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rigeld2 wrote:
Canoptek Spyder has a Unit Composition of 1 Spyder, but you can add 2 more.

Are you going to say that unit cannot be joined?

No, I'm not going to say that. I was trying to ask a genuine question, not a rhetorical one. I was merely curious to see if 'Unit Composition' had any bearing on the RAI aspect of the discussion. As has been most helpfully pointed out: No, it appears not.

The statlines for the shielded missile drones appears also in the riptide's entry - when they are purchased, they are additional squad members for that unit. They move, shoot, can be targeted by precision shots, can take wounds, make saves, fail saves, and be killed.

Look at a unit from another codex - Dark Eldar Beastmasters. The unit composition is 1-5 beastmasters, which may take up to X of kymera, clawed fiends, razorwing flocks. These too are optional models, that when purchased, count as additional models to a squad.

A riptide, just because it has the option to add models to the starting unit (by taking drones) fulfill's the main rulebook's rules for whether or not an Independant Character (or multiple independant characters) can join the riptide.

It just works.

Hello sorry to interrupt but have been wondering this for a long time.
If a riptide is in a squad then with like 4-5 drones and a commander.
does majority of toughness apply making it effectively t4 (I think drones are t4) until they are dead?

Sorry for derailing the thread.
Regards ogard

 Ogard wrote:
Hello sorry to interrupt but have been wondering this for a long time.
If a riptide is in a squad then with like 4-5 drones and a commander.
does majority of toughness apply making it effectively t4 (I think drones are t4) until they are dead?

Sorry for derailing the thread.
Regards ogard

The riptide itself cannot join a separate unit - the commander would join the riptide.

If the riptide is solo, and the commander has 1 or 2 drones and joins, then yes the unit is majority T4 and thus would be wounded by shooting based on that. If the riptide takes shielded missile drones, they are T6 so therefore wouldn't reduce the majority toughness of the unit.

jazzpaintball wrote:

cryhavok wrote:

in all wording of the codex, drones are purchased as wargear. Not an additional member of a unit.

The codex disagrees

How does it disagree when it is the codex itself?

Drones count as members of a unit, but they are purchased as wargear.

I have been asking this question every time with no answers:

At what point does wargear take affect? In the codex or on an army list/on the table?

Irrelevant, the cxodex states they are normal members of the unit for ALL rules purpose

ONE rules purpose is to determine if an IC can join the unit

You're absolutely categorically wrong on this, and made a bad call.