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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303
It seems that a solider was killed by 2 men in Woolwich in a machette attack. According to BBC News 24 the attackers first ran him over, then they attacked him with machettes and then got into a gun fight with police who incapacitated both of them.

As yet there is no motive for the attack but the victim was supposed to be wearing a Help For Heroes T shirt.

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That's horrible.

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It looks like that this was related to terrorism.

A couple of years ago there was a plot to behead a muslim soldier but it was stopped by the security services, maybe this was something similar.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10074029/Shootings-and-machete-attack-in-south-east-London-live.html

Absolutely disgusted, serving soldiers murdered in the street.
   
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Well that sucks.

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Looking at the live text feed they're saying it was 2 black Muslims attacking a white soldier, while scaring off witnesses. Multiple reports say they shouted "Allahu Akbar", fethed the soldier up like animals, dragged his body into the street, and then attacked the cops when they showed up. This is all up for debate because its not an official police source, but I'd give it decent credibility with what we know of Islamic extremists.

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This starts happening over here I'm applying for a C&C license

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 Jihadin wrote:
Chwast......

This starts happening over here I'm applying for a C&C license


One Maj. Nidal Hasan...

Unfortunatly, CC permits mean squat on military bases. I don't get that...

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That was classed as workplace violence, not a terrorist attack, for some reason

As for the story my thoughts and prayers go to the soldier's family. You expect a member of the armed forces to be most at risk when deployed, not walking down the street.

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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
That was classed as workplace violence, not a terrorist attack, for some reason

As for the story my thoughts and prayers go to the soldier's family. You expect a member of the armed forces to be most at risk when deployed, not walking down the street.


It had something to do with the way the trial is being worked. All of the victims are pretty much denied a Purple Heart because of that as well, which sucks, but I guess if it keeps the guy from walking...

And that is also why I hate hearing stories like these. We face enough risks in our job. We shouldn't have to worry about getting machete'd while walking down the street...

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What a horrible story.

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 djones520 wrote:


Unfortunatly, CC permits mean squat on military bases. I don't get that...


CC permits are issued by the state but a base is Federal property.

   
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That arsehat Hasan. That was a serious breakdown in communication between dept's before he went off on the deep end. He's getting life. To execute him is to make him a martyr. I was mainly refering to civilians attacking military....hhmmmm...better description probaly everyday ordinary people with a vendatta against military vets...not sure I would label this a terrorist attack though. Has a group claim responsibility for it?

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 LordofHats wrote:
 djones520 wrote:


Unfortunatly, CC permits mean squat on military bases. I don't get that...


CC permits are issued by the state but a base is Federal property.


I understand the legality of it, I don't understand the justification.

We are members of the ARMED FORCES. But we're not allowed to be armed...

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 Jihadin wrote:
That arsehat Hasan. That was a serious breakdown in communication between dept's before he went off on the deep end. He's getting life. To execute him is to make him a martyr. I was mainly refering to civilians attacking military....hhmmmm...better description probaly everyday ordinary people with a vendatta against military vets...not sure I would label this a terrorist attack though. Has a group claim responsibility for it?


There was a recruiter here who was stabbed a few years ago. I remember in Seattle a soldier was mugged (possibly killed) just outside of Ft. Lewis a number of years ago as well. There are instances in the US where we are specifically targetted, but I don't know if outside of the Hasan incident, there has been a militant islamist attack thats succesfully gone off.

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Not yet, they seem to think it might be lone wolves from the BBC program I'm watching on it at the moment. An Emergency meeting of COBRA has just started being led by the Home Secretary. No doubt Islamic militants will be coming out of the woodwork soon, spouting please don't circumvent the language filter. Reds8n

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The CCW talk is getting a bit off topic, gents. We have enough CCW threads, I think.

Since this was an attack on a soldier, how will they be treated in the courts over there or will that have any impact on procedures?

If found guilty, will they be seeing life in prison?

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There was no breakdown. That was PC.

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 uk_crow wrote:
Not yet, they seem to think it might be lone wolves from the BBC program I'm watching on it at the moment. An Emergency meeting of COBRA has just started being led by the Home Secretary.


Wait wait wait wait wait.

You guys are working with COBRA?!

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Wait wait wait wait wait.

You guys are working with COBRA?!

It means Cabinet Office Briefing Room A. The acronym is cooler

 
   
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kronk wrote:The CCW talk is getting a bit off topic, gents. We have enough CCW threads, I think.

Since this was an attack on a soldier, how will they be treated in the courts over there or will that have any impact on procedures?

If found guilty, will they be seeing life in prison?


Not too sure, the public will be calling for the harshest possible sentence rightfully. Also because it is a terror attack i think there are special clauses such as holding without charging them for more than usual.

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 uk_crow wrote:
Not yet, they seem to think it might be lone wolves from the BBC program I'm watching on it at the moment. An Emergency meeting of COBRA has just started being led by the Home Secretary. .


Wait wait wait wait wait.

You guys are working with COBRA?!


Heh, unfortunately not. It's an emergency meeting of government when an unexpected event happens.

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You guys had better have DOZENs of jokes about this. I'm expecting comedy gold here XD

   
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 uk_crow wrote:

Since this was an attack on a soldier, how will they be treated in the courts over there or will that have any impact on procedures?


None whatsoever. If it is a terrorist attack though that will have harsher sentencing.

The PM is going to give a brief at 2000 so doubtless more will come out then.

CC has nothing to do with this, at all. The UK public has absolutely no interest in it so its utterly pointless discussing it.

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 Palindrome wrote:


CC has nothing to do with this, at all. The UK public has absolutely no interest in it so its utterly pointless discussing it.


CC, what's this?

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 uk_crow wrote:
 Palindrome wrote:


CC has nothing to do with this, at all. The UK public has absolutely no interest in it so its utterly pointless discussing it.


CC, what's this?

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Basically a permit that allows you to conceal a firearm on your person.

   
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According to the PM this is almost certainly a terrorist attack.

A video has also surfaced showing a black man with a London accent covered in blood and brandishing a blood stained cleaver gibbering about bringing down the government so it may not be a jihadist attack.

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Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329089/Woolwich-attack-Two-men-hack-soldier-wearing-Help-Heroes-T-shirt-death-machetes-suspected-terror-attack.html

Short clip of video



   
 
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