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Hey, all! Quick update.

Yriel has set-up some printable cards for Eldar psychic powers.

Found here: The Spirit Chamber

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Hey, all! Quick update.

Yriel has set-up some printable cards for Eldar psychic powers.

Found here: The Spirit Chamber

I'm not sure I like the idea of having to checkmark your cards (well, the sleeves at any rate). I'd also prefer to have the numbers next to the powers so you can use it as a reference while rolling.

I much prefer the cards that I made, which also include summary texts for the powers. The set of cards also includes Warlord traits and Daemonic Gifts/Chaos Boons.

Download here.

With these, just print up a few extra sets of the Eldar cards, and use Magic Set Editor to create cards for your units. Slide the PsyPower cards underneath each unit and you're ready to go!

Those cards are amazing! If only my printer had some colour ink in it!

 Shredder wrote:
Those cards are amazing! If only my printer had some colour ink in it!

File > Print > Properties > Advanced > Print in Grayscale > Black Only


I took a gander at those cards last night and thought the ones I made for myself were a little better. I included the power name, it's rolled number, and the effect. They're on cards the size of Catan resource cards and fit into sleeves made for Catan cards. I can use a dry erase marker on the sleeve to indicate which of my 'locks or farseers has which power.

I did make Warlord trait cards using the Magic format, though, since I'm always forgetting that I have them and what they do. My tourney opponents always say, "We're not playing Magic, wtf? Ohhhhh, those are nice!"

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Most all allies lists I've seen have either been Tau or Dark Eldar. Seem to work pretty well with each other. Either bringing more to the fight, or gaining better shooting units.

I was more thinking grotesques with actual armour saves and silly high strength.

I imagine pairing those with Wraithguard would be pretty nice.

5 spiritseers with one wraithguard unit? Battlefocus, and multiple quickens means that you can potentially see a unit soar across the table and D-burn things. Rolling just 2 quickens will give the unit 6" + 6" + D6" movement and then shooting!

I've got 2 question about Iyanden supplement.

First one is: If I take Gifts of Asuryan on one model, can I take Remnants of Glory on another model? So can I have an Autarch with a Soulshrive and another one with the Shard of Anaris and MotLG?

Second question is: If I decide to take Gifts of Asuryan, must I immediately take Iyanden warlord traits and everything else(like Spiritseer having to take Voice of Twilight instead of Conceal)?

I ask because I want to mix two Autarchs, one Solitarch and another one with the Soulshrive and a pack of Warp Spiders. In this scenario, I'd rather have Codex: Eldar warlord traits than the Iyanden.

What's the restriction on the supplement anyway?

Do you have the codex? DakkaDakka is not a replacement for owning the rules.

I've got 2 question about Iyanden supplement.

First one is: If I take Gifts of Asuryan on one model, can I take Remnants of Glory on another model? So can I have an Autarch with a Soulshrive and another one with the Shard of Anaris and MotLG?

Yes. The only restriction is you cannot mix and match on the same character.

Second question is: If I decide to take Gifts of Asuryan, must I immediately take Iyanden warlord traits and everything else(like Spiritseer having to take Voice of Twilight instead of Conceal)?

I believe the Voice of Twilight is mandatory, but they use the words "May" for the Warlord table.

I ask because I want to mix two Autarchs, one Solitarch and another one with the Soulshrive and a pack of Warp Spiders. In this scenario, I'd rather have Codex: Eldar warlord traits than the Iyanden.

What's the restriction on the supplement anyway?

 shamikebab wrote:
Do you have the codex? DakkaDakka is not a replacement for owning the rules.

True, but I doubt I broke any rules at all by asking about general restrictions on the Codex: Eldar. It's like calling me out for asking if in current meta, Eldar can compete against, eg. Necrons and why. So don't worry, we're all legit boys here


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Thanks, Sasori, that answered all my queries


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And by the way, Shamikebab, it seems you have your PHD in Horribleness

 Araenion wrote:

 shamikebab wrote:
Do you have the codex? DakkaDakka is not a replacement for owning the rules.

True, but I doubt I broke any rules at all by asking about general restrictions on the Codex: Eldar. It's like calling me out for asking if in current meta, Eldar can compete against, eg. Necrons and why. So don't worry, we're all legit boys here


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Thanks, Sasori, that answered all my queries


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And by the way, Shamikebab, it seems you have your PHD in Horribleness

Sorry, but wrong. You can get a limited edition Iyanden Codex in print for $50 here. I personally thought about it, but unless I spill for a Wraithlord and Wraithknight (which I am seriously considering right now), I probably won't get it. We'll see.

Or just take the 30 seconds on google to get the Iyanden condensed rules for free

There are two things that I'm trying to figure out regarding my current list (a list that is fast, mobile, and shooty), and I think they kind of apply in a general sense to the entire codex, so:

1. Dire Avenger Exarchs: I'm incredibly reticent to pay the points to make them potentially a decent CC model when the DA's being in combat is something I would rather avoid. They're a unit that I plan to drop off at objectives, or to drop in front of enemy units which will then suffer shooting attacks from several other units (after which they'll generally run backwards out of charge range). I'm easily OK with paying the 10 points for the +1 Ld... it's the 15pts for the 4++, 15-20pts for an upgraded weapon, and possibly another 10-20 for the other two powers that makes the Exarch a rather large point sink. Those are points that I can use towards a Spiritseer to go with the unit, which might do more to upgrade their main capabilities, or for more Rangers, or anywhere else in the list.

2. Infiltrating Striking Scorpions in an otherwise fast, mobile list. I love the unit and the changes in the new codex are fantastic. However (and this refers only to this particular build), I'm not sure that a single close combat unit, deploying away from the rest of the army, is a good use for the points. I totally get the idea of them being a threat and forcing the enemy to react to their presence, and there is value in putting an enemy's front lines at risk and drawing fire away from my Serpents and Jetbikes. That said, this particular list is so focused on movement and firepower that a close combat squad walking in just seems like it's pulling focus away from the army. Thoughts?

The list options for reference:
LIST A:
-Farseer with Bike
-DA's in Serpent
-2 Ranger squads
-6 Jetbikes + Warlock
-Fire Dragons in Serpent
-Striking Scorpions
-Warp Spiders
-Vypers (Scatter/Cannon)

LIST B:
-Farseer with Bike
-Spiritseer
-DA's in Serpent
-2 Ranger Squads
-6 Jetbikes + Warlock
-Warp Spiders
-Vypers (Scatter/Cannon)
-Dark Reapers in Serpent
-Wraithlord with 2 BL

 evildrspock wrote:

 Araenion wrote:

 shamikebab wrote:
Do you have the codex? DakkaDakka is not a replacement for owning the rules.

True, but I doubt I broke any rules at all by asking about general restrictions on the Codex: Eldar. It's like calling me out for asking if in current meta, Eldar can compete against, eg. Necrons and why. So don't worry, we're all legit boys here


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Thanks, Sasori, that answered all my queries


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And by the way, Shamikebab, it seems you have your PHD in Horribleness

Sorry, but wrong. You can get a limited edition Iyanden Codex in print for $50 here. I personally thought about it, but unless I spill for a Wraithlord and Wraithknight (which I am seriously considering right now), I probably won't get it. We'll see.

Perhaps you missed the part on that link where it says "No longer available".

 Magc8Ball wrote:


1. Dire Avenger Exarchs: I'm incredibly reticent to pay the points to make them potentially a decent CC model when the DA's being in combat is something I would rather avoid. They're a unit that I plan to drop off at objectives, or to drop in front of enemy units which will then suffer shooting attacks from several other units (after which they'll generally run backwards out of charge range). I'm easily OK with paying the 10 points for the +1 Ld... it's the 15pts for the 4++, 15-20pts for an upgraded weapon, and possibly another 10-20 for the other two powers that makes the Exarch a rather large point sink. Those are points that I can use towards a Spiritseer to go with the unit, which might do more to upgrade their main capabilities, or for more Rangers, or anywhere else in the list.

2. Infiltrating Striking Scorpions in an otherwise fast, mobile list. I love the unit and the changes in the new codex are fantastic. However (and this refers only to this particular build), I'm not sure that a single close combat unit, deploying away from the rest of the army, is a good use for the points. I totally get the idea of them being a threat and forcing the enemy to react to their presence, and there is value in putting an enemy's front lines at risk and drawing fire away from my Serpents and Jetbikes. That said, this particular list is so focused on movement and firepower that a close combat squad walking in just seems like it's pulling focus away from the army. Thoughts?

IMO
1. I you don't plan of getting them in CC, don't upgrade. You'll pay points for a situation you try to avoid and thus will come up not nearly enough to make it worthwhile.
2. I feel that without mobility, they likely become a throwaway unit. If you feel you need a CC element to complement your list, I'd go for a different unit like a Wraithknight of a unit of Shining Spears. The knight is useful in both the shooting and assault phase, and can also put pressure on early on with it's 12" move. The Spears are also another good home for the Farseer on bike.

 Nivoglibina wrote:
If you feel you need a CC element to complement your list, I'd go for a different unit like a Wraithknight of a unit of Shining Spears. The knight is useful in both the shooting and assault phase, and can also put pressure on early on with it's 12" move. The Spears are also another good home for the Farseer on bike.

Yeah, both of those are on my long term "to build" list once I can afford to do some additions to my current stock of models. I suspect the Spears will end up coming first, just because my first priority is going to be to do a second unit of Jetbikes and I'll have the extra parts to make some Spears. For the moment, though, I think I can go without any serious CC elements in exchange for the raw speed of everything else.

Is the bearer of the Celestial Lance subject to the blast it creates via Soulshatter? If he/she is, why would you take this?