of the slaughter that still goes on outside, may go on forever. Resolve hardens within him.

He forces all mercy and compassion from his mind, empties it of all knowledge of friendship and coimraderie and love. His eyes lock with Horus and see understanding there. Then with full cold knowledge of what he is doing the Emperor destroys the Warmaster.

Rogal Dorn enters the chamber. Horror fills him as he sees the mutilated form of the Emperor and the shrivelled husk inside the Warmaster's armour. He curses himself for taking so long to fight through the Chaotic hordes, He knows now why their attacks ceased and why the ship is reverting to normal.

He rushes to the Emperor's side, detecting the faint pulse of life. Perhaps there is yet hope. Perhaps the ruler of the Imperium may live.

Rogal Dorn will do his best to ensure it. "

http://members.tripod.com/orcrist_game/40k/id3.html

That story has always been dumb as feth, IMHO.

Like, what? Butchering his brother and your son was not enough to convince you that Horus was bad, but killing some random Terminator/Guardsman/Custodian was?

Void Dragon, they do both.

Straw that broke the camels back.

I guess you don't have children Void Dragon, look at the case where the family of those bombers from Boston are proclaiming their son was an "angel"

Empy was holding back. Death of the Terminator lowered the boom for once and for all.

Still you do like WE so..... ;-) :-D