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Thanks in advance for the input. Let me know what you think

LORDS: 15%

Spellweaver (army general, lore of life)
- level 4, wand of wych elm, talisman of preservation [350]


HEROES: 20%

Noble (battle standard bearer)
- bsb, armour of silvered steel, luckstone [140]

Noble
- great eagle, spear, shield, armour of destiny [179]

Spellsinger (lore of athel loren)
- level 2, dispel scroll


CORE: 25%

Glade Guard (20)
- musician, standard bearer, banner of eternal flame [268]

Glade Guard (12)
- musician [150]

Dryads (8) [96]

Dryads (8) [96]


SPECIAL: 36%

Eternal Guard (19)
- musician, guardian, standard bearer, banner of swiftness [273]

Treekin (6) [390]

Wild Riders (8)
- musician [208]


RARE:

Great Eagle [50]

Great Eagle [50]


total points= 2,400
total characters= 4
total banners= 3

Is the title oximoronic or sarcastic?

Sorry that I don't have anything constructive to say...

The list itself looks pretty good. What are your intended tactics?


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A couple suggestions I will make regardless. Split the Glade Guard into multiple smaller units. The big ones are good, but it will be more affective to have it split up. Also the Eternal Guard are good units, but ususlly dont end up doing much, at least in my opinion. I would use them as redirectors or for flank charging only. If they get tied down then thats pretty much it for them.

I already commented on this list on another site but I'll copy and paste here so that other people can compare and contrast with what I have to say.

quite a lot that needs to be changed here if you want to make a competitive list.

The level 4 doesn't need a ward save. If you're worried about her getting sniped with magic then take MR3, otherwise the Moonstone is a great way to keep her safe.

Trying to make a tanky Wood Elf BSB doesn't work, and is just generally a bad idea. Instead, Asyendi's Bane and Hail of Doom Arrow is pretty much the best way to go.

There are a number of better eagle noble builds other than that one. For example, full mundane armour + great weapon + Dragonhelm + Amaranthine Brooch + Potion of Foolhardiness.

I can see what you're trying to do by maxing out on the anti-magic, but you simply can't fund it all in a Wood Elf list at 2400pts as you have to make too many cuts elsewhere. I would suggest dropping her outright, and then I'd aslo swap the Wand on the Level 4 for the Scroll.

There's no real benefit to taking Glade Guard in anything bigger than units of 10 after you have the obligatory flaming unit. Fortunately, you have several opportunities to free up points to get your Glade Guard count up closer to 60.

Eternal Guard are just awful, they have absolutely no redeeming features and have no place in a competitive list.

The same goes for Tree Kin, they're also very bad.

Once again, Wild Riders are shocking. Essentially, all your special choices can be dropped to make way for more Glade Guard and then some extra bits that you may want to have in (for example, multiple eagle characters with great weapons is looking like the last bastion where Wood Elves can have even a faint hope of competing).

When WE characters choose eagles as mounts, what do they count as? Ridden monsters? Monstrous cav? Can the mount be targetted separately?

They become monstrous cavalry, so they use the toughness and wounds of the mounts. The mounts also cannot be targeted separately.

 Tangent wrote:
When WE characters choose eagles as mounts, what do they count as? Ridden monsters? Monstrous cav? Can the mount be targetted separately?

Look at the chart in the back of the BRB, it will say something like MB next to great eagle.

A character riding a MB becomes MC (monstrous cav so he takes on the M, T and W characteristics of his monstrous mount. The eagle cannot be singled out, a dragon or manticore or gryphon can.

Got it, sorry for the derail.

Hmmm. First up, while I've never had the chance to use tree kin (don't like the models), but the Eternal Guard certainly have their uses- for one, they're pretty much the only thing in the book that can give you a decent static combat res. They also make a pretty resolute bodyguard for your BSB.

Second, for magical defense, can I recommend the Divination Orb? Cheap as chips and it can generate a fair few extra dispel dice.
On the subject of magic, what's the spellsinger for? Lore of Athel Loren is really quite appalling (alas) and I can't really see it adding much to the army.

I'm quite curious about the lack of treeman/men. Keep them near the BSB and they can slowly eat through pretty much anything- 3+ and 5++ at T6 is pretty durable, especially with Lore of Life to boost.

Aside from that, yeah, I'd split the glade guard. You have the same number of shots, can split fire if necessary and you won't lose your entire firebase if the enemy manage to get a single charge in.

That's all I can think of- must admit, bit distracted by crummy resident evil film.

Cheers!

Az

 tmarichards wrote:

The level 4 doesn't need a ward save. If you're worried about her getting sniped with magic then take MR3, otherwise the Moonstone is a great way to keep her safe.

I always recommend ward saves for lord level wizards. Miscast mitigation.

If he gets Throne of Vines that becomes pretty redundant though.

Az