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Oh man, I hope they do a good job on this... the 40k universe lends itself so fething well to the idea, it will piss all over WoW.

The only thing I can see being an issue is.. if the community have to get together and sort their lives out in order to attack and take planets and systems, surely Space Marines will just consume the galaxy, I mean, they are far and away the most popular faction, so it stands to reason they will outnumber the other races massively.

And how many young lads (main gamers) are going to want to be puny Eldar!?

updated first post.

 mattyrm wrote:
Oh man, I hope they do a good job on this... the 40k universe lends itself so fething well to the idea, it will piss all over WoW.

The only thing I can see being an issue is.. if the community have to get together and sort their lives out in order to attack and take planets and systems, surely Space Marines will just consume the galaxy, I mean, they are far and away the most popular faction, so it stands to reason they will outnumber the other races massively.

And how many young lads (main gamers) are going to want to be puny Eldar!?

If thats the problem, just nerf the hell out of Space Marines, and make the Eldar as OP as possible, then turn the tides to level up the thing around again. Then you should have a more or less stable community around the factions, since people has tendence to stay where they have their strongest character Wich in this case, would be an Eldar.

Also, the puny Eldar are Space efls, so we can expect a similar tendence as when Blood Elfs came to WoW with the Burning Crusade.

List of previous games by this company concerns me....

I just hope they look at what some of the more popular features are in modern mmo's and use them all.

Player Created Content: One of the main features behind Neverwinter Online is player created dungeons. It's not a very big stretch to consider this same mechanic so players can create space hulk style maps that need to be cleared.

Rich, 3 way PvP: While I think racial divisions between servers could be a mistake (eldar vs marines vs orks), a real realm vs realm 3way large scale pvp system is pretty much mandatory for any new game coming out.

Diverse Classes: How a low budget game like Shadowbane managed to offer one of the richest and most diverse class systems any MMO has ever had is beyond me. But the stale trait system many MMO's use is just laziness. We need to return to RPG roots in MMORPGs.

Viable small to moderate scale content that is equally viable to any large scale content offered. One of the largest mistakes WoW made was its 40 man raids. It took 5+ years for them to scale back to the 10 mans they have today, and even those I would like to see more rare where 5 mans are the 'go to' content players complete.

Get rid of the holy trinity! Several games still offer classes that could still fall into the holy trinity (healer, tank, dps) but even those work without strict tanks or healers being invited to groups. There's no reason PvE content needs to be boring and shallow without tanks and healers.

Now if a new MMO comes out in any genre and can't cover these few basic elements that I would consider mandatory for any MMO at a minimum, it's going to be a complete failure of a game.

Best of luck.

ps. Please let me play as a striking scorpion or incubi...

BrotherVord wrote:
List of previous games by this company concerns me....

We have a winner! http://www.bhvr.com/en/games/

So these guys are a licensed shovelware company, is that it?

I can't get too excited about this after being left at the altar by the last one.

Linkdead wrote:

BrotherVord wrote:
List of previous games by this company concerns me....

We have a winner! http://www.bhvr.com/en/games/

Hahaha I saw the doritos crash course thing and thought, oh dear.

Their main games however are the likes of Dantes Inferno which had pretty solid mechanics and gameplay so I think it should be ok.

I have little worry for the story and background because the setting is already there and GW will not want their video game showcasing their product to show space marines falling in love with imperial citizens or eldar warriors becoming uber god like psykers in the game.


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Holy crap just read those new details.

Vehicles like rhinos and battlewagons, mother of god.

Drop pod assaults, this is the game, it has to be.

Who wants to join me for Black Templars drop pod vanguard crusade squads?

 unmercifulconker wrote:

Linkdead wrote:

BrotherVord wrote:
List of previous games by this company concerns me....

We have a winner! http://www.bhvr.com/en/games/

Hahaha I saw the doritos crash course thing and thought, oh dear.

Their main games however are the likes of Dantes Inferno which had pretty solid mechanics and gameplay so I think it should be ok.

I have little worry for the story and background because the setting is already there and GW will not want their video game showcasing their product to show space marines falling in love with imperial citizens or eldar warriors becoming uber god like psykers in the game.

Yeah, about that... They didn't do the original, just the PSP port.

Oh....... ooohhhhhhhh.

Still I shall have faith. They are doing a reddit AMA soon.

 KaiserEddie wrote:


If thats the problem, just nerf the hell out of Space Marines, and make the Eldar as OP as possible, then turn the tides to level up the thing around again. Then you should have a more or less stable community around the factions, since people has tendence to stay where they have their strongest character Wich in this case, would be an Eldar.

Also, the puny Eldar are Space efls, so we can expect a similar tendence as when Blood Elfs came to WoW with the Burning Crusade.

Actually if this is more of an action game they could simply have team size caps. Will have to see if this one takes off. I could see something sort of like Planetside working. Certainly nothing like WoW though, not WH40Kish anyway.

I reckon they could just balance it out a bit with racial perks, so space marines have more health and eldar have more powerful psychic abilities or orks have better strength, rather than making all races the same to balance the game.

I thought Maxis made the sims, I have not played a sims game since the first one came out like 12-13 years ago so i might be wrong.

You know what would be an amazing 40k MMO? A Rogue Trader plying his warrant of trade on the fringes of the Imperium.

You know what would make a poor 40k MMO? A generic 3rd person game with big promises which will almost certainly fall flat on their face.

I hope its more then just running around and shooting other players in the 40k universe , I already get that fix from space marine

I wanna be able to engage in massive conflicts in the warhammer universe, drop pod landing upon the field of battle, close combat spec and predators and land raiders rolling up behind me. I think this game might just be that.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
I wanna be able to engage in massive conflicts in the warhammer universe, drop pod landing upon the field of battle, close combat spec and predators and land raiders rolling up behind me. I think this game might just be that.

It already exists its called planetside 2. Its not the 40k universe but one wartorn city looks like any other. I hope theres a PVE aspect to it ,if it does not its just COD with spesh muhreens

 unmercifulconker wrote:
I wanna be able to engage in massive conflicts in the warhammer universe, drop pod landing upon the field of battle, close combat spec and predators and land raiders rolling up behind me. I think this game might just be that.

You won't be able to, I bet my left testicle that it will be standard sized multiplayer maps (at the very most 64 players but likely a lot less) with some kind of meta map. Development for consoles also doesn't fill me with confidence.

A friend of mine is working on this. He worked for long months on Wet as well, I saw his girlfriend playtest a Kim Possible.

From what he's told me, the movie tie-ins pay the bill, more than anything.

Skipping all the replies for a moment, so I can savor my reaction to the OP...


WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

So, what's his verdict? Should we get excited?

Become a warrior from one of four initial factions, each unique and opposed to one another: Space Marines, Chaos Space Marines, Orks and Eldar.

That's... sad.

Looks like Ultramarines / Word Bearers / Orkz / Eldar.

Should be fun. Assuming it actually gets released.

It's slating the end of 2015 as a release...That is 2.5 years away. The horrifically early announcement frankly does nothing to help my confidence, it's not worth announcing at concept phase which is where it is.

 Minx wrote:
So, what's his verdict? Should we get excited?

If you really want to. Their previous games don;t look too impressive though http://www.bhvr.com/en/games/

Tbh as long as I can play Orks or Eldar I can dig this. If it does well, they can always add other factions later.

Also at this point I don't really mind MMORPG or semi MMOFPS, this could be the game that gets me back into pvp.

 Palindrome wrote:

 Minx wrote:
So, what's his verdict? Should we get excited?

If you really want to. Their previous games don;t look too impressive though http://www.bhvr.com/en/games/

Doesn't look too promising. I like your rogue trader idea though.

 Ouze wrote:
So these guys are a licensed shovelware company, is that it?

I can't get too excited about this after being left at the altar by the last one.

Unfortunately, I fear the same. Considering the company hasn't been going *that* long and has a ridiculously long list of mediocre games, it's clear that not that long is spent on each one.
Looking down that list, the only game I can say I like is Naughty Bear... and that's for humour value. The actual gameplay in that got formulaic pretty damn fast.

I can only suspect that after Dark Millennium went down the drain, GW are none too willing to put a similar amount of time and effort into this again. Pity - I'd argue it's better off not bothering at all than cheapening the IP with a rubbish version.

Yeah, don't expect anything from this at all. That way we can only be pleasantly suprised.

I've enjoyed a few of the games these guys have done before, so I'm fairly optimistic abou this.