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So I very recently started this fine hobby, I went out and bought the Dark Vengeance box set (guessing a lot of new people do that) and after considering both armies I decided with the Dark Angels.

Now loving the models in the box set and thinking they're a great deal, my question is if I get another box set can I put all the models into one army?

Can I have two of the same dark angels tactical squads and terminator squads?

If not how else would I start expanding my newly formed army?

Thanks.

as a dark angel player a secound set of dark vengeance is great if you want to got for a mono list and not pure terminator or biker army ^^ the only thing you be avaible to use twice for this set is the Hq's you are max allowed two at games below 2k.

:Edit. Also Welcome to DakkaDakka!

You should start by buying the codex. Thats needed, to play the army to its fullest, not just with the models from DV set.

Instead of buying a new set, you can try to find someone that has bought the set, and wants to play Chaos Space marines instead.. And you can simply switch models.

In the codex, you can read, and see everything you can have in the army. As for having two tactical squads, and terminator squads, thats perfectly legal..

Thanks guys, I didn't think I'd be able to use the same HQ's, I thought I might not be able to use the Tactical and Terminator squads because they are "Squad Raphael" and "Squad Barachiel".

But I'm just guessing the names are for Dark Vengeance fluff and they're just counted as no named Sergeants?

Edit: Also is the Dark Vengeance Tactical Squad the same one as the "Space Marine Tactical Squad" set that GW sell on their site?

They're no name. The Termi squad is pretty good, it could use a TH/SS model or two but we'd be so lucky. The tactical squad loadouts wouldn't be my go to choice but you can always put the cannons in dev squads and a plasma marine doesn't go amiss here and there.
GL with your Angels.

FastSniperfox wrote:
Edit: Also is the Dark Vengeance Tactical Squad the same one as the "Space Marine Tactical Squad" set that GW sell on their site?

The models are not the same, but you can use them in your Dark Angels army.

The Space Marine Tactical Squad on Games Workshop's website is not Dark Angels-specific; it can be used with virtually every Space Marine army, except Grey Knights and Chaos. (the former is because of the Grey Knights' specialist equipment which nearly every model in their army has, the latter because Chaos Marines have tons of spiky parts which aren't included in the SM Tactical Squad)

It should be noted, if you're a newcomer to miniatures wargaming, that most plastic kits - and most metal or resin kits too - aren't as easy or quick to assemble as the Dark Vengeance models are. The upside is that, because they come in more pieces, they can be posed differently and even modified beyond what comes in the box (particularly for Space Marines, as virtually all plastic Space Marine infantry kits are reasonably compatible with each other, outside of the starter sets like Dark Vengeance).

Thanks a lot for all the help guys, it just confuses me a little how the Dark Vengeance squads aren't able to be bought by themselves in the DA section on the GW site.

But I'm guessing a lot will be cleared up once I buy my codex.

Thanks again guys.

Edit: So when you buy the normal space marine kits you have to modify them into which ever chapter you want where as Dark Vengeance they already are Dark Angels?

FastSniperfox wrote:
Edit: So when you buy the normal space marine kits you have to modify them into which ever chapter you want where as Dark Vengeance they already are Dark Angels?

It's all in the paint job - though you CAN add Dark Angels bits to them if you want.

I suppose it won't hurt to post the following, this is how what you get in the Dark Vengeance box fits into a normal army:

Master: HQ
Librarian: HQ
Terminator Squad: Elites
Tactical Squad: Troops
Ravenwing Squad: Fast Attack

Flick through the rulebook for the "Force Organisation Chart" and you'll see how you go about picking an army from the Codex, once you have it.

FastSniperfox wrote:

Edit: So when you buy the normal space marine kits you have to modify them into which ever chapter you want where as Dark Vengeance they already are Dark Angels?

Short answer, yes.

However, if you want Dark Angels, take a look at the dark angels sets here: Linky to GW page

Dark Angels have a number of unique kits that you won't find (or even be able to use) with standard space marines. Scroll through the HW, elites, fast attack, and other tabs to see the different units.

I strongly suggest you get the Dark Angels Codex first and get an idea of what you'd want to play.

You can buy the standard space marine kits and get some of the Dark Angel upgrades: Upgrade frame or Ravenwing upgrade kit, and dark angels shoulder pads to add more modeling variety.

Take your time. Decide what you like. Get a unit or 2 at a time.

Have fun and welcome to the hobby!

FastSniperfox wrote:So I very recently started this fine hobby, I went out and bought the Dark Vengeance box set (guessing a lot of new people do that) and after considering both armies I decided with the Dark Angels.

Now loving the models in the box set and thinking they're a great deal, my question is if I get another box set can I put all the models into one army?

Can I have two of the same dark angels tactical squads and terminator squads?

If not how else would I start expanding my newly formed army?

Thanks.

So, I don't mean to be demeaning, but it seems like you're pretty new to this kind of a war game, right? If you've already played a game like 40k before (like Malifaux or Infinity, etc.), then ignore everything I'm about to say. If this is all pretty new to you, let me go over the basics first.

So, each of those miniatures you have is one example of an abstract something. For example, those models you have holding bolters can be used to represent ANY space marine in power armor holding onto a bolter. As such, if you have some bike models from two different boxes sets, the bike models aren't "different", but are, instead, completely interchangeable. So, if you have three bike models from one dark vengeance kit, and three bike models from another, you can use them as a single 6-bike squad, or you can mix and match the models between two 3-bike squads to your heart's content. Likewise, if you have 10 terminators (from two Dark Vengeance sets), you could run them as two separate squads, or one large, 10-man squad.

As such, because the models are more or less a commodity (unless they happen to represent special wargear) if what you want is more terminator, bike, and tac squad models, then go ahead and buy a second box.

Now, the interesting thing is, though, that Dark Angels also have access to a bunch of other units other than just the ones you get in Dark Vengeance. These come in their own boxes that you buy separate from the main bundle deal. For example, Dark Vengeance doesn't come with any Land Speeders (a type of vehicle), but if you want one of those in your army, then just grab a Land Speeder box, and you can add it to your existing Dark Angel's army. Also, they sell things like bikes and terminators separately as well, so if you want more of those, you don't have to buy another entire Dark Vengeance set just to get them.

But with all of these options, what do you take? Well, as others have been mentioning, each army has something called a codex, which is a separate book that gives you all the special rules for your army. That is definitely something you should look into getting very, very soon.

The Dark Angels codex will tell you a lot of detailed information you don't currently have, like how much each miniature costs (in points), and what kind of optional weapons and wargear you can give them. It will also tell you information about the units (for example, it will tell you that you can take terminators in groups of 5, but not in groups of 1-4), plus a bunch of special rules unique to your army. There's a lot of stuff there, so you're probably going to spend a bit of time reading and cross-referencing the rulebook. Once you get the hang of your army, though, it's not nearly so bad.

Once you have this at your disposal, you can start coming up with army lists. These are where you pool together miniatures you want in certain combinations in such a way where their cost in points comes to a pre-set maximum (depending on what you and your opponent agree on). You can go to the army list forum for help with this, but there are a lot of options available to you, and a lot of possible combinations. In the end, how you put together your minis into an army that you field is up to you.

When you have a decent enough grasp of the rules and of Dark Angels in specific, and have enough models that belong to the Dark Angels army to be able to play a game, then it's really just time to start playing. Find a local gaming store and see if they have a 40k night. It shouldn't be too hard to find someone who is willing to show you how to play the game.

And then, of course, as you've already discovered, you can ask people for help here. There are plenty of irredeemable internet addicts out there who can help answer any questions you have.

And, as others have said, welcome to 40k, and welcome to dakka.