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Don't really like the Master of the Marches- kinda stupid having those two great big speakers on the back to relay orders on the battlefield. That's what their helmet vox-comms are for! Idiots.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Don't really like the Master of the Marches- kinda stupid having those two great big speakers on the back to relay orders on the battlefield. That's what their helmet vox-comms are for! Idiots.

Not in an army where every CO and NCO has lost his helmet

But I agree, those Finecast details snap fast

 ph34r wrote:

UltraPrime wrote:
I've been wanting a decent Master of the Forge since the 5th ed. Codex hit.

Is the techmarine not blingy enough? I've seen it a million more times as a MotF than as a regular techmarine, that's for sure.

There's no conversion beamer backpack on the GW Techmarine.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Don't really like the Master of the Marches- kinda stupid having those two great big speakers on the back to relay orders on the battlefield. That's what their helmet vox-comms are for! Idiots.

He totally needs an electric guitar.

MajorWesJanson wrote:

 ph34r wrote:

UltraPrime wrote:
I've been wanting a decent Master of the Forge since the 5th ed. Codex hit.

Is the techmarine not blingy enough? I've seen it a million more times as a MotF than as a regular techmarine, that's for sure.

There's no conversion beamer backpack on the GW Techmarine.

A pity at the GK Techmarine shares the same model, because they can take Conversion Beamers and they don't have it in the Techmarine box...

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Don't really like the Master of the Marches- kinda stupid having those two great big speakers on the back to relay orders on the battlefield. That's what their helmet vox-comms are for! Idiots.

He totally needs an electric guitar.

He might attract the attention of Slaanesh, who will issue a C&D to him for copying Noise Marines

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Don't really like the Master of the Marches- kinda stupid having those two great big speakers on the back to relay orders on the battlefield. That's what their helmet vox-comms are for! Idiots.

No reason they can't be transmitters in addition to speakers.

I like them, the Master of Rites servo skull is going straight to my Grey Knight army

That lord executioner is just that Blood Angel "Astrogrim" chap turned vanilla, isn't it?

 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Also whats with all the loudspeakers..I thought marines had cool com systems built into their helmets....ahh I see, the masters don't wear helmets so they have to yell...makes perfect sense now.

This is a legit question. Why in the crap would anyone think this is a good idea?

The Master of RItes could make a nice Dark Apostle if converted right

I'm just glad everyone finally gets access to a generic Astorath and a Chief Chaplain.

I mean, how long has everyone been clamoring for them?

Even though I half-jest, the Executioner isn't too bad. The other three are just not good.

All I see are the dozens of spots for Finecrap errors, holes, missing detail, etc. and so on.

I quite like them actually, and The Lord Executioner may find his way onto my paint station.

*hides*

I actually like them. Bite me.

I like the Executioner. He also fills the role of captain w/ jump pack, which is something lacking from the vanilla SM range. Relics is not bad, but looks like an up-jumped sarge, not a captain.

The other two are a little heavy on the parchment and speakers for my taste. Could be worse.

What's left, the captains of the first and 10th?

Think the master of marches would do fine using speakers to talk to Imperial citizens. Maybe not all of them have vox-coms....

I really like the new masters.

War came. I'm underwhelmed.

I would have them all........although some changes would be made!!!!! Helmets not bare heads and no stupid vox casters as space marines have in built vox.
All and all I think a few personal could make them workable. But I have to agree they are a bit Meh! Can't wait to see the Spacemarine bulldozer mini Titan!!!!!! PLEASE GW we can't eat another gak sandwich!!!

 McNinja wrote:

 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Also whats with all the loudspeakers..I thought marines had cool com systems built into their helmets....ahh I see, the masters don't wear helmets so they have to yell...makes perfect sense now.

This is a legit question. Why in the crap would anyone think this is a good idea?

They are actually part of a jump pack's exhaust system. Still looks cartoonish.

Those marines are aweful. The executioner is the only half decent one.

What is with the horrible posing going on these days. Extremely static and why is that guy holding his cape up like that?

"In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, The only thing to protect you is your blanket" -Master of Rites

Kolbalt266 wrote:
"In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, The only thing to protect you is your blanket" -Master of Rites

That's not a blanket, that's a towel.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:


They are actually part of a jump pack's exhaust system. Still looks cartoonish.

You probably mean jump pack intake, on the Executioner. However, there's two models who have speakers mounted on top of their regular backpacks..

I like the Marches model - nothing else to do than to read a long list out loud during a battle. I'm not so sure about the whole concept of making models "special" just by adding a bunch of stuff on their shoulders either..

prowla wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 McNinja wrote:

 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Also whats with all the loudspeakers..I thought marines had cool com systems built into their helmets....ahh I see, the masters don't wear helmets so they have to yell...makes perfect sense now.

This is a legit question. Why in the crap would anyone think this is a good idea?

They are actually part of a jump pack's exhaust system. Still looks cartoonish.

You probably mean jump pack intake, on the Executioner. However, there's two models who have speakers mounted on top of their regular backpacks..

I like the Marches model - nothing else to do than to read a long list out loud during a battle. I'm not so sure about the whole concept of making models "special" just by adding a bunch of stuff on their shoulders either..

Yeah, that's what I meant.

Oh wow, you are right about the backpack speakers. I can't believe I missed that.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Other extreme are some English mail order rulebooks like Death from the Sky and Iyanden, that have no preorder at all.

I pre-ordered Iyanden.


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I like these new SM guys, especially the Master of Relics. Does anyone else think they look a little closer to "truscale" than heroic?

i love everything Space Marine, and own all the metals and plastics from '85 on, but i hate everything Finecast...
so, no money for you, GW...

cheers
jah

Wow they really messed these up, there's nowhere near enough ugly detail clutter on these things. WTH GW, I thought we were aiming for 98% festooned these days? Look at all the flat spaces you left on these guys. Slightly better than the DA releases a few months back but still not enough pointless ugly crap slapped all over :(

I actually like these at first glance. They're utterly not needed, true, but I think the sculptors have done well. I liked the first four Masters of the Chapter, too.

Shame they could not have given us Asdrubael Vect, Bastogne, Ku'Gath and, say, Zogwort, of course.

The models don’t look bad, but they’re a bit uninspired. For those that get worked up over the vox casters being impractical, just think of them as a ceremonial sign of rank, for example the same way you might see modern military high ranking officers with swords. Nobody actually thinks an Admiral or whatever is going to run around stabbing people these days, it’s just part of the uniform.

Having said that, if I was using the rules I think Forgeworld do some good Horus Heresy models which would proxy nicely for some of these chapter masters.

For those worried about helmets, I hope these will be the same as the old Masters and come with separate heads.

 Barzam wrote:
They don't look that bad. A bit boring in terms of stances and lacking in helmets, but not terrible. But, they are Finecast, so I won't be buying these anyway. At least it's something new though and not just some old figures repacked at double the price.

Agreed. Could be much worse.


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I think the Master of Rites should have been a chaplain. Isn't that what they are there for?