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 warboss wrote:

 cerbrus2 wrote:

For the most part people are going to have some for of Internet available to them. Heck i can turn my phone into a wireless network hub for 5 devices, and share my 4g. Nothing stopping you hooking up the xbox to your phone for a quick DRM check.

The arguments. for " what about people in countrys without internet" If they don't even have internet in there country they most probably don't even know what an xbox is anyway.

It is a quick check for the most part anybody buying a £400 Xbone is going to have a stable internet connection, trouble with your internet? go outside and do something.

i am not a fan of Xbox, but some of the reasons for hating it are stupid.

Be a good fellow and mail me your phone then for free because the US phone plan and phone I use can't do that. As for "countrys without internet", don't be obtuse. I just gave a normal and common first world example of not being able to play your games because of a few hours weather related outage simply because of the ridiculous 24 hour DRM check. If it's rained enough that my internet goes out, what should I exactly go do outside? LARP the singing in the rain dance number? The reasons people don't like the choices microsoft are making with the xbone are not stupid but rather rooted in consumer rights that microsoft is unilaterally taking away with no recompense.

Mail?

Is this the dark ages?

 pities2004 wrote:


Mail?

Is this the dark ages?

If there is a way for the british to teleport the phone to my US location, he should feel free to utilize it. Otherwise, regular royal mail will suffice for him to prove his point. I'm quite flexible that way.

 pities2004 wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 cerbrus2 wrote:

For the most part people are going to have some for of Internet available to them. Heck i can turn my phone into a wireless network hub for 5 devices, and share my 4g. Nothing stopping you hooking up the xbox to your phone for a quick DRM check.

The arguments. for " what about people in countrys without internet" If they don't even have internet in there country they most probably don't even know what an xbox is anyway.

It is a quick check for the most part anybody buying a £400 Xbone is going to have a stable internet connection, trouble with your internet? go outside and do something.

i am not a fan of Xbox, but some of the reasons for hating it are stupid.

Be a good fellow and mail me your phone then for free because the US phone plan and phone I use can't do that. As for "countrys without internet", don't be obtuse. I just gave a normal and common first world example of not being able to play your games because of a few hours weather related outage simply because of the ridiculous 24 hour DRM check. If it's rained enough that my internet goes out, what should I exactly go do outside? LARP the singing in the rain dance number? The reasons people don't like the choices microsoft are making with the xbone are not stupid but rather rooted in consumer rights that microsoft is unilaterally taking away with no recompense.

Mail?

Is this the dark ages?

Warboss.. I don't think you understand how the 24 hour check works. It checks once every 24 hours, not every second. Having an outage for a couple of hours would not effect that at all, because... you know.. you have 24 hours.

 Soladrin wrote:

Warboss.. I don't think you understand how the 24 hour check works. It checks once every 24 hours, not every second. Having an outage for a couple of hours would not effect that at all, because... you know.. you have 24 hours.

I don't think you understand how it works. Please check my completely normal example posted last page for how an outage of a few hours can disable your xbone.

How will that outage affect online-only-drm-games on the ps4? Is there really a difference?

 warboss wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:

Warboss.. I don't think you understand how the 24 hour check works. It checks once every 24 hours, not every second. Having an outage for a couple of hours would not effect that at all, because... you know.. you have 24 hours.

I don't think you understand how it works. Please check my completely normal example posted last page for how an outage of a few hours can disable your xbone.

I dont think you understand how to understand what it is to understand

I've never been offline with my Ps3 or my Xbox, so maybe I am just lucky

 pities2004 wrote:
A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, the xbox 360 and PS3 were coming out, people took sides and said Xbox is better, NO PS3 is better.

None of that mattered as both systems were successful to this present day.

Buy which one you want better and leave it at that,

Personally i'm buying both because I can

Before the xbox 360 and PS3 launched it was super annoying when the fan boys took to eachothers throats.


It's a freaking gaming console get over it.

The 1% has spoken!
NOW BEGONE WITH YOUR GRIPES ABOUT CONSUMER RIGHTS PEASANT! *clap* *clap*

 Boggy Man wrote:

 pities2004 wrote:
A long time ago in a galaxy far far away, the xbox 360 and PS3 were coming out, people took sides and said Xbox is better, NO PS3 is better.

None of that mattered as both systems were successful to this present day.

Buy which one you want better and leave it at that,

Personally i'm buying both because I can

Before the xbox 360 and PS3 launched it was super annoying when the fan boys took to eachothers throats.


It's a freaking gaming console get over it.

The 1% has spoken!
NOW BEGONE WITH YOUR GRIPES ABOUT CONSUMER RIGHTS PEASANT! *clap* *clap*

What are these rights you speak of?

 pities2004 wrote:


I've never been offline with my Ps3 or my Xbox, so maybe I am just lucky

I can recall at least a dozen times over the past 6 years that xbox live itself wasn't working through no fault of my own or my local internet provider.. with one or two outages lasting several days. As for the PS3, the online service was unavailable for over a month after it was hacked. You're either incredibly lucky, naive, only game during leap years, or lying.

 warboss wrote:

 pities2004 wrote:


I've never been offline with my Ps3 or my Xbox, so maybe I am just lucky

I can recall at least a dozen times over the past 6 years that xbox live itself wasn't working through no fault of my own or my local internet provider.. with one or two outages lasting several days. As for the PS3, the online service was unavailable for over a month after it was hacked. You're either incredibly lucky, naive, only game during leap years, or lying.

You're either incredibly short sighted or raging, I did not mention once that I was on every day did I?

Let's get this back on track.

 pities2004 wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 pities2004 wrote:


I've never been offline with my Ps3 or my Xbox, so maybe I am just lucky

I can recall at least a dozen times over the past 6 years that xbox live itself wasn't working through no fault of my own or my local internet provider.. with one or two outages lasting several days. As for the PS3, the online service was unavailable for over a month after it was hacked. You're either incredibly lucky, naive, only game during leap years, or lying.

You're either incredibly short sighted or raging, I did not mention once that I was on every day did I?

Let's get this back on track.

Did you miss the part about the PS3 being offline for over a month? That's not "every day". You posted an incredibly unlikely counterpoint of never being offline with either console to the issue of 24 hour DRM checks so I addressed it since my experience is that the service *will* inevitably be unavailable globally multiple times per year during the lifecycle of the console and locally (due to weather, outages, etc) many more times than that in addition. If anything is short sighted, it's using your example of apparently not using your PS3 for months at a time yet being always online as an example of why the 24hr DRM check is no big deal. In the end, despite what it may seem, I'm not raging but probably more accurately whining. I'm disappointed by what I see as boneheaded and arrogant decisions on the part of MS that take their playerbase for granted (much like sony did to their detriment in the buildup and first few years of the PS3). I discussed it with about a dozen friends over xbox live this week (all of whom are long time 360 players) and only a single one is interested in getting an xbone. A few have said that they're currently much more interested in the PS4 at the moment whereas others are existing PC gamers who will just switch exclusively to that platform instead. The only guy who said he's interested in buying the xbone is the gamer who buys *every* console every generation. While anecdotal, that's hardly a good precedent and frankly it seems to be a sentiment expressed across the internet currently.

 warboss wrote:

 pities2004 wrote:

 warboss wrote:

 pities2004 wrote:


I've never been offline with my Ps3 or my Xbox, so maybe I am just lucky

I can recall at least a dozen times over the past 6 years that xbox live itself wasn't working through no fault of my own or my local internet provider.. with one or two outages lasting several days. As for the PS3, the online service was unavailable for over a month after it was hacked. You're either incredibly lucky, naive, only game during leap years, or lying.

You're either incredibly short sighted or raging, I did not mention once that I was on every day did I?

Let's get this back on track.

Did you miss the part about the PS3 being offline for over a month? That's not "every day". You posted an incredibly unlikely counterpoint of never being offline with either console to the issue of 24 hour DRM checks so I addressed it since my experience is that the service *will* inevitably be unavailable globally multiple times per year during the lifecycle of the console and locally (due to weather, outages, etc) many more times than that in addition. If anything is short sighted, it's using your example of apparently not using your PS3 for months at a time yet being always online as an example of why the 24hr DRM check is no big deal. In the end, despite what it may seem, I'm not raging but probably more accurately whining. I'm disappointed by what I see as boneheaded and arrogant decisions on the part of MS that take their playerbase for granted (much like sony did to their detriment in the buildup and first few years of the PS3). I discussed it with about a dozen friends over xbox live this week (all of whom are long time 360 players) and only a single one is interested in getting an xbone. A few have said that they're currently much more interested in the PS4 at the moment whereas others are existing PC gamers who will just switch exclusively to that platform instead. The only guy who said he's interested in buying the xbone is the gamer who buys *every* console every generation. While anecdotal, that's hardly a good precedent and frankly it seems to be a sentiment expressed across the internet currently.

I have a very good internet provider so none of this bothers me.

It's not like Microsoft is saying "if you do not turn on your console every 24 hours it will explode" You don't have to use it every day.

This whole thread has turned into the Xbox *Xbone* hate thread, while the Ps4 thread is perfectly fine.

Why not take this show else where?

 pities2004 wrote:

This whole thread has turned into the Xbox *Xbone* hate thread, while the Ps4 thread is perfectly fine.

Why not take this show else where?

The place to discuss issues with the xbone is precisely in the xbone thread and not the PS4 thread despite your disagreement with the sentiments posted. If you'd like to only read positive responses to the xbone announcements, I'd suggest you subscribe to the offical xbone twitter feed instead of following the thread here.

 pities2004 wrote:



It's a freaking gaming console get over it.

Microsoft disagrees with you.

 warboss wrote:

 pities2004 wrote:

This whole thread has turned into the Xbox *Xbone* hate thread, while the Ps4 thread is perfectly fine.

Why not take this show else where?

The place to discuss issues with the xbone is precisely in the xbone thread and not the PS4 thread despite your disagreement with the sentiments posted. If you'd like to only read positive responses to the xbone announcements, I'd suggest you subscribe to the offical xbone twitter feed instead of following the thread here.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Rule one folks, lets not start losing it over which console is best please, leave that to dedicated fanboy boards if you will. Dislike, anger direct at the companies for decision making etc is fine, taking pot shots at one another because you prefer console a over console b is not!

I understand the Console Wars are Serious Business, but...

Rule #1 and all that.

It might be time to take a deep breath, look around, go for a walk, etc. etc.

In other words - stay calm, on topic and polite in here, and address the issues, and not attack the user.

Thanks!

 Sigvatr wrote:

 pities2004 wrote:



It's a freaking gaming console get over it.

Microsoft disagrees with you.

Win

 pities2004 wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 pities2004 wrote:



It's a freaking gaming console get over it.

Microsoft disagrees with you.

Win

Just to make clear: I don't want to look all smarty-pants here with a snarky comment, I just want to make clear that Microsoft does not market the XBone as a gaming, but as a "multimedia" console.

 Alpharius wrote:
I understand the Console Wars are Serious Business, but...

Rule #1 and all that.

It might be time to take a deep breath, look around, go for a walk, etc. etc.

In other words - stay calm, on topic and polite in here, and address the issues, and not attack the user.

Thanks!

Thank you for confirming that addressing the issues with the xbone is on topic for the thread as long as it complies with Rule #1.

 warboss wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I understand the Console Wars are Serious Business, but...

Rule #1 and all that.

It might be time to take a deep breath, look around, go for a walk, etc. etc.

In other words - stay calm, on topic and polite in here, and address the issues, and not attack the user.

Thanks!

Thank you for confirming that addressing the issues with the xbone is on topic for the thread as long as it complies with Rule #1.

See Warboss, now we can be friends

Are you guys really arguing about something there is very little info on?

 daedalus-templarius wrote:
Are you guys really arguing about something there is very little info on?

I'm good, i'm excited for both systems.

So, here's a list of confirmed games for the Xbox One so far:
Exclusives (Xbox One only)
Below (Roguelike Dungeon explorer)
Crimson Dragon (Rail Shooter)
Dead Rising 3 (Open-World Zombie Survival)
D4 (Murder Mystery)
Fantasia: Music Evolved (Rythm Game)
Forza Motorsport 5 (Racing)
Halo (Probably Halo 5, though might be an alternate in the franchise - FPS)
Killer Instinct (Old school stage Fighting)
Kinect Sports Rivals (Sports-Based minigame collection)
LocoCycle (Racing)
Minecraft: Xbox One Edition (Minecraft. Again.)
Quantum Break (Murder Mystery Action RPG with a TV tie in?)
Ryse: Son of Rome (Tactical Hack & Slash)
Sunset Overdrive (Shooter on Acid)
Zoo Tycoon (Business Simulator)

And the rest (Will be available in another format, be it PC, PS4 or WiiU)
Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag (Stealth Action-Adventure)
Battlefield 4 (FPS)
Call of Duty: Ghosts (FPS)
Carmageddon: Reincarnation (Vehicle Combat)
The Crew (Racing)
Cyberpunk 2077 (RPG)
Destiny (Action RPG)
Diablo 3 (RPG)
Dragon Age: Inquisition (RPG)
Dying Light (Zombie Survival Horror)
The Elder Scrolls Online (RPG/MMO)
The Evil Within (Survival Horror)
FIFA 14 (Racing)
Final Fantasy 15 (RPG)
Just Dance 2014 (Dance game)
Kingdom Hearts 3 (RPG)
Madden NFL 25 (Sport)
Mad Max (Action Adventure Shooter with Vehicle Combat and RPG elements)
Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain (Stealth Action Adventure)
Mirror's Edge 2 (Action Adventure Platformer)
NBA 2K14 (Sport)
NBA Live 14 (Sport)
Need for Speed: Rivals (Racing)
Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare (Third Person Shooter + Tower Defence)
Project Spark ('Game Maker')
Skylanders: Swap Force (Platform)
Sniper Elite 3 (Tactical Shooter)
Thief (4) (Stealth)
Titanfall (FPS)
Tom Clancy's The Division (MMO-Action RPG Shooter)
Trials Fusion (Racing)
UFC (Fighting)
Watch Dogs (Action-Adventure, Stealth)
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (Action-RPG, Hack And Slash)
Wolfenstein: The New Order (FPS)
Zumba Fitness: World Party (Fitness)

I thought BELOW actually looked really cool... might actually be picking that up!

HALO 5 HNNNGGGGHHH

 daedalus-templarius wrote:
Are you guys really arguing about something there is very little info on?

There is enough.

Honest question: why are people or rather certain people so manic about Halo 5? I played all Halos except of Halo 4 and they all felt like your everyday shooter with a few cutscenes slapped on.

CoD gets a lot of hate for it being virtually the same in every iteration and I don't see why Halo is, according to its fans, so much different.

It's fun man. They say their is no accounting for taste. People like different things.

As I said above: I don't want to say whether it was a good or bad game. I had fun playing the games. I just do not see why Halo gets praised whereas CoD gets looked down upon.

 Sigvatr wrote:
As I said above: I don't want to say whether it was a good or bad game. I had fun playing the games. I just do not see why Halo gets praised whereas CoD gets looked down upon.

Its the internet.

There are plenty of people who love both. Don't get so caught up in one group 'looking down' on some game.

I think COD is fine, but I'm not crazy about it.

I'm going to imagine that for a lot of console gamers, Halo was their first FPS.