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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 15:16:52
Subject: GW digital codexes
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Does anyone know can you print the digital codex to paper so you don't always need your ipad with you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 15:51:12
Subject: Re:GW digital codexes
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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I don't have an ipad, but if they have the same screen cap that the iphone has you can just screen cap everypage and use a printing app to use your home printer.
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I need to return some video tapes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 21:40:26
Subject: Re:GW digital codexes
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torrent a pdf copy....of a book you already own of course.
to completely sidetrack, this is another example of GW being completely out of touch with their market and not understanding that if they make gaming easier and pretend to really care about the gamers that people would feel inclined to buy more. As a sales manager for years I can tell you every good sales organization knows this as the rule of reciprocity, if you make your customers feel like you're giving them something they feel obligated to buy more from you. Things like not charging $35 for a digital codex but instead maybe $10 or even free since codex sales make a tiny percent of their revenue stream, the miniatures is where the money's at.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 22:02:27
Subject: Re:GW digital codexes
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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inb4 "user was banned for this post"?
I would imagine that any device with a "print screen" command can be used to print just about anything. I am not familiar with the iPad in particular, though if it has that functionality then there should be no reason you can't get the books from screen to paper (assuming the license lets you print them).
I got all excited when I saw digital books would be available, if only GW hadn't made them iPad only...
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BrianDavion wrote:Between the two of us... I think GW is assuming we the players are not complete idiots.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 22:08:37
Subject: Re:GW digital codexes
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dementedwombat wrote:inb4 "user was banned for this post"?
I would imagine that any device with a "print screen" command can be used to print just about anything. I am not familiar with the iPad in particular, though if it has that functionality then there should be no reason you can't get the books from screen to paper (assuming the license lets you print them).
I got all excited when I saw digital books would be available, if only GW hadn't made them iPad only...
They made them ipad only to make it difficult to print or share. And what's wrong with torrenting a pdf of a book that you paid $35-$50 for?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 22:09:08
Subject: GW digital codexes
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Ian Pickstock
Nottingham
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Legally are you allowed to print it? Do you actually own the pdf or do you just have the rights to access it? Automatically Appended Next Post: Danny slag wrote: dementedwombat wrote:inb4 "user was banned for this post"?
I would imagine that any device with a "print screen" command can be used to print just about anything. I am not familiar with the iPad in particular, though if it has that functionality then there should be no reason you can't get the books from screen to paper (assuming the license lets you print them).
I got all excited when I saw digital books would be available, if only GW hadn't made them iPad only...
The fact that it's still illegal  and as such can't be discussed on dakka
They made them ipad only to make it difficult to print or share. And what's wrong with torrenting a pdf of a book that you paid $35-$50 for?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 22:11:45
Subject: Re:GW digital codexes
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Danny slag wrote: dementedwombat wrote:inb4 "user was banned for this post"?
I would imagine that any device with a "print screen" command can be used to print just about anything. I am not familiar with the iPad in particular, though if it has that functionality then there should be no reason you can't get the books from screen to paper (assuming the license lets you print them).
I got all excited when I saw digital books would be available, if only GW hadn't made them iPad only...
They made them ipad only to make it difficult to print or share. And what's wrong with torrenting a pdf of a book that you paid $35-$50 for?
I personally don't think anything is wrong with it. That said I doubt it is strictly legal by letter of the law, even if it does make sense from a "common sense" perspective. I'm not really familiar enough with dakkadakka to know how it comes down on suggestions to pirate things. This seems like a reasonably laid back place, but I know some forums that will ban you if you use the word "torrent" because they don't want to deal with potential legal issues.
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BrianDavion wrote:Between the two of us... I think GW is assuming we the players are not complete idiots.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 22:26:09
Subject: Re:GW digital codexes
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dementedwombat wrote:Danny slag wrote: dementedwombat wrote:inb4 "user was banned for this post"?
I would imagine that any device with a "print screen" command can be used to print just about anything. I am not familiar with the iPad in particular, though if it has that functionality then there should be no reason you can't get the books from screen to paper (assuming the license lets you print them).
I got all excited when I saw digital books would be available, if only GW hadn't made them iPad only...
They made them ipad only to make it difficult to print or share. And what's wrong with torrenting a pdf of a book that you paid $35-$50 for?
I personally don't think anything is wrong with it. That said I doubt it is strictly legal by letter of the law, even if it does make sense from a "common sense" perspective. I'm not really familiar enough with dakkadakka to know how it comes down on suggestions to pirate things. This seems like a reasonably laid back place, but I know some forums that will ban you if you use the word "torrent" because they don't want to deal with potential legal issues.
I got you, and yeah it may be better to just avoid it altogether because it's a touchy subject some places, with good reason. I just know under certain fair use regulations that if you own a specific product it's perfectly legal to torrent a copy of it, this applies to physical books, music and even some movies because in essence it's the same thing as ripping your cd to an mp3 which you have full legal rights to do. Although torrents are associated with piracy because that is it's biggest use, torrent itself isn't illegal because it's just a form of data transmission, it's the laws about what you're actually torrenting that are important. So really it comes down to what you're actually buying and what the license says when you pay for the digital codexes as to whether it would be legal or illegal.... But that's probably a huge nut to crack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 22:29:29
Subject: GW digital codexes
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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Forgive me, but surely it's easier to carry an iPad than a codex? Why not just bring the tablet? If you don't want to bring an iPad to games, buy the paper codex instead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 22:43:15
Subject: GW digital codexes
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Sir Samuel Buca wrote:Forgive me, but surely it's easier to carry an iPad than a codex? Why not just bring the tablet? If you don't want to bring an iPad to games, buy the paper codex instead.
Because most iPads are generally in the $500< category & as such not an item people are willing to risk damage or theft @ the store/in transit.
Which you sum up succinctly by mention of purchasing the book.
It says volumes what GW thinks of their customer base when they introduce a digital format for their codeci (great idea!), then restrict it to the most expensive tablet on the market (horrible idea!), THEN charge you $30 for it (worst idea ever!).
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Sometimes, the only truth people understand, comes from the barrel of a gun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 00:15:02
Subject: Re:GW digital codexes
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Danny slag wrote:Things like not charging $35 for a digital codex but instead maybe $10 or even free since codex sales make a tiny percent of their revenue stream, the miniatures is where the money's at.
This makes a lot of sense to me. Reduce the cost to buy a codex in digital format. Another option would be to sell the printed codex and allow for a "free" digital copy with purchase in some way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 00:19:14
Subject: Re:GW digital codexes
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Making Stuff
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Danny slag wrote:I just know under certain fair use regulations that if you own a specific product it's perfectly legal to torrent a copy of it, this applies to physical books, music and even some movies because in essence it's the same thing as ripping your cd to an mp3 which you have full legal rights to do
Except it's not.
Being legal to make backup copies of mateial you own is not the same as downloading a copyright infringing copy. It probably should be, since ultimately the end result is the same... but the law still has some catching up to do to deal with the digital age properly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 01:34:55
Subject: GW digital codexes
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Ian Pickstock
Nottingham
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I don't see how a fragile expensive computer is easier than shoving a codex into a backpack that I'd be carrying anyway. Add to that the difficulty of quickly scrolling through and I really don't see why anyone would opt for an iPad version.
having said that, a lite version with rules and point costs, that I could get on my android phone, and I'd.happily pay for such a product,.maybe up to about £5. They.could have an army builder app that integrated with the codexes to help you quickly build a list. One can dream
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 01:56:58
Subject: Re:GW digital codexes
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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dementedwombat wrote:inb4 "user was banned for this post"?
I would imagine that any device with a "print screen" command can be used to print just about anything. I am not familiar with the iPad in particular, though if it has that functionality then there should be no reason you can't get the books from screen to paper (assuming the license lets you print them).
I got all excited when I saw digital books would be available, if only GW hadn't made them iPad only...
Why would I get banned? The iPad is family property I can't have it with me all the time, my wife and kid get to use it also. I am just wondering if I buy a digital codex can I print it (it is water marked with your name) so I can have it with me in my bag if the iPad is not available. Automatically Appended Next Post: BryllCream wrote:Legally are you allowed to print it? Do you actually own the pdf or do you just have the rights to access it?
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Danny slag wrote: dementedwombat wrote:inb4 "user was banned for this post"?
I would imagine that any device with a "print screen" command can be used to print just about anything. I am not familiar with the iPad in particular, though if it has that functionality then there should be no reason you can't get the books from screen to paper (assuming the license lets you print them).
I got all excited when I saw digital books would be available, if only GW hadn't made them iPad only...
The fact that it's still illegal  and as such can't be discussed on dakka
They made them ipad only to make it difficult to print or share. And what's wrong with torrenting a pdf of a book that you paid $35-$50 for?
This is a DRM question, legally yes, but legally they are not required to allow you to print it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 01:58:31
Subject: Re:GW digital codexes
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Norn Queen
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tgf wrote: dementedwombat wrote:inb4 "user was banned for this post"?
I would imagine that any device with a "print screen" command can be used to print just about anything. I am not familiar with the iPad in particular, though if it has that functionality then there should be no reason you can't get the books from screen to paper (assuming the license lets you print them).
I got all excited when I saw digital books would be available, if only GW hadn't made them iPad only...
Why would I get banned? The iPad is family property I can't have it with me all the time, my wife and kid get to use it also. I am just wondering if I buy a digital codex can I print it (it is water marked with your name) so I can have it with me in my bag if the iPad is not available.
He was talking about the person telling you to torrent a pdf, I assume, discussion of which is verboten on Dakka.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 02:01:26
Subject: Re:GW digital codexes
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The new eldar Iandyain codex is going to be digital only, so its not as simple as buying the physical book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 02:08:16
Subject: GW digital codexes
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Ian Pickstock
Nottingham
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Proof that it's digital only? I know that there's a shot of it on a page of digital products, but it doesn't mention being e-book only. Unless you assume everything in that section is e-book only, in which case so is the Eldar codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 03:18:02
Subject: Re:GW digital codexes
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Norn Queen
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tgf wrote:The new eldar Iandyain codex is going to be digital only, so its not as simple as buying the physical book.
Evidence?
It was shown on the digital product page. but so was the Eldar codex.
Are you confirming this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 11:43:09
Subject: GW digital codexes
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's one of the two rumors floating around, its probably about as reliable as fieat hes about 50/50 on his rumors. The other rumor is its direct GW only, stores won't have it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 12:51:01
Subject: GW digital codexes
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Executing Exarch
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Huh, so you can just screen shot the 20 important pictures and just share it? Very interesting.
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/22 12:57:37
Subject: Re:GW digital codexes
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The iPad is family property I can't have it with me all the time, my wife and kid get to use it also. I am just wondering if I buy a digital codex can I print it (it is water marked with your name) so I can have it with me in my bag if the iPad is not available.
Imo against friends it doesnt matter , the problem would be games against strangers. For someone you dont know there is no difference between you having a pirated copy and having a copy of legaly owned digital codex. There are also country differences in law . For example here you can have with you not more then 8 pages of copied material. The law was made because students weren't buying books for school and just printing them in libraries , which of course was much cheaper then buying the actual books.
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