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 Jihadin wrote:
Besides if they tried that here in the USA with all our gun owners...you think they pose there for pics and salutations? Just be two more body bags to fill. Me personnaly...I knee cap the Hell out of them

 Jihadin wrote:
Boston Marathon Bomber eh

You would not have ten plus so many people standing around here in the US watching a soldier get opted out. Be a few that would Iphone it but I'm sure quite a few Americans would
1. Opted out both with gunfire (I go knee caps; less paperwork)
2. Dumptruck load of people have bats....crowbars...nice length of steel pipe....

Glad we've got the internets tough guy to tell us how he'd have knee capped them and saved the day, and himself the paperwork. Phew, good job stuff like this doesn't happen in the US.

Only dragon glass works on terrorists.

Treesong. Done four deployments. Since this is the internet I might be lying

Doesn't matter, I still find your comments risible.

 Jihadin wrote:
Treesong. Done four deployments. Since this is the internet I might be lying

Since this is the internet, it doesn't particularly matter, here you're no way better than anyone else.

Ah the interweb, where Gods and men dwell as equals, where opinions mean nothing, and where countless flame war are raged on a daily basis. It's a wonderful thing.

SO either laughter, effective or useful?

Can some one explain to me a couple of things,

1 If they hate us and our country so much why do they insist on living here.

2 Why don't they go back to there homelands and fight the invading forces.

I just don't get it I am sorry but I find it harder and harder to except any of this .

 lone dirty dog wrote:
Can some one explain to me a couple of things,

1 If they hate us and our country so much why do they insist on living here.

2 Why don't they go back to there homelands and fight the invading forces.

I just don't get it I am sorry but I find it harder and harder to except any of this .

They can't take over conventionally, so they want to do it from the inside.

 djones520 wrote:

 lone dirty dog wrote:
Can some one explain to me a couple of things,

1 If they hate us and our country so much why do they insist on living here.

2 Why don't they go back to there homelands and fight the invading forces.

I just don't get it I am sorry but I find it harder and harder to except any of this .

They can't take over conventionally, so they want to do it from the inside.

This is not from the inside this is just plain murder, don't get me wrong there is never a winner in war.

These so called people are living among us claiming to be ordinary folk, then acting in cowardly ways and attacking the innocent.

This is a sick world we are living in I have to say, I wish our government would bring our troops home then they could protect our borders from lunatics like these.

Hang on a sec... did I read that right? It took 20 minutes for the police to arrive?

o.O

 Breotan wrote:
Hang on a sec... did I read that right? It took 20 minutes for the police to arrive?

o.O

Thats quick most of the time you just get a crime number over the phone.

 djones520 wrote:

 lone dirty dog wrote:
Can some one explain to me a couple of things,

1 If they hate us and our country so much why do they insist on living here.

2 Why don't they go back to there homelands and fight the invading forces.

I just don't get it I am sorry but I find it harder and harder to except any of this .

They can't take over conventionally, so they want to do it from the inside.

^^^ This. That's why it's a terrorist attack. It's more than just killing those soldiers like that... it's the fact that it can be done within the UK right outside of the base.

I think it's time to re-incarnate General Black Jack Pershing.

My cuz, who's just back from Afghanistan and was previously a prison guard, thinks these two are prison converts to Islam and were radicalized inside prison, he says there are Islamic kingpins operating inside the major UK prisons who convert young black prisoners to the cause and brainwash them on the inside.

It would certainly explain the accents and the 'our lands' refers to the already muslim nations.






Seriously, feth this religion.

 lone dirty dog wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 lone dirty dog wrote:
Can some one explain to me a couple of things,

1 If they hate us and our country so much why do they insist on living here.

2 Why don't they go back to there homelands and fight the invading forces.

I just don't get it I am sorry but I find it harder and harder to except any of this .

They can't take over conventionally, so they want to do it from the inside.

This is not from the inside this is just plain murder, don't get me wrong there is never a winner in war.

These so called people are living among us claiming to be ordinary folk, then acting in cowardly ways and attacking the innocent.

This is a sick world we are living in I have to say, I wish our government would bring our troops home then they could protect our borders from lunatics like these.

The Islamic immigrant population has almost doubled in the last 10 years in the UK. In that time there has been a marked increase of hate crimes commited by said population. The populations are trying to "shariah" the population centers they move into. And if you think I'm wrong, look at how homophobic crimes have risen 80% over the last 5 years in areas with heavy populations of immigrants.

Stuff like that has been happening in a lot of places. Why do you think France has cracked down so hard on it? Even in the US we've been seeing things like this with strong pushes in places like Minnesota to get Shariah Law to become a legal thing.

 Jihadin wrote:
Treesong. Done four deployments. Since this is the internet I might be lying

I would like to thank you for your service.

But also like to point out that if we all had guns in the UK, the radicalized islamics would all have guns, and we might well be looking at hundreds dead today instead of one poor bastard.


These two fethers were shot up with hollow point, so, fingers crossed, the death sentence may yet be carried out.

Yes and our government knows this and what do they do about it ………………………………… sweet FA

 lone dirty dog wrote:
Yes and our government knows this and what do they do about it ………………………………… sweet FA

I was reading a story that police were accused of trying to cover up crimes committed... it seems like your government is trying to do nothing about it.

This is what it looks like to me as an outsider, I'd be really curious to hear how you guys feel about it.

 djones520 wrote:

 lone dirty dog wrote:
Yes and our government knows this and what do they do about it ………………………………… sweet FA

I was reading a story that police were accused of trying to cover up crimes committed... it seems like your government is trying to do nothing about it.

This is what it looks like to me as an outsider, I'd be really curious to hear how you guys feel about it.

To be honest our government is completely out of touch with its people, I was reading only a few weeks ago that the military now has in place a procedure for civil unrest / revolution or uprising.

I think that explains pretty much what the feeling is if they have that in place, I can honestly say I have no love for my country or the people elected to run it.

They are leaving us to the fate of others and are more concerned about what the courts of the EU think or demand.

the guy bloody handedly states

"I am sorry that the women had to witness this, but in our country the women witness this every day. Then something anti government."

watch the video here your self http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/22/world/europe/uk-london-attack/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

and yes cops are many minutes away with all those people standing around, no one with any ability to comprehend that yes, it can happen to you, or someone near you, and yes you might be all that stands between a stranger, or yourself, or a loved one dying.

its not being an internet tough guy to suggest the very real situation of someone in the states with cww actually stopping this, it happens all the time in the states that stuff like this is stopped by ordinary people And its not just "terrorist" attacks, its normal people getting hurt/robbed/raped being prevented/stopped before it gets worse.


citizens are almost always the first responders to any crime, fire, injury or accident.

ensuring that the public at large has access to the tools/training of cops/emts/firemen/ect (ie guns band aids, fire extinguishers, ect) at least gives people a chance someone will be able to help until "help" arrives.

the idea of an empowered capable population isn't very popular with some people unfortunately.

Even if you dont like the idea of normal people being able to fight back, or defend their fellow normals from the crazies, at least be first aid trained and carry a reasonable kit in your car/purse.

Removed.

What gets me. I know what I would do if confronted/witness to a situation like this. I have no issue nor hang ups on drawing down on these two. Reason why I would knee cap I rather not have more "memories" to add with what I already down when I saw the "Elephant". I've no issue of rendering aid to the vict....in this case seems like a poncho cover be all that I do but I don't know what I could I've done to render aid. Whats getting/bothering me. It seems some on here would stand back and Iphone video it instead of "Doing Someting" to prevent.

What an absolutely sickening story.

It seems like a random attack, in the sense that they were looking for somebody that fitted their criteria.

These guys should not be allowed to speak in court. they've already said enough.


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 MrDwhitey wrote:
I forgot to add I now wait for a flood of people saying they would've stepped in.

Or who will just continue to question why no-one (apparently, I've not viewed the video as I've had enough anger for today) did.

I would have shot them deader than dead, but hey I live where thats ok. We're just barbarians here.

 Frazzled wrote:
I would have shot them deader than dead, but hey I live where thats ok. We're just barbarians here.

But you have awesome food there

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
I would have shot them deader than dead, but hey I live where thats ok. We're just barbarians here.

But you have awesome food there

Hey!

Barbarians and cavemans (that's me) live an awesome life here!

 Breotan wrote:

Patrol: An armed soldier stands guard outside the Royal Artillery Barracks in Woolwich, south-east London

Oh, look. They got Samwell Tarly from Game of Thrones to stand guard.

There's a sight I would not expect to see in Britain. Makes Frazzled sad.


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 Howard A Treesong wrote:
Doesn't matter, I still find your comments risible.

No fair using them thar five dollar words on us colonials!


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 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
My cuz, who's just back from Afghanistan and was previously a prison guard, thinks these two are prison converts to Islam and were radicalized inside prison, he says there are Islamic kingpins operating inside the major UK prisons who convert young black prisoners to the cause and brainwash them on the inside.

It would certainly explain the accents and the 'our lands' refers to the already muslim nations.






Seriously, feth this religion.

Thats sounds right unfortunately. It happens here too.

On the bright side Frazz at least they have soldiers guarding the barracks. In Northern Ireland they had rent-a-cops. who went diving for cover as two soldiers were shot collecting a pizza from the front gate.

 whembly wrote:
Barbarians and cavemans (that's me) live an awesome life here!

I do have to say that the food over here is excellent I don't think I've been disappointed yet

 lone dirty dog wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 lone dirty dog wrote:
Yes and our government knows this and what do they do about it ………………………………… sweet FA

I was reading a story that police were accused of trying to cover up crimes committed... it seems like your government is trying to do nothing about it.

This is what it looks like to me as an outsider, I'd be really curious to hear how you guys feel about it.

To be honest our government is completely out of touch with its people, I was reading only a few weeks ago that the military now has in place a procedure for civil unrest / revolution or uprising.

I think that explains pretty much what the feeling is if they have that in place, I can honestly say I have no love for my country or the people elected to run it.

They are leaving us to the fate of others and are more concerned about what the courts of the EU think or demand.

Come to America and be a prepper! For enough money you can buy an old missile silo...

Plus I think you'll find all the best food is made by barbarians. Why do you think Britain conquered so much of the world - to get quality munchies. Have you seen English food???

HAGGIS!!!

 lone dirty dog wrote:
To be honest our government is completely out of touch with its people, I was reading only a few weeks ago that the military now has in place a procedure for civil unrest / revolution or uprising.

I think that explains pretty much what the feeling is if they have that in place, I can honestly say I have no love for my country or the people elected to run it.

They are leaving us to the fate of others and are more concerned about what the courts of the EU think or demand.

I always thought that the UK's problem was that the government frequently forgot that the country carried on outside the London Metropolitan area

 Medium of Death wrote:
These guys should not be allowed to speak in court. they've already said enough.

You can't not allow someone to speak at their trial, that goes against what the law stands for. What would be the point, it's not televised so only those present would hear them. I can understand the reasoning in not allowing an interview for tv or reporting their statements, but you absolutely have to treat them within the law.