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Made in gb
Fresh-Faced New User





Hey, take a look at my army list

Let me know what you think, any and all comments welcome!

See ATTACHMENT!

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 Filename Speed Freak Army List 2500.docx [Disk] Download
 Description Speed Freak Army List - 2500
 File size 36 Kbytes

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/06/02 11:47:40


 
   
Made in nz
Disguised Speculo





If you post it as text rather than a document I'll give it a once over. If not, well, maybe this bump will find you someone who will download that file from you.
   
Made in gb
Fresh-Faced New User





HQ - Wazdakka Gutsmek

Warbiker Nob (Waagh Banner/ Big Choppa)

7 Warbiker Boyz


HQ – Mad Dok Grotsnik

8 Nobz
(Eavy Armour/ Cybork Bodies/ 1 Waagh Banner/ 6 Big Choppas/ 2 PK/ 8 Twin-linked shootas)

Dedicated Trukk
(Red Paint Job/ Armour Plates/ Boarding Plank/ Reinforced Ram/ Big Shoota/ Stikkbomb Chukka)


Elite – 9 Nobz
(Eavy Armour/ Cybork Bodies/ 1 Waagh Banner/ 6 Big Choppas/ 2 PK/ 8 Twin-linked shootas/ 1 Painboy + Grot Orderly)

Dedicated Trukk
(Red Paint Job/ Armour Plates/ Boarding Plank/ Reinforced Ram/ Big Shoota/ Stikkbomb Chukka)


Troop 1 – Nob
(Eavy Armour/Bosspole/ Big Choppa/ Shoot-Scorcha)

10 Boyz

1 Burna Boy

Dedicated Trukk
(Red Paint Job/ Armour Plates/ Reinforced Ram/ Big Shoota/ Stikkbomb Chukka)


Troop 2 – MegaNob
(Bosspole/ Twin-linked shoota/ Cybork Body)

9 Boyz

1 Burna Boy

Dedicated Trukk
(Red Paint Job/ Armour Plates/ Reinforced Ram/ Big Shoota/ Stikkbomb Chukka)


Troop 3 – Ard Boy Nob
(Eavy Armour/ Big Choppa)

11 Ard Boyz
(Eavy Armour)

Dedicated Trukk
(Red Paint Job/ Armour Plates/ Reinforced Ram/ Big Shoota/ Stikkbomb Chukka)


Fast Attack – 6 Deffkopta’s
(Twin-linked Rockets)



   
Made in nz
Camouflaged Zero





Auckland, New Zealand

I am so lost as to what going on here. The unit compositions and upgrades seem a bit random as they're not legal.
So running through it
Warbiker squad - the nob in it cannot take a waaagh banner, only nob units can take them and they can in turn be put on warbikes.
Normal nobs units are legal
Troops 1 - you can't take a burna boy in a normal unit. Burna's are only available in burnaboy units and of big meks
Troops 2 - same thing with the burnaboy, and the nob leader cannot take mega armour
Troops 3 - legal
Deffkoptas - unit size caps out at 5 models.

So other that compositional discrepancies, there are a lot of unnecessary upgrades. A trukk is a 35pt model. And with all those upgrades it'll still die like an AV10 35pt model and ultimately still do the same function as its bare-bones counterpart. Really the only useful upgrade is the ram for terrain rerolls, but even then... not essential. So I would look at stripping all of the upgrades for each of your trukks and that'll give you about 30pts spare per trukk.
If you are taking wazdakka, its best to make use of his warbikers as troops rule to justify his cost. At the moment you have just the one unit, you might as well take a biker boss in this case and save on the points. Overall for 2500pts there is a tiny amount of units on the board. A lot are probably held up in the 2 nobs units, tbh they are a bit sub par for 20pts a model.

If your attack is going too well, you have walked into an ambush

The easy way is always mined

 
   
Made in no
Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel




Norway (Oslo)

Sounds like someone is playing a custom ork codex to me

Waagh like a bawz

-
Kaptin Goldteef's waagh! 16250 points 45/18/3 (W/L/D) 7th Ed

6250 points 9/3/1 (W/L/D) sixth-ed
Dark elves: 2350points 3/0/0 (W/L/D)
3400 points 19/6/0 (W/L/D) 8' armybook
Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)

 
   
Made in nz
Disguised Speculo





I get the strong feeling that you are very new to this game. If thats the case you really should dip your feet in before you take the plunge ~ you'd be a heck of a lot better off starting at 1000 and working your way up.

As for the list, I'm tired as hell so I'm only going to go over two bits. Theres plenty more to talk about though

First up, those Nobs. What do you want these guys to do? If it's crack open tanks, they're fine, though you could probably save a bunch of points dropping the unneeded Big Choppas. If you want them to be able to bust open some MEQ or TEQ as well, you'll probably want 1-2 more PK per unit to be honest. Either way the BC are pretty much useless here unless your wanting to take Kombi Skorchas with them ~ BC are statistically about the same as a slugga and choppa, except against very tough targets. Against your run of the mill rank and file its not really any different except that it costs you more.

Secondly, I'm intrigued by one of your entries;

Troop 1 – Nob
(Eavy Armour/Bosspole/ Big Choppa/ Shoot-Scorcha)

10 Boyz

1 Burna Boy

Dedicated Trukk
(Red Paint Job/ Armour Plates/ Reinforced Ram/ Big Shoota/ Stikkbomb Chukka)


I'm pretty sure that the Shoota Skorcha is not available for Nob leaders, and the Burna certainly isn't an option.

That aside, Armour Plates are a huge waste of points, as is the stikkbomm chukka. The first upgrade is pretty bad all around, but worthless here, and the second upgrade is just plain worthless 100% of the time. For the 15 points your spending I'd say your getting perhaps 2 points worth of actual 'value' added to your army.

I'm not going to explain how exactly these upgrades are pretty poor. Instead, it would be a good exercise for a new player to try and figure that out for themselves. List building is half of this game (the other is rolling on various random tables and for first turn...), it's probably a good idea to get that down before you go throwing 2500 points worth of models at someone

Edit: Blah, beaten to the punch by *two* people. I've lost my touch

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/06/02 12:12:58


 
   
Made in gb
Fresh-Faced New User





Thanks for all your comments!

I haven't played for about 10 yrs, then picked up the latest codex and some new models and was trying to see what I could come up with.

Hence you used to be able to take some of the upgrades/ models I have put in I think.

As for Big Choppa's I think they're cool, and S7 i believe!

Taking a Bike Boss seems a good idea as well so will def look into that, and will strip my Trukks and split the Koptas into 2 units of 3!

Edit Banners etc
Add PK's in Nobs

Thanks again for your help!
   
Made in nz
Disguised Speculo





As for Big Choppa's I think they're cool, and S7 i believe!


Don't take them because they're S7, because that does jack squat.

By all means take them because you think they're cool. Thats a better reason than anything else.
   
Made in no
Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel




Norway (Oslo)

 Dakkamite wrote:
As for Big Choppa's I think they're cool, and S7 i believe!


Don't take them because they're S7, because that does jack squat.

By all means take them because you think they're cool. Thats a better reason than anything else.


¨this¨

Else if you want high strength allways go for a powerklaw or deffrollas.

Waagh like a bawz

-
Kaptin Goldteef's waagh! 16250 points 45/18/3 (W/L/D) 7th Ed

6250 points 9/3/1 (W/L/D) sixth-ed
Dark elves: 2350points 3/0/0 (W/L/D)
3400 points 19/6/0 (W/L/D) 8' armybook
Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)

 
   
 
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