40k MMO

Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:

No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.

If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

**Ifepy**

lol what if this is all a big prank?

**Deathklaat**

E3 is the last place you want to pull a coorporate prank.

**Avatar 720**

Deathklaat wrote:
E3 is the last place you want to pull a coorporate prank.

Or the first.

"I trolled a forum!"
"Cool, I trolled E3."

**d3m01iti0n**

What a wonderful tidbit of News and Rumors this is.

**Void__Dragon**

"Not caring about balance" huh lol?

gg Black Templars

**unmercifulconker**

I dont think he literally meant forget balance all together but he is right, no game can ever be balanced so why worry about it the most. Doesnt mean they wont worry about it.

**Galdos**

If it is not F2P they are dooming themselves to failure.

Assuming it doesnt fail anyways like Dark Millennium which im still annoyed I lost that Single Player game

**Void__Dragon**

unmercifulconker wrote:
I dont think he literally meant forget balance all together but he is right, no game can ever be balanced so why worry about it the most. Doesnt mean they wont worry about it.

Only his words imply it is an explicit design choice.

I can't wait to play as an Ork Boy that is outnumbered ten to one by the Marine players, with each Marine being worth five of me.

**Melissia**

I can't wait to hear the endless whining of players who WANT to play marines but can't because they're trying to enforce the 5:1 ratio of Orks:Marines.

**unmercifulconker**

Just remembered the combat is going to be like space marine and gears of war, HOT DAYUM!

Meh they do have plans to try and even out the numbers by making space marine players pay for that race, while the orks are free so in theory there should be more orks than marine players and I think it is a great idea, I dont mind paying what even £10 for my race, the game itself is free.
However it will be interesting to see how this tactic plays out and I do have doubts.

Edit: They arent going to enforce number ratios, just ways which will try to convince people to pick a certain race. Ultimately its not their fault for the number issues.

**Melissia**

unmercifulconker wrote:
Ultimately its not their fault for the number issues.

Actually... yes, it is. If they refuse to balance the game and make it so that one faction is always both more numerous AND stronger than all the others, it is entirely the developers' fault. It's THEIR game, how it's implemented is THEIR decision.

**Void__Dragon**

It will admittedly be hilarious to see the Tyranids attack the overwhelming Space Marine horde every battle, to allow the few Eldar and Ork Boy players a chance of victory.

**Minx**

unmercifulconker wrote:
the game itself is free.

Unfortunately only a tiny slice of the game seems to be free. And that part, being cannon fodder for the paying space marines, will get old pretty fast. I doubt they'll manage to get enough ork boyz to ~~die~~ play for them.

**Sigvatr**

Melissia wrote:
unmercifulconker wrote:
Ultimately its not their fault for the number issues.
Actually... yes, it is. If they refuse to balance the game and make it so that one faction is always both more numerous AND stronger than all the others, it is entirely the developers' fault. It's THEIR game, how it's implemented is THEIR decision.

I liked how LotR handled this. They gave humans superior stats to make them more numerous and it worked, but to a very sensible degree.

**blood lance**

This sounds bad and will be bad. Too much "DLC" in it for me. Of course a GW game would be the one to do what the game "DLC quest feared" EA could take notes on this.

Also,

Earn the right by giving us your money, to customize your builds in a deep progression system drawing on the rich Warhammer 40,000 universe.

Thought I'd correct this for what it obviously will be.

**Wolfnid420**

I never thought pay to play could be worth it, however this, this i could get down on. Seriously this has all the potential to be exactly what ive imagined for a game like this for a long time.

Give me an eldar long rifle and some form of stealth tech and let me wreak havoc with headshots all day long! At least, untill they come out with Tau, and i can jump around in a stealthsuit or tell a bunch of sniper drones where to shoot.

I dont wanna be more excited than skeptical...but its hard lol

**nomotog**

I kind of like the ork boy idea. I don't think it will end up working, but I like the idea of having really divergent power levels where you need to get a gang of boys in order to take on a SM. I don't think you should use that as your montization plan.

**Dakkamite**

Hoping for more MMO (Planetstrike) and less MMORPG (World of Warcraft)

Otherwise that epic battle for the planet they mention is gonna be 90% Warbosses and Librarians and gak, and no actual soldiers...

Edit: Just read that pay2spacemarine gak above. Thats really awful. Like, I wanna be Orks, but theres no way I'm going to willingly play ten year olds with uber-powerful space marines that they just bought.

If they're going to have paid content, why not just make Imperial Guardsmen the level one of the Imperial faction, and let everyone purchase upgraded characters?

Or better yet, feth free to play and earn your money selling the damn game. As the first real decision I've seen from the questionable developer of this game, I gotta say I'm not impressed at all.

**AWesker1976**

Just remember there's at least 2 years before the game can even think about being ready for play. Lots will change before then.

I'm looking for 2 things as of right now :

1) Free to play, but NOT pay to win type system. (cash shop for trinkets/skins/things that don't affect how the game is played are ok to me)
2) Vehicle combat (bikes/tanks/walkers - but no fliers)

To be honest, I'm not going to give this game any real consideration until it hits beta tests. That'll help lessen the blow if this game never sees the light of day.

**Squidbot**

I am, on the one hand, foaming at the mouth for this, as I've been an avid MMO player since UO, and obviously love the 40K universe.
On the other hand Behaviour Interactive have no history that impresses me, and the MMOs Miguel Caron has previously worked on have never been really great (Well, AO was pretty good but that was a looong time ago).
I'll likely be all over this though.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also; I can see this becoming pay to win if GW get too involved. Fortunately Warhammer online never went that route.

**Laughing Man**

True. Warhammer Online failed for it's own reasons. So at least they're shooting themselves in the foot originally here.

**Sigvatr**

Warhammer Online should have gotten F2P a LONG time ago. It would have meant a considerable financial success and would have had good synergy effects with the brand overall.

In the end, EA failed it. Surprise, EA Sucks.

**Melissia**

Sigvatr wrote:
Warhammer Online should have gotten F2P a LONG time ago. It would have meant a considerable financial success and would have had good synergy effects with the brand overall.

In the end, EA failed it. Surprise, EA Sucks.

What, you mean the company that has 400+ dollars worth of DLC for the Sims 3 (half of which is just copy-pasted from the previous Sims games) sucks?

**Sigvatr**

Melissia wrote:
Sigvatr wrote:
Warhammer Online should have gotten F2P a LONG time ago. It would have meant a considerable financial success and would have had good synergy effects with the brand overall.

In the end, EA failed it. Surprise, EA Sucks.
What, you mean the company that has 400+ dollars worth of DLC for the Sims 3 (half of which is just copy-pasted from the previous Sims games) sucks?

Surprising, eh?

Fun fact for you, though you most likely know it already: did you know that in Sims 3, women were forced to stay home if your family got a child? My fiancee stumbled upon that when she played it back then. Can't even work if you got a "Work at home" job.

**KalashnikovMarine**

I am down for this, even as an Ork, though I suspect the vent servers for Ork forces are going to be the most annoying things in the history of transmitted human conversation that doesn't involve Dane Cook or the White House.

Eldar would be cool. Chaos would be cool too.

Marines can eat it.

**Melissia**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I am down for this, even as an Ork, though I suspect the vent servers for Ork forces are going to be the most annoying things in the history of transmitted human conversation that doesn't involve Dane Cook or the White House.

Eldar would be cool. Chaos would be cool too.

Marines can eat it.

The only forces you'll ahve for Chaos are marines, so.... you're stuck with Eldar and Orks, then.

**BrotherVord**

Ork boys are, by design, a demo into the game for new players...people who want to pay but also want to keep being orks can upgrade into the nob and war boss categories. This is stated in one of the interviews posted.

People need to read.

**Cheesecat**

Melissia wrote:
I can't wait to hear the endless whining of players who WANT to play marines but can't because they're trying to enforce the 5:1 ratio of Orks:Marines.

Why not allow the players to play as nobz instead of boyz aren't nobz supposed to be similar in power level to a space marine?

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Melissia wrote:
Cheesecat wrote:
Melissia wrote:
On the contrary, I'm downplaying it based off of the fact that only a single faction allows you to play as a female character. If you could at least play as a human (guardsman? inquisitorial acolyte? psyker? commissar? sergeant with his squad? techpriest? anything?) it'd be okay, but nope, only Imperial representation amongst players is spehss mureenz, so meh, I'll probably skip it unless it turns out to be amazing and groundbreakingly new (which it won't).

I don't know if you could realistically create an imperial that is as dangerous as an ork, space marine or eldar balance wise.
Sure you could.

A techpriest with hi-tech weaponry, combat mechadendrites, and dragonskin (their power armor) could easily do it.

A psyker, some of whom in the lore can be powerful enough to rip Space Marines apart like their armor is made of cheap aluminum and who it's possible to implement in a variety of ways.

A sister of battle, who are in-lore considered the equals of the Astartes in combat, and who wield nasty short ranged weaponry and can be given unique gameplay features through Acts of Faith.

A sergeant, whose squad reduces the damage they take and increases their firepower as well as providing more tactical options by ordering them around, with the sergeant themselves wielding a special or heavy weapon. This one is the only one that might be hard to implement in an FPS genre.

Various high-ranking Inquisitorial acolytes, whom are exceptional human beings that are very well equipped, and many of which are capable of accomplishing things which might impress an Astartes (Amberley Vail's squad was raiding genestealer nests in one of the Cain books, for example).

It's not exactly hard to implement a human character who is capable of keeping up with an Astartes character. Astartes aren't some kind of unbeatable god on the battlefield.

Alright, alright you're right.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Melissia wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:
I am down for this, even as an Ork, though I suspect the vent servers for Ork forces are going to be the most annoying things in the history of transmitted human conversation that doesn't involve Dane Cook or the White House.

Eldar would be cool. Chaos would be cool too.

Marines can eat it.
The only forces you'll ahve for Chaos are marines, so.... you're stuck with Eldar and Orks, then.

I'm fine with Marines: Spiky Edition

but I think if I buy an upgrade it'll be Eldar unless they release Sisters or some other Imperial faction I like. DA is okay, but kinda "meh" you know?

**Melissia**

Cheesecat wrote:
Melissia wrote:
I can't wait to hear the endless whining of players who WANT to play marines but can't because they're trying to enforce the 5:1 ratio of Orks:Marines.

Why not allow the players to play as nobz instead of boyz aren't nobz supposed to be similar in power level to a space marine?

Only players who pay will be able to play nobz. F2P players will be stuck as Boyz.