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2013/06/17 14:11:38
Subject: Iyanden Eldar 1850
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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This the first Eldar list I have ever made. Be gentle.
This is from the new Codex : Eldar. I don't have the Iyanden supplement, but if anyone does and notices that I'm making a glaring error please tell me.
HQ :
Spiritseer (70 pts)
Troops :
20 Guardians + 2 Star Cannons (220 pts)
5 Wraithguard (Wraithcannons) & Wave Serpent + TL Bright Lances (280 points)
5 Wraithguard (Wraithcannons) & Wave Serpent + TL Bright Lances (280 points)
5 Wraithguard (Wraithcannons) & Wave Serpent + TL Bright Lances (280 points)
Fast Attack :
Crimson Hunter + 2x Bright Lances (160 points)
Heavy Support :
WraithLord + Ghostglaive, 2xStarcannons (165 points)
WraithLord + Ghostglaive, 2xStarcannons (165 points)
WraithLord + Ghostglaive, 2xStarcannons (165 points)
Fortification :
Aegis Defense Line (50 points)
Total = 1835
Spiritseer joins the guardians and sit behind the ADL. Crimsion Hunter is there to produce air superiority. Wave serpents make an AV12 wall, push forward quickly and drop off the Wraithguard. Wraith lords advance behind the wave serpents and support the wraithguard. First priority for wraithguard will be monstrous creatures (distort weaopns), second priority will be any TEQ. Wraithlords llike to shoot and smash troops, but only after any monster hunters are dealt with.
Here's a $ price for this army based on GW MSRP.
1 Spiritseer ($19.25)
2 boxes of Guardians ($72.50)
3 boxes of Wraithguard ($150.00)
3 Wave Serpents ($138.50)
1 Crimson Hunter ($65.00)
3 Wraithlords ($138.75)
Add about $40 for magnets, basing material and stuff to scratch build an Eldar ADL, and the total is around $624.00. Not bad actually. An 1850 space marine army will cost about twice that.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2013/06/17 14:48:02
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Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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2013/06/17 15:03:20
Subject: Iyanden Eldar 1850
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Solahma
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I've read scatter/starcannon WL's are best.
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2013/06/17 15:13:07
Subject: Iyanden Eldar 1850
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Do you mean one of each? One scatterlaser and one starcannon? I guess that makes sense. The scatter laser rolls more dice but the starcannon is AP3.
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Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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2013/06/17 15:13:33
Subject: Iyanden Eldar 1850
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Regular Dakkanaut
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scatter lasers on wave serpents for laser lock?
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2013/06/17 15:14:39
Subject: Iyanden Eldar 1850
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Solahma
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Plus laser lock.
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Ninja'd.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/06/17 15:14:53
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2013/06/17 15:15:46
Subject: Iyanden Eldar 1850
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Do you mean one of each? One scatterlaser and one starcannon? I guess that makes sense. The scatter laser rolls more dice but the starcannon is AP3 so the combo should make you more multi-purpose.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2013/06/17 15:16:44
2500 pts
Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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2013/06/17 15:16:21
Subject: Iyanden Eldar 1850
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Hordes will give you some issues, but you are VERY good at dealing with armor and TEQ...that's for sure.
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But Ork blobs would give this army some issues.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/06/17 15:16:36
 Farseer Faenyin
 7,100 pts Yme-Loc Eldar(Apoc Included) / 5,700 pts (Non-Apoc)
Record for 6th Edition- Eldar: 25-4-2
Record for 7th Edition -
Eldar: 0-0-0 (Yes, I feel it is that bad)
Battlefleet Gothic: 2,750 pts of Craftworld Eldar
X-wing(Focusing on Imperials): CR90, 6 TIE Fighters, 4 TIE Interceptors, TIE Bomber, TIE Advanced, 4 X-wings, 3 A-wings, 3 B-wings, Y-wing, Z-95
Battletech: Battlion and Command Lance of 3025 Mechs(painted as 21st Rim Worlds) |
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2013/06/17 15:18:14
Subject: Iyanden Eldar 1850
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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 Farseer Faenyin wrote:Hordes will give you some issues, but you are VERY good at dealing with armor and TEQ...that's for sure.
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But Ork blobs would give this army some issues.
I had noticed that too. I was thinking about upgrading to D-scythes for template + wall of death shenanigans, but I don't think that would fix the issue. Do you have a suggestion?
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Ok...Here's the update. Removed some brightlances in favor of scatter lasers for better horde control.
HQ :
Spiritseer (70 pts)
Troops :
20 Guardians + 2 Bright Lances (220 pts)
5 Wraithguard (Wraithcannons) & Wave Serpent + TL Scatter Lasers (280 points)
5 Wraithguard (Wraithcannons) & Wave Serpent + TL Scatter Lasers (280 points)
5 Wraithguard (Wraithcannons) & Wave Serpent + TL Scatter Lasers (280 points)
Fast Attack :
Crimson Hunter + 2x Bright Lances (160 points)
Heavy Support :
WraithLord + Ghostglaive, Starcannon and Scatter Laser (165 points)
WraithLord + Ghostglaive, Starcannon and Scatter Laser (165 points)
WraithLord + Ghostglaive, Starcannon and Scatter Laser (165 points)
Fortification :
Aegis Defense Line (50 points)
Total = 1835
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2013/06/17 15:30:05
2500 pts
Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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2013/06/17 16:26:23
Subject: Iyanden Eldar 1850
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I know the theme here is iyanden/wraith, but fire prisms will probably be more point efficient than wraithlords, esp for the large blast against any horde army (IG blobs, orks?)
I've been thinking about lists along this same vein.
The wraithguard units I've been considering bring wave serpents with the cannon on the bottom and holo fields (for 300pts each instead of your 280)
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2013/06/17 16:29:09
Subject: Iyanden Eldar 1850
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Some D-scythe upgrades would help wall out some hordes, I would recommend trying to fit at least one squad with the upgrade so you can somewhat control the battlefield.
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7,100 pts Yme-Loc Eldar(Apoc Included) / 5,700 pts (Non-Apoc)
Record for 6th Edition- Eldar: 25-4-2
Record for 7th Edition -
Eldar: 0-0-0 (Yes, I feel it is that bad)
Battlefleet Gothic: 2,750 pts of Craftworld Eldar
X-wing(Focusing on Imperials): CR90, 6 TIE Fighters, 4 TIE Interceptors, TIE Bomber, TIE Advanced, 4 X-wings, 3 A-wings, 3 B-wings, Y-wing, Z-95
Battletech: Battlion and Command Lance of 3025 Mechs(painted as 21st Rim Worlds) |
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2013/06/17 19:19:15
Subject: Iyanden Eldar 1850
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Farseer Faenyin wrote:Some D-scythe upgrades would help wall out some hordes, I would recommend trying to fit at least one squad with the upgrade so you can somewhat control the battlefield.
Costs 50 points per unit, so I'd need to lose something. What would that be? Maybe drop one wave serpent? Or some guardians?
Also...how do you model the D-Scythes? Do they look like the wraithcannon?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/06/17 19:20:15
2500 pts
Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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2013/06/19 15:29:19
Subject: Iyanden Eldar 1850
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Solahma
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