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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 16:35:45
Subject: Is this everything i need for a PC
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I have an Os but im just checking if this is all the parts i need for a PC?
The link to the stuff is here http://www.ebuyer.com/lists/list/182197
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 17:28:16
Subject: Re:Is this everything i need for a PC
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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Doesn't look like you're missing anything that isn't optional to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 17:39:11
Subject: Is this everything i need for a PC
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Looks like its good to go, what you planning on doing with it? If this is for gaming you won't be playing many modern games at all. For browsing etc it will be perfectly reasonable though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 17:42:06
Subject: Re:Is this everything i need for a PC
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Mostly looks good. It *DOES* look very low-powered for my tastes but I take it you're on a limited budget, which is fine. Please understand I don't mean this as an insult, but if you do have the option to get a more powerful processor or graphics card, it's worth doing as it will likely mean the whole PC is viable for longer. You can always upgrade later, but you'll have spent more money overall if you do so.
A few pointers, though:
1) get a separate power supply. DO NOT skimp on this, a blown power supply can easily wreck the rest of the PC, this is the one thing worth splashing out extra on. Don't rely on the 500W rating on the one with the case, it may be a less reliable brand that gives out if you push it anywhere near that 500W. Personally I've had reliable PSU's from Antec and Seasonic in the past.
2) you can drop the separate SATA cable - the motherboard should come with some. Feel free to drop ebuyer a line first to check, just in case.
3) unless you have some already, get some thermal paste, one tube will do which is only a few quid more. The processor may not have some already applied, but you usually get better results applying your own anyway.
4) have you got all the peripherals you need? Monitor, mouse, keyboard, and speakers/headphones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 18:47:13
Subject: Is this everything i need for a PC
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Speakers headphones yes a good Graphics card and CPU youd recommed
Fiddled around a wee bit and did this list http://www.ebuyer.com/lists/list/182251
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 18:51:15
Subject: Re:Is this everything i need for a PC
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You're just missing one thing. . .
a mac.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 19:01:04
Subject: Re:Is this everything i need for a PC
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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Looks healthier... I'm still really concerned about the power supply though. I'd honestly be happier if you dialled back the processor and GPU again just to afford this.
rubiksnoob said... ...nothing of note
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 19:07:12
Subject: Is this everything i need for a PC
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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a mac.
You fiend!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 19:34:48
Subject: Re:Is this everything i need for a PC
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Apparently rubiksnoob is not a fan of freedom.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 19:37:41
Subject: Is this everything i need for a PC
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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While I didn't pick out the parts, I just finished assembling a new PC for a friend. Here are a few things to think about. Keep in mind this was for a high-end gaming rig, so YMMV.
I'm not sure how much heat your CPU kicks out, but the guy who specked out the computer I put together went with a much larger heat sink then came with the chip. Not sure about how large your case is.
There was only a tiny thing of thermal paste in with the chip, it's only a few bucks for an extra tube. Getting the heat away from the chip is important.
How much juice does your video card take? Last time I tried to upgrade the card in my computer, I needed to return the one I bought because my (lame) power supply just couldn't hack it. Make sure you get a good enough power supply.
Last time I was picking out bits for my own computer, I tried to find the price point right before things got crazy. If you don't need bleeding edge, going for just below that can save you hundreds of dollars. I think I spent around $900 bucks for my computer, including monitor. And while it might be the most powerful thing on the block, it can run modern games on reasonable settings. It's not worth quadrupling the cost, just to bump a few settings from "high" to "Ultra" But you don't want something that obsolete by the time you are finished assembling it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 19:42:17
Subject: Is this everything i need for a PC
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Fixture of Dakka
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For low level gaming, which is what you said you wanted to do, 8GB of RAM is stupidly overkill. Get 4GB, it'll run them fine. Also, as I have said earlier, assuming you want low level gaming, you want an AMD A10 5800K with no GPU. It's about on par with current consoles, and is a pretty nice processor to boot. In fact, I'd risk saying it might be equal or slightly above your current GPU option. Don't forget to switch the motherboard to fit. Consider upping the PSU, and for the love of god, do't skimp on the motherboard. It's the entire base of your PC, but people think the GPU and CPU make all the difference. Don't skimp.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 20:32:09
Subject: Is this everything i need for a PC
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So by GPU you mean graphics card i guess
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 20:37:09
Subject: Is this everything i need for a PC
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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BlapBlapBlap wrote:For low level gaming, which is what you said you wanted to do, 8GB of RAM is stupidly overkill. Get 4GB, it'll run them fine.
Or double it and get 16gb!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 20:42:05
Subject: Is this everything i need for a PC
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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RAM is one of those things that's easy to upgrade later. So if you are strapped for cash, start low, and add more when you can.
That said, back when I was working tech support, there were a lot of end-user issues that were solved by just tossing a few more sticks of RAM in the box. You don't want to cut it too close.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 20:59:57
Subject: Is this everything i need for a PC
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Regular Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/23 21:07:47
Subject: Re:Is this everything i need for a PC
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I build my own gaming rigs for fun so i do know a few things on the subject.
If this is for gaming i wouldn't bother with an AMD processor, i'd go for an Intel i3, vastly superior for gaming.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,review-32628-9.html
MOBO: i'd go for the best you can afford, same goes for processor, once they're in they are by far the most diffucult to change.
PSU: as others have said should be top notch, if you get a sub-par one and it fails you they can wreck and entire computer. Go for good established brands only eg corsair.
The cooling fan you get with standard intel processors are fine for your needs, don't bother buying a flashy one unless you plan on overclocking it, same goes for thermal paste. Intel paste is pre-applied.
Storage, 1TB is alot of space for a pc that doesn't have much grunt. i think 500gb is more than enough.
Ram is pretty cheap nowadays so stick in the most you can fit on your mobo, again a good brand is corsair.
GPU: any money you have left just throw at this. AMD or Nvidia, i have a personal preference for Nvidia.
What else could you get: an SSD, this is by far the favourite part of my rig, means i can boot in under 45 seconds and makes windows run extremely well with a small amount of tweaking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 06:55:02
Subject: Is this everything i need for a PC
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Regular Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 08:43:13
Subject: Re:Is this everything i need for a PC
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Your power supply is inadequate for a PC that is going to be doing gaming. Corsair is a great brand as are all the others that have been mentioned in this thread (Antec, Seasonic, etc) but 430 watts is not enough to drive a gaming PC with a modern video card.
I would not, in 2013, buy any PSU that is less than 650 watts and I'd consider that the bare minimum. A lower wattage might allow you to squeak by but at 430 watts I strongly suspect once you get a game going you'll see BSODs or uncommanded reboots.
Additionally, I would not consider 4gb to be adequate, even though that was recommended earlier. My work PC is using Win7 32 bit, which caps me at 4gb (and in fact due to the architecture means I actually only get a little over 3.5gb, which is normal). I definitely see performance issues on this PC with even just a lot of chrome tabs open as well as my work related apps (which are all low-ram-usage mainframe and log monitors in addition to the Office apps). I'd recommend 8gb and call it a day, especially because most motherboards work better with multiple sticks of ram, in channels - the minimum of which is dual channel.
TLDR yes, you could add it later. I wouldn't, though, especially when it's so inexpensive
Also note that when you install the ram, if you install 2 sticks, they don't necessarily go right next to each other. You'll have to reference your motherboard instructions, but they usually go in banks, so slot 1 and 3 are a bank, and 2 and 4 are the second bank - you can install either way but the performance gains I talked about earlier only happen when they're populated in at least 1 full bank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 09:22:34
Subject: Re:Is this everything i need for a PC
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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I am slightly concerned about the 430W rating as well, but will say it's likely still better than the 500W one started with.
Let's try a different approach. Three questions:
1) what's your preferred/maximum budget for this?
2) is there anything in the list you're set on keeping for any reason? (for instance - the case looking awesome)
3) is there a particular reason you're using ebuyer or will you be happy with other sellers?
This'll let us put together some kit for you. If anyone else wants to take this up, please bear in mind ninjabadger is in the UK.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 09:42:29
Subject: Re:Is this everything i need for a PC
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Worthiest of Warlock Engineers
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I have a laptop with 8GB and that allows me to play Mechwarrior Online. If you are only doing low level you can cut back to around 6GB, maybe even 4.
As has already been stated the SAT cable is most likely unessessary. The motherboard should come with it.
The graphics card looks good. I have a 2GB in my laptop and it works fine.
As has been suggested up your power supply and go for a reliable one. If that blows then you can say goodbye to your computer.
Im not to sure about the Harddrive. 64 MB does seem a little small. I have a Terabite but if your not installing to much then it should be good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 09:43:19
Subject: Is this everything i need for a PC
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yeah, I'm more than happy to lend a hand. Ebuyer is probably the most competitive place to buy stuff. They also deliver stuff very quickly. I always use them. Amazon can yield a few surprises from time to time, worth checking there as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/24 15:49:33
Subject: Is this everything i need for a PC
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Cool my budget is about 300 pounds this isnt Hardcore Gaming its just more casual but this ISNT hardcore but yeah please help me out
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